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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44599 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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It occurred to me that....
...the fact we have a ideologically committed Christian discussing Jewish theology with an ideologically committed muslim, NEITHER who have any clue or familiarity with the subject at hand due to language, ideology, and cultural divides,...
...is a GOOD ENOUGH reason ALONE for the need for a Jewish homeland for Jews to escape this nonsense.
Clealy the discussion went over your head, as usual.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44600 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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It occurred to me that....
...the fact we have a ideologically committed Christian discussing Jewish theology with an ideologically committed muslim, NEITHER who have any clue or familiarity with the subject at hand due to language, ideology, and cultural divides,...
...is a GOOD ENOUGH reason ALONE for the need for a Jewish homeland for Jews to escape this nonsense.
One more thought. YOU have no commitment or loyalty to America. I could not get YOU to call yourself an American, so why don't you pack your bags and GO, to your homeland?

I am sure that it is your intention to go home, so what is stopping you? Is it that you are too poor to afford the fare?
What

Bedford, MA

#44601 Dec 2, 2012
Nuke 'em
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44602 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Understood. You beg off the question of imperialism.
And as a result you have NO standing to opine regarding the Jewish tie to their homeland.
You need to preach what you practice.
Frijoles---And as a result you have NO standing to opine regarding the Jewish tie to their homeland.

HughBe--- Had I been a Judaite then I would not have had the RIGHT to THINK and to have an opinion. YOU know this from personal experience. YOUR rabbis don't permit you to THINK. They THINK for YOU.

However, I am not a member of your Judaite club and there is NO POWER on earth that can prevent me from having an OPINION on any matter. I mean NO power, no JUDAITE, no country, nobody.

Now, ask for help in understaning the wisdom in my post below.

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MUQ---So, when some one demands title to any land based on the covenant, WE must verify did they complete their part of the covenant or not?

HughBe--- WE who?

MUQ---If they have not fulfilled their part of the covenant, what right they have to demand "Title for the land" based on the covenant?

HughBe--- The covenant is between the covenant makers. It is the AGGRIEVED party to the covenant that will determine whether or not the other party has fulfilled their part of the covenant.

MUQ--I hope you understand the situation here.

HughBe--- Yes, I understand. This is it, parties who are NOT a part of the covenant want to be judge and mediators without being invited to do so.

MUQ--- People are claiming Title for the land without fulfilling ANY of the condition of the Original Covenant.

HughBe--- That is really the concern of the AGGRIEVED party to the covenant. Besides, it is somewhat impossible to fulfill the conditions of the covenant outside of the land.

MUQ---Is their stand justified? Logically, reasonably? Legally? Morally

HughBe--- These are questions that are to be addressed by the AGGRIEVED party, to the covenant.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44603 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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One more thought. YOU have no commitment or loyalty to America. I could not get YOU to call yourself an American, so why don't you pack your bags and GO, to your homeland?
I am sure that it is your intention to go home, so what is stopping you? Is it that you are too poor to afford the fare?
You sound bitter.

Do I threaten you?

Does the practice of my religion threaten you?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44604 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Clealy the discussion went over your head, as usual.
Doesnt change the fact you are being a busybody.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44605 Dec 2, 2012
former res wrote:
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That's a real clown answer.
So if it walks like a clown and talks like a clown, it must be a clown.
Indeed my answer was a clown one but your suggestion about me doing donkeys was WISDOM, your moronic wisdom.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44606 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Indeed my answer was a clown one but your suggestion about me doing donkeys was WISDOM, your moronic wisdom.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdukd8ovsH1...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44607 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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You sound bitter.
Do I threaten you?
Does the practice of my religion threaten you?
YOU refuse to call yourself an AMERICAN. I have history on my side to prove it. So, why don't YOU leave the US and go home?

I am not surprised by your bitter comment but you have to console yourself with BS.

YOU and your kind CANNOT threaten me, if YOU are so foolish to do so I shall respond appropriately.

Your religion is based on LIES it is a THREAT to the Jewish people and their WAY to God and their mental FREEDOM.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44608 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Doesnt change the fact you are being a busybody.
You may recall your comment about me having a discussion with another poster. Now, I am unaware that your cup was turned over, so who is the busybody?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44609 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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One more thought. YOU have no commitment or loyalty to America.
How do you pledge loyalty to a CONTINENT?

Thats as absurd as SamBees notion of Moses being African.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44610 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
FO
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44611 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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.
Your religion is based on LIES it is a THREAT to the Jewish people and their WAY to God and their mental FREEDOM.
I am Jewish. Get used to it. You really have no choice.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44612 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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FO
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdukd8ovsH1...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44613 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Doesnt change the fact you are being a busybody.
"Doesnt change the fact YOU" have no commitment or loyalty to America so why don't you pack your bags and GO, to your homeland?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44614 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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You may recall your comment about me having a discussion with another poster. Now, I am unaware that your cup was turned over, so who is the busybody?
Well lets see.

Could it be because you are denying the heritage of a people you are neither a member of, or have understanding of?

Busybody bus·y·bod·y (b z -b d ). n. pl. bus·y·bod·ies. A person who meddles or pries into the affairs of others
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&ou...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#44615 Dec 2, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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How do you pledge loyalty to a CONTINENT?
Thats as absurd as SamBees notion of Moses being African.
New information for YOU.

You can be loyal to a CONTINENT ask the Europeans. However, the country,America, where you were born is NOT a continent.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44616 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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YOU refuse to call yourself an AMERICAN.
BTW I believe I said I was Yankee. I guess you still havent bothered to read Mark Twain. Keep showing your cultural ignorance, it is amusing.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44617 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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"Doesnt change the fact YOU" have no commitment or loyalty to America so why don't you pack your bags and GO, to your homeland?
again, sounds like I threaten you. I am wondering why.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44618 Dec 2, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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New information for YOU.
You can be loyal to a CONTINENT ask the Europeans..
How is that working out, by the way?

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