Justice For David Camm

Dec 11, 2008 Read more: Topix 8,244
WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR: THE ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE JUSTICE FOR KIM, BRAD & JILL FREEDOM FOR DAVID CAMM THE TRUTH...THE SIMPLE TRUTH On September 28, 2000, Kimberly, Bradley, and Jill Camm were shot to death in the Camm family garage, located in Georgetown, Indiana, just a few miles from Louisville, Kentucky. The Indiana State Police (ISP) responded to the scene, as did the local prosecutor, Stanley Faith, who called for the assistance of a blood stain and crime scene re-constructionist. Three days after the crimes occurred, the husband of Kim and the father of Jill and Brad, David Camm, was arrested. In early 2002 David Camm was convicted of their murders and sentenced to 195 years in the Indiana Department of Corrections. Case solved. Case closed. In August, 2004, the Indiana Court of Appeals overturned Camm's conviction. Camm got a new trial. In November, 2004, Prosecutor Keith Henderson recharged Camm after having a "Fresh Eyes" team re-investigate the crime. Camm was re-charged. In March, 2005, another man, Charles Darnell Boney, was charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Camm was re-charged with Boney. In February, 2006, Boney was convicted and sentenced to 225 years in prison. Camm was convicted in March, 2006, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Case solved. Case closed. Those are the facts of this case. Well, at least a few facts. Most people in the metropolitan area of Louisville are convinced that David Camm is a molester and murderer. They are convinced that Charles Boney helped him in some shape, manner, or form. There are those who know many more facts that are thoroughly convinced of David Camm's innocence and continue to fight for him and his family. Read more
Anonymous

Shawnee, OK

#487 Dec 29, 2009
One of the things that is bugging me is the bloodstain (kim's Blood) found on the outer left edge of David's left tennis shoe. I have not read anywhere from the defense position how this could have occurred? The stain was elliptical in size, very small and it could not have been created by stepping into blood due to its horizontal orientation.
Snowman

Prospect, KY

#488 Dec 29, 2009
Everyone is talking about the infamous sweatshirt. I don't believe that anyone has mentioned that in addition to the stains that were on the sweatshirt, which was found at the scene under Bradley, there was also carpet fiber that was a match to the carpet fiber in David Camm's bedroom. It was a carpet that was unique in fiber content. This leads one to believe that though many are calling Charles Boney a liar, he seems to be telling the truth when he said he wrapped a gun in the sweatshirt and gave it to David. If Boney killed the Camm Family, I find it highly unlikely that he would have been in the bedroom with the sweatshirt. Also, if the garage door was up where the Bronco was parked, as was stated by Camm there is no way in H--- that Rusty the dog would not have entered that garage. Anyone that has a dog knows that even though they might be loose in the neighborhood they will come running when their master returns. I would bet my life that anyone that has a dog will verify this. In fact most dogs know what time their owners are to arrive. If the garage door was up that long after the murders there would have had to been tracks by the dog. In the 1st. trial the Aunt that lives behind the Camm residence tried to cover the subject of the dog. I didn't buy the testimony and am sure the juror's didn't either. If my recollection is correct I don't believe that the question was ever asked of Charles Boney. It would have been interesting to know if he had seen the dog. By the way, one of the Uncles shut the dog in another garage when he arrived on the scene. Something to think about.
Snowman

Prospect, KY

#490 Dec 29, 2009
Anonymous wrote:
One of the things that is bugging me is the bloodstain (kim's Blood) found on the outer left edge of David's left tennis shoe. I have not read anywhere from the defense position how this could have occurred? The stain was elliptical in size, very small and it could not have been created by stepping into blood due to its horizontal orientation.
When you have a clean garage you have no footprints. Hard to imagine when you have all that carnage, you end up with no footprints.
Not only is it hard to imagine, its hard not to believe, that some type of clean-up occurred. The question is WHO cleaned it up?
Just the Facts

