Presiding bishop calls congregation t...

Presiding bishop calls congregation to action

There are 141 comments on the www.newbernsj.com story from Apr 16, 2011, titled Presiding bishop calls congregation to action. In it, www.newbernsj.com reports that:

The Episcopal Church has an ongoing and evolving mission that requires a progressive and contemporary attitude, and its presiding bishop came to New Bern on Friday to call the congregation to action.

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

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#1 Apr 17, 2011
from newbernsj:

"'Life is about change, and faithfulness in the Christian way is about change, and thatís not comfortable for many people,' Jefferts Schori said ..."

Are the Christian creeds about "change"?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

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#2 Apr 17, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from newbernsj:
"'Life is about change, and faithfulness in the Christian way is about change, and thatís not comfortable for many people,' Jefferts Schori said ..."
Are the Christian creeds about "change"?
Do you still think blindness is a result of the sins of the father?

Does the sin rotate around the earth?

LOL, what a wasted organ your brain is........

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#3 Apr 17, 2011
sin - sun

although I think not using your brain IS a sin..........

“... truth will out.”

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#4 Apr 17, 2011
MiddleWay wrote:
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Do you still think blindness is a result of the sins of the father?
....
And where exactly is that in the Nicene Creed?

And YOU talk about wasted organs.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#5 Apr 18, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from newbernsj:
"'Life is about change, and faithfulness in the Christian way is about change, and thatís not comfortable for many people,' Jefferts Schori said ..."
Are the Christian creeds about "change"?
Go prayer your anti-Scriptural rosary.

Hypocrite.

GOOD NEWS, joline, that's what's missing in your life..........

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Apr 18, 2011
MiddleWay wrote:
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Go prayer your anti-Scriptural rosary.
Hypocrite ...
Clueless, the Christian Creeds are not mantras, but guidelines for orthodox beliefs.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#7 Apr 18, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Clueless, the Christian Creeds are not mantras, but guidelines for orthodox beliefs.
Hear we go with the 'orthodox' AGAIN!

LMAO!

Get off your creeds and LIVE joline, you can't participate in the Kingdom sitting on your ass..........

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#8 Apr 18, 2011
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>Hear we go with the 'orthodox' AGAIN!
LMAO!
Get off your creeds and LIVE joline, you can't participate in the Kingdom sitting on your ass..........
MW,

He is not sitting on his ass. One cannot sit on his ass after crawling under a rock. Such an environment would necessarily be fairly restricted, preventing anything that is so full of fecal baloney from achieving any sort of upright position.

RK

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#9 Apr 18, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Clueless, the Christian Creeds are not mantras, but guidelines for orthodox beliefs.
"..guidelines for orthodox beliefs."

Clueless? You've got to be kidding me!

Is there nothing real for you? Is everything a matter of simply believing just exactly what you are told to believe, so that you never have to wrestle with the spectre of doubt or the stray fact?

Is heresy therefore a virtual impossibility simply because your perception never strays from the mantra that you say is not a mantra, because someone else said that a "creed" is not a "mantra?"

When did the creed writers all agree that the Earth had changed from flat to a slightly pear-shaped spheroid? And who chose to believe them then? The "orthodoxians?"

What on earth did Christ mean by directing YOU to seek the truth"

RK

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#10 Apr 18, 2011
RevKen wrote:
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"..guidelines for orthodox beliefs."
Clueless? You've got to be kidding me!
Is there nothing real for you? Is everything a matter of simply believing just exactly what you are told to believe, so that you never have to wrestle with the spectre of doubt or the stray fact?
Is heresy therefore a virtual impossibility simply because your perception never strays from the mantra that you say is not a mantra, because someone else said that a "creed" is not a "mantra?"
When did the creed writers all agree that the Earth had changed from flat to a slightly pear-shaped spheroid? And who chose to believe them then? The "orthodoxians?"
What on earth did Christ mean by directing YOU to seek the truth"
RK
Joe, a true son of the Church of Rome speaking about 'orthodox' teaching is a pure example of insanity in action.

How 'orthodox' is the concept of Diva Maria, Queen of Heaven and an Eternal Virgin despite the obvious biblical references to her other children?

How 'orthodox' is the concept of a Living God-King of Vatican City and Bishop of Rome being allowed to speak without error on all matters of faith and morals?

Orthodox, indeed! One wonders what horror the Greek or Russian Orthodox feel when they see you use the term.

“... truth will out.”

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#11 Apr 18, 2011
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>Hear we go with the 'orthodox' AGAIN!
LMAO!
Get off your creeds ...
So what is the point of reciting these creeds every Sunday if they don't mean a damn thing to you?

“... truth will out.”

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#12 Apr 18, 2011
T McCabe wrote:
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Joe, a true son of the Church of Rome ...
Sayeth the disciple of the former Roman Kate Schori.

