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Gtown71

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As usual, you have created a caricature of what evolution actually says and pretend that you have shown it false. Sadly, all that you really do in such circumstances is demonstrate you ignorance of science.
The saddest part is that evolution and believe in a Deity are not mutually exclusive. The only thing that evolution proves is that a literal belief in the creation myths of Genesis are no longer realistic.
I truly don't care how stupid you think I am, in which I will agree that I'm not very smart on evolution, but I know enough to know, that evolution as most know it, and is taught in school, is about long ago and far far away, this and that happened, and folks like you believe it. Yet as far fetched as that is, you refuse to believe God created all things. He even created man (which creates all that is seen) nothing has ever been seen evolving. Not one monkey has turned into a man.

Evolution has not showed the creation story to be false at all.
Maybe you would like to explain where we all started and how we became who we are?

We have a soul
We are physical -spirit -soul.

People want to build their own god, and many have gave into the evolution theory, and tried to make the bible "fit " what it says.

Even when I was lost and thought God was a myth, I still never bought the millions or billions of years story.

It is kinda amazing what has took place in just the last 100 years or so.
It must have took billions of years, before we kicked in?

The smart scientist were concerned about the moon landing in the 60's.
the had fiquered maybe 6 feet of moon dust, after the fiquered how old the moon was. This is why He took such a "LEAP " off the ladder. Turns out, there was only a couple inches of dust.
Kinda like a moon that was only a few thousand years old.

Yet, when people tell you this, you will find a way to explain it away, in your evolutionary puzzle.

It's no wonder soo many people act like animals, since they're being taught that they are one.

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How can one statement be so wrong in so many different ways. Let me count the ways...
1. To the best of my knowledge, no evolutionary scientist has ever said that people evolved from rocks. If you have citations supporting that statement, now would be a good time to provide them.
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not that there is anything wrong with that......

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former res wrote:
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I like it!
Instead of swapping bodily fluids, we swap our invaluable opinions and pithy comments.
Good stuff!
and we keep coming back for MORE even if we do not really like the person..

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Jan 16, 2013
 
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No shortage of fringe lunatics.
As far as I am concerned, all Voluntoid has demonstrated, is that once again, why I shouldnt never live in Texas.

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Evolution has not showed the creation story to be false at all.
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Kind of correct.

Geology and Earth Science and Paleoecology (and probably Genetics) have showed that the (details of) creation story is false.

Evolution doesnt really get directly into the details of the creation story, rather, it proposes another mechanism altogether, with evidence to support it.

Evolution is an example of a theory, not a scientific discipline. You are proposing a straw argument.
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I love Jamaican Blue Mountain Bean Coffee. Wifey gets it each xmas for me.
Actually it is regarded as the best in the world. It is good for you and "wifey" knows best.
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former res wrote:
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A plan to have a plan is no plan at all.
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Why some Jamaicans do and some don't?
Is it due to your high social status?
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I am certain you are very clean.
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You work the mention of your god in at every opportunity.
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I'm blushing.
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Female, of course.
Former--A plan to have a plan is no plan at all.

HughBe--- eloquent

Former--Do you say "Mon" at the end of each sentence?
Just curious.

HughBe-- I understand the reason for the question because we have NEVER corresponded and so the question is appropriate. Well I don't use the word.

Former--Why some Jamaicans do and some don't?
Is it due to your high social status?

HughBe--- It is a function of culture or sub-culture

Former--I am certain you are very clean.

HughBE-- Correct and in HEART as well.

Former--You work the mention of your god in at every opportunity.

HughBe --- I love to speak about myself.

Former--Missed me?

HughBe--- Seriously YES. I tend to be sentimental and I now know you and understand you and like you too.

Former--I'm blushing.

HughBe--- you need to get some of my polish to tone it down.

HughBe--- It is never too late to express good things. Happy New Year to you too and truly the very best for 2013 including getting a shiny creature to convert you and to sit on your mouth.

Former--Female, of course.

HughBe--- Any other sex would be reinforcement.
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Red Stripe Mon wrote:
Jamaica is not only good for Blue Mountain Coffee, jerk chicken, and ghanga. But they have a ban on buggery too.
Ya Mon, no buggery here mon!
Red---hey have a ban on buggery too.
Ya Mon, no buggery here mon!

HughBe---Correction, no buggery THERE. Yes indeed the law says no BB.
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Jan 16, 2013
 
later. This was just an early morning stroll.