Jeffersonville, IN

#491 Dec 29, 2009
Snowman,

You raise an interesting point with the dog. I am not clear on the situation with the dog, maybe someone can clear this up for me. My understanding is that Cam and his Uncle put the dog in the un-attached garage when he got home. If so, the dog was running around loose and had access to the blood yet there were no prints so he evidently, for some reason, did not get into it. If Camm put the dog up earlier when he committed the crime, the dog would not be out and loose when he got home and his Uncle would have to be lying about helping put the dog up. I would be very interested in knowing the chain of events regarding the dog if anyone knows.
Truth is

Prospect, KY

#492 Dec 29, 2009
It's all over the TOP of his shoe and it didn't get there by contact like the innocent believers claim Jill's blood got on his shirt from her hair.
They can't give a good explanation for it being on top of his shoes which is why David Camm will get convicted again
The dude is so guilty
Anonymous wrote:
One of the things that is bugging me is the bloodstain (kim's Blood) found on the outer left edge of David's left tennis shoe. I have not read anywhere from the defense position how this could have occurred? The stain was elliptical in size, very small and it could not have been created by stepping into blood due to its horizontal orientation.
Anonymous

Choctaw, OK

#493 Dec 29, 2009
Truth is wrote:
It's all over the TOP of his shoe and it didn't get there by contact like the innocent believers claim Jill's blood got on his shirt from her hair.
They can't give a good explanation for it being on top of his shoes which is why David Camm will get convicted again
The dude is so guilty
<quoted text>
Thanks, but I wasn't referring to any blood on top of his shoe, but the stain which was found on the side. It's obvious by its shape that it wasn't created by contacted. I was just curious if there is somewhere I may read about the opinion of this from the defense perspective.
Just The Facts

Louisville, KY

#494 Dec 30, 2009
Anonymous

If you haven't already, you may want to try this link:
http://www.beloblog.com/WHAS_Blogs/CammBoney_...

It is a daily blog from the second trial. It is not the total transcript but it gives a pretty good overview of the days testimony.

On Feb 15 Mr Kish testified and on Feb 16 Mr Epstein testified.

I would be interested in your opinon of thier testimony.

Thanks
Anonymous

Choctaw, OK

#495 Dec 30, 2009
Just The Facts wrote:
Anonymous
If you haven't already, you may want to try this link:
http://www.beloblog.com/WHAS_Blogs/CammBoney_...
It is a daily blog from the second trial. It is not the total transcript but it gives a pretty good overview of the days testimony.
On Feb 15 Mr Kish testified and on Feb 16 Mr Epstein testified.
I would be interested in your opinon of thier testimony.
Thanks
Thank you for the link. I've read (so far) some of Mr. Kish's testimony. If you have a specific question for me, I would be willing to give a viewpoint.
Deja

Fishersville, VA

#496 Dec 31, 2009
I am fairly new to the case...but it is intriguing to me!! I saw the 48 Hours and I don't see much evidence against David. The jurors say the blood splatter was the most damning, but think it supports both sides. It easily could have been high velocity gun splatter, but it very easiley could have been from Kim's hair when he reached over, and I am leaning towards the hair! If it were gun splatter - it'd be splattered ALL over his shirt! Did they test under his nails for gun residue?? And the affairs? SO what?? Men do that. Women do that. It doesn't make them murderers! And his own children? I think not. I know I am NEW to this case, but I truly don't see much evidence against him. Boney was heard in JAIL making statements how he wanted to kill a "cops family and frame him". That there is evidence in Camm's innocence - IMO. There isn't even evidence that Camm & Boney KNEW each other. No phone calls, no hand written notes, nothing. Was there even life insurance evidence? Did Camm sign up for life insurance against his wife & children prior to the murders?? I'd actually be grateful if someone gave me way more evidence against Camm than we have...then I wouldn't feel as bad for the guy sitting in jail innocent.
Watching from Here

