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Eric

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Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Did Salk and Sabine invent vaccines in the first place?
All they did was to expand the work of others on vaccination/immunization and apply it to one disease called polio.
So, is vaccination per se as a means of immunization their unique idea?
No, ancient ayurveda and in modern times Pasteur are the originators of the method of vaccination.
Polio vaccine is a failure in many ways as shown above.
There are dozens of vaccines developed for deadly diseases but vaccination has its limitations and drawbacks as posted in many posts above.
Salk and Sabin invented the polio vaccine. If it were that simple, why didn't one of your fake yogis do it first?

You have offered no proof that Salk and Sabin sole the polio vaccine from anyone.

Now, why don't you devote your upcoming education and research to cleaning up the cesspool around you, and stop denigrating the accomplishments of others.
Eric

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Jul 23, 2013
 
sorry stole

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Jul 23, 2013
 
Eric wrote:
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You have offered no proof that Salk and Sabin stole the polio vaccine from anyone.
Inbred Idiot,

You failed to get the meaning of my post.

I repeat:

Were Salk and Sabine the inventors of vaccine theory/practice? No.

So, what did they do?

They simply borrowed the idea and practice of vaccination from the inventors of immunization and from those working in the said field and found a way to control polio.

They did not invent vaccination theory or practice.

Anyway, their polio vaccine is a failure in many ways and the real causes of polio in large measure is not the virus itself but lie elsewhere.

In general, where the science of immunization/vaccination goes, the real credit of coming up with the idea and practice of vaccines for a host of deadly diseases should go to the brilliant doctors of anceint ayurveda and in modern times to Louis Pasteur.

Dozens of scientists have developed dozens of vaccines for many deadly diseases and there's a growing body of evidence to show that vaccines harm more than they help.
Eric

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Inbred Idiot,
You failed to get the meaning of my post.
I repeat:
Were Salk and Sabine the inventors of vaccine theory/practice? No.
So, what did they do?
They simply borrowed the idea and practice of vaccination from the inventors of immunization and from those working in the said field and found a way to control polio.
They did not invent vaccination theory or practice.
Anyway, their polio vaccine is a failure in many ways and the real causes of polio in large measure is not the virus itself but lie elsewhere.
In general, where the science of immunization/vaccination goes, the real credit of coming up with the idea and practice of vaccines for a host of deadly diseases should go to the brilliant doctors of anceint ayurveda and in modern times to Louis Pasteur.
Dozens of scientists have developed dozens of vaccines for many deadly diseases and there's a growing body of evidence to show that vaccines harm more than they help.
And, none of them stole the vaccine from anyone either. What were Salk and Sabin supposed to do? Let science stagnate at the end of the 19th Century and let people die?

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Jul 23, 2013
 
Nations that require more vaccine doses tend to have higher infant mortality rates.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3...

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#56288
Jul 23, 2013
 
Yawn.

Hugh,

I'm terribly horny.

Psst, I've just measured my beautiful pink tool in cm and want you to convert that into inches using basic math.

Where are you, cruff?

Calling on departed spirits using your Ouija board?

(grins)

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Jul 23, 2013
 
Bye, Cruffs.

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Blowing smoke as usual.
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Really, which one was effective on polio? Remember we were talking of polio.
If Ayurveda was effective against polio, how come so many Indians fell prey to the disease?
Polio was on the decline before the vaccines were introduced and spiked again after introduction.
Proof that vaccines work, none.
Proof that vaccines are safe, none.

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Polio was on the decline before the vaccines were introduced and spiked again after introduction.
Proof that vaccines work, none.
Proof that vaccines are safe, none.
Show me the money. Provide a link to research on this issue. I wouldnt want to think you are as FOS as Yoda.
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Show me the money. Provide a link to research on this issue. I wouldnt want to think you are as FOS as Yoda.
[United States and England]
According to VACCINES Are They Really Safe
& Effective? by Neil Z. Miller,
"From 1923 to 1953,before the Salk killed-
virus vaccine was introduced, the polio
death rate in the United States and England
had already declined on its own by 47
percent and 55 percent, respectively. Source
International Mortality Statistics (1981) by
Michael Alderson."
See page 16.

http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm

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Frijoles wrote:
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Yes, the zombies were all over the news here.
Ever see "The Omega Man"? Much better than "I am Legend" IMO, though I never saw the original, "Last Man on Earth".
'I Am Legend' the movie with the alternate ending (not the crappy theatrical ending) was closest to the Matheson novel of the same name. In the book, the monsters were vampires created by a global pandemic.

In the novel Robert Neville finally realize the HE was the legend (the stuff of nightmares)to the vampires and their children because he killed them. However, instead of trying to cure the vampires in the novel, he used his medical expertise to come up with more efficient ways of killing them.
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Yawn.
Hugh,
I'm terribly horny.
Psst, I've just measured my beautiful pink tool in cm and want you to convert that into inches using basic math.
Where are you, cruff?
Calling on departed spirits using your Ouija board?
(grins)
1. I am here , dear.

2. Your 4cm= 1.5 inches. Do stretching exercises.

3. Th O board is more like your thing.

4. Check Eric and papa/Frijoles for the quenching of your thirst. Send them tickets as they cannot afford it.
HughBe

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
1) Sanitation is an even bigger problem than lack of water - with 2.5 billion people worldwide suffering from lack of a good enough toilet or latrine.
2) Human waste is full of dangerous bacteria that can cause diseases like cholera, typhoid, infectious hepatitis, polio, cryptosporidiosis, and ascariasis. When waste is not properly managed, it can come into contact with skin, water, insects and other things that ultimately transfer the bacteria back into the human body where it can make people sick.
http://www.globalcitizen.org/Content/Content....
Highlight the human waste part to Frijoles and Eric as it is in their interest to know given their nasty habits.
HughBe

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Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH,
Hey A-Level Math nerd,
When are you going to solve that simple problem on the monkey and the pole?
It's so easy to solve and can be done mentally in seconds.
(smiles in advance)
get your mind off poles and in particular BLACK poles.
HughBe

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH,
How often do you masturbate these days, old mon?
(ha ha ha)
Perhaps 8 times a month.
HughBe

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Eric wrote:
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
I am a lady ONLY in your world. In the normal world I am a man, sweetie.
Eric

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I am a lady ONLY in your world. In the normal world I am a man, sweetie.
Could've fooled me

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Voluntarist wrote:
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[United States and England]
According to VACCINES Are They Really Safe
& Effective? by Neil Z. Miller,
"From 1923 to 1953,before the Salk killed-
virus vaccine was introduced, the polio
death rate in the United States and England
had already declined on its own by 47
percent and 55 percent, respectively. Source
International Mortality Statistics (1981) by
Michael Alderson."
See page 16.
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm
thats a book, not published research. Do you know the difference?

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Voluntarist wrote:
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[United States and England]
According to VACCINES Are They Really Safe
& Effective? by Neil Z. Miller,
"From 1923 to 1953,before the Salk killed-
virus vaccine was introduced, the polio
death rate in the United States and England
had already declined on its own by 47
percent and 55 percent, respectively. Source
International Mortality Statistics (1981) by
Michael Alderson."
See page 16.
http://www.vaclib.org/basic/polio.htm
The issue here is NOT what the baseline decline rate was. The issue is whether vaccines cause a decrease or not.

All that stat does is highlight the control part of a study. Show me the research that says treatment does not result in a decline. Then I will be impressed.

And book summaries are not proper sources of data. Actual research is.

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