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Actually it is regarded as the best in the world. It is good for you and "wifey" knows best.
you should know. you are probably the guy who picks the beans.
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and we keep coming back for MORE even if we do not really like the person..
Focus on the message and NOT the person. Ask yourself these questions. Are the things said TRUE? Are the things said FALSE? Then you decide whether or not you want to embrace that which is FALSE or TRUE.

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HughBe wrote:
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Focus on the message and NOT the person. Ask yourself these questions. Are the things said TRUE? Are the things said FALSE? Then you decide whether or not you want to embrace that which is FALSE or TRUE.
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Nope. Not all of us are here because they are on a religious crusade. In fact, you can usually figure out quickly who isnt, we tend to be the rational ones.

Furthermore, the reason people keep coming back is more related to a desire to see themselves time and time again in print, than to care what the others really say, IMO

Can you focus on THAT message?
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HughBe wrote:
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Former--Why some Jamaicans do and some don't?
Is it due to your high social status?
HughBe--- It is a function of culture or sub-culture
Which are you?

Cultural or sub-cultural?

You are from a culture that does not say "mon"?

Though many of your fellow citizens do??
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Former--I am certain you are very clean.
HughBE-- Correct and in HEART as well.
I hope your coronay arteries are clean, clear and patent.

Free-flowing, that is.

BTW, what makes a Huggybear tick?
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Former--You work the mention of your god in at every opportunity.
HughBe --- I love to speak about myself.
You call yourself God?

Rule #1: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Sit in the corner for 10 minutes please.

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Gtown71 wrote:
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Whatever you call it, there are two stories to how we got here.
1. GOD CREATED ALL THINGS, including evil, becouse without it -free will wouldn't be possible.
2. Millions of years rocks, animals, man.
Which noone has seen evolution. You can breed two animals, "pink one and a blue one " of THE SAME KIND, and get a variation of the animal. Plus humans do this "black man -white girl -you get a mixed human, but you can't breed a fish with a bird.
It does take faith, to believe in God, that's how He set it up.
Me, the old lead guitar player from korn,crissy moran (former pornstar), and many others have had an encounter with God, and "HE " changed our core beliefs.
Willful ignorance on your part. I can lead a horse to water, but...

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Liam R wrote:
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As usual, you have created a caricature of what evolution actually says and pretend that you have shown it false. Sadly, all that you really do in such circumstances is demonstrate you ignorance of science.
The saddest part is that evolution and believe in a Deity are not mutually exclusive. The only thing that evolution proves is that a literal belief in the creation myths of Genesis are no longer realistic.
A straw man argument, for sure. And you are correct, the two are not mutually exclusive. I don't understand why the fundies like to paint themselves into a corner when there's no need to.

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Frijoles wrote:
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not that there is anything wrong with that......
I am starting to think there is a least one person on this forum (maybe more) who did evolve from rocks given their reasoning abilities.
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former res wrote:
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You mean for exercising his right to free speech?
Wow!
Wouldn't that be assault and battery on our British guest?
Fighting words are not protected, that is not the words themselves but in the context of the conversation or statement.

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Kind of correct.
Geology and Earth Science and Paleoecology (and probably Genetics) have showed that the (details of) creation story is false.
Evolution doesnt really get directly into the details of the creation story, rather, it proposes another mechanism altogether, with evidence to support it.
Evolution is an example of a theory, not a scientific discipline. You are proposing a straw argument.
Only correct in that evolution doesn't touch on the topic of creation. Again, that is abiogenesis, a different branch of science.
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What do you care? You don't acknowledge the government, so what do the petty arguments in DC matter to you?
Because its always fun to show hypocrisy in government especially with the current liar in charge.

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Only correct in that evolution doesn't touch on the topic of creation. Again, that is abiogenesis, a different branch of science.
A theory is basicly the highest accolade in the field of science.
It does not get any higher.
Molecular evolution of f.i. the oldest common ancestor/concestor would touch upon abiogenesis. As well as life from rocks, as in google octalite.(How did cell walls develop.)
But the saillant characteristic of the scientific method, would be that a theory stands only untill someone can refute the findings.
Or proof them to be correct. e.g. Einsteins theory could only be proven when we had developed the capacity to bring atomic clocks in orbit. But it stays work in progress because someone might always come up with a different better fitting idea.

Same goes by the way mankind and it's god-idea. That changed so much that someone from the 4th century would not even recognize what f.i. modern christians are on about.

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