Chicago, IL

#497 Dec 31, 2009
Deja, try not to feel too bad for Camm...he's a despicable person. This guy didn't just cheat on his wife once or twice; there were lots and lots of women. And, no, not all men cheat on their spouse. David Camm was a lousy father and an even worse husband. He put his wife thru hell.
Kimmer

Jeffersonville, IN

#498 Dec 31, 2009
Snowman wrote:
Everyone is talking about the infamous sweatshirt. I don't believe that anyone has mentioned that in addition to the stains that were on the sweatshirt, which was found at the scene under Bradley, there was also carpet fiber that was a match to the carpet fiber in David Camm's bedroom. It was a carpet that was unique in fiber content. This leads one to believe that though many are calling Charles Boney a liar, he seems to be telling the truth when he said he wrapped a gun in the sweatshirt and gave it to David. If Boney killed the Camm Family, I find it highly unlikely that he would have been in the bedroom with the sweatshirt. Also, if the garage door was up where the Bronco was parked, as was stated by Camm there is no way in H--- that Rusty the dog would not have entered that garage. Anyone that has a dog knows that even though they might be loose in the neighborhood they will come running when their master returns. I would bet my life that anyone that has a dog will verify this. In fact most dogs know what time their owners are to arrive. If the garage door was up that long after the murders there would have had to been tracks by the dog. In the 1st. trial the Aunt that lives behind the Camm residence tried to cover the subject of the dog. I didn't buy the testimony and am sure the juror's didn't either. If my recollection is correct I don't believe that the question was ever asked of Charles Boney. It would have been interesting to know if he had seen the dog. By the way, one of the Uncles shut the dog in another garage when he arrived on the scene. Something to think about.
As far as the carpet fibers that were also found on the sweatshirt, Boney's MO for his previous crimes has always been to wear one shirt that he could take off as soon as he committed a crime, so as to not be easily identified by his clothing when leaving a crime scene...It has been stated by the family on that road that they did not keep there doors locked, and since Boney was a career crimminal with robbery and stalking women and has said to others that he planned on killing a cops family and framing the cop for the murders, it would not be beyond Boney to have went into the house first and maybe looked under the bed to see if there was a gun or service weapon that he could use to frame the cop that lived there ( he did not know that David was no longer with ISP)...It has also been tesified to that Rusty the dog was not just David and Kims dog he was the neighborhood dog that roamed from 1 house to the others, and it has also been stated that Rusty was scared to death of loud noises, there was one time that fireworks were set off and Rusty was found hiding in bushes 3 days later, so the fact that the dog would have run off with the sound of gun fire is not out of the realm of possiblity..And yes Nelson Lockhart did testify that once he went over to the garage with David is when they saw Rusty and at that point Nelson locked Rusty up in the other garage as to keep him away from the crime scene..
nobs

AOL

#499 Jan 2, 2010
Watching from Here

Chicago, IL

#500 Jan 2, 2010
Of course, Deja, remember that all of these links posted here by "nobs" were written by a close family member, as is the website. Certainly you will get a one-sided view - the family's side. Remember that 24 jurors sat in court, listened to the prosecution and defense, and came to the conclusion that David Camm is guilty of murdering his wife and children. David Camm is a sociopath, and I can guarantee you he will be found guilty in a third trial.
caveman

Brunswick, OH

#501 Jan 2, 2010
Also, Deja, according to ODN, page 128,Camm was
asked three times by the post commander if he needed an ambulance, not once did he request one,
he thought his son had a chance, but did not request am ambulance, the moment I read this was
the moment I was convinced he had involvement in
these murders.
caveman

Brunswick, OH

#502 Jan 2, 2010
This is not incrimidating evidence, according to law, but to me, this is where camm failed to cross all his t's and dot all his i's. Among other things, it appears he struggles from dyselxia, according to family members. How convient.
caveman

Manchester, OH

#503 Jan 2, 2010
One must also question all the prescription dope he injected to control his so-called migraines.
Just the Facts

Jeffersonville, IN

#504 Jan 2, 2010
The fact remains that there