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#13 Apr 18, 2011
T McCabe wrote:
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Joe, a true son of the Church of Rome speaking about 'orthodox' teaching is a pure example of insanity in action.
How 'orthodox' is the concept of Diva Maria, Queen of Heaven and an Eternal Virgin despite the obvious biblical references to her other children?
How 'orthodox' is the concept of a Living God-King of Vatican City and Bishop of Rome being allowed to speak without error on all matters of faith and morals?
Orthodox, indeed! One wonders what horror the Greek or Russian Orthodox feel when they see you use the term.
Good question.

Well, I read that the last time the Pope (whenever and whoever that was) sent an emissary to meet with the Patriarchs of the Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches, they sent him packing back to Rome sucking his thumb. 1054, I believe. Mostly over whether the Eucharist was to employ leavened or unleavened bread and a couple of other issues, not the least of which was a demand that the Eastern patriarchs were to bow down to the Pope and do whatever he said. The doctrine of papal primacy, infallibility, adopted by the Romans in 1870 didn't help much.

The Eastern Church still serves leavened bread as well as unleavened bread on special occasions. The Roman Church refuses to accept leavened bread as a valid host and it must contain the germ of wheat or it cannot be right. Never mind that it has been discovered that some people are allergic to the point of death to wheat germ just like some are allergic to peanuts.

I guess the only Salvation available for those poor souls is the Baptist Church that serves grape juice and potato chips during recitations of the "New Standardized Revised Annotated and Ecumenical Version." Poor things with their guitars and drum sets.

Melchizedek simply shared bread and wine after blessing both, apparently achieving proper spiritual substantiation without much further ado.

Oh, for those days again! Those were the days before NAMBLA when men were real men and queers were men, too. But, they were able to get over it by trading shields and weaponry and then simply "exceeding" in brotherly love.

Of course, I don't really accuse Melchizadek of or attribute any questionable spiritual antics to him, being that I am a follower of him, myself.

Rev. Ken

“... truth will out.”

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#14 Apr 18, 2011
T McCabe wrote:
Orthodox, indeed! One wonders what horror the Greek or Russian Orthodox feel ...
Then why don't you go to their respective forums and find out for yourself as this is the Topix TEC forum.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

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The Mountain Empire

#15 Apr 19, 2011
RevKen wrote:
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MW,
He is not sitting on his ass. One cannot sit on his ass after crawling under a rock. Such an environment would necessarily be fairly restricted, preventing anything that is so full of fecal baloney from achieving any sort of upright position.
RK
Got it, I give his ass way too much credit..........

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#16 Apr 19, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Then why don't you go to their respective forums and find out for yourself as this is the Topix TEC forum.
But you're not a member of TEC, you're not a member of anything as they are all beneath you.

Start you're own denomination joline, show us the way through your Love*.

LOL!

*Like that'll happen

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#17 Apr 19, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why don't you go to their respective forums and find out for yourself as this is the Topix TEC forum.
I am not the one that is abusing the term 'orthodox'. You are.

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#18 Apr 19, 2011
RevKen wrote:
<quoted text>
Good question.
Well, I read that the last time the Pope (whenever and whoever that was) sent an emissary to meet with the Patriarchs of the Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches, they sent him packing back to Rome sucking his thumb. 1054, I believe. Mostly over whether the Eucharist was to employ leavened or unleavened bread and a couple of other issues, not the least of which was a demand that the Eastern patriarchs were to bow down to the Pope and do whatever he said. The doctrine of papal primacy, infallibility, adopted by the Romans in 1870 didn't help much.
The Eastern Church still serves leavened bread as well as unleavened bread on special occasions. The Roman Church refuses to accept leavened bread as a valid host and it must contain the germ of wheat or it cannot be right. Never mind that it has been discovered that some people are allergic to the point of death to wheat germ just like some are allergic to peanuts.
I guess the only Salvation available for those poor souls is the Baptist Church that serves grape juice and potato chips during recitations of the "New Standardized Revised Annotated and Ecumenical Version." Poor things with their guitars and drum sets.
Melchizedek simply shared bread and wine after blessing both, apparently achieving proper spiritual substantiation without much further ado.
Oh, for those days again! Those were the days before NAMBLA when men were real men and queers were men, too. But, they were able to get over it by trading shields and weaponry and then simply "exceeding" in brotherly love.
Of course, I don't really accuse Melchizadek of or attribute any questionable spiritual antics to him, being that I am a follower of him, myself.
Rev. Ken
I will settle for the simple mysteries found in this creed.

The Nicene Creed

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

“... truth will out.”

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#19 Apr 19, 2011
MiddleWay wrote:
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But you're not a member of TEC ...
Unlike your denomination, Topix is not an exclusive club.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#20 Apr 19, 2011
T McCabe wrote:
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I am not the one that is abusing the term 'orthodox'...
Whatever you think orthodox is, you're not it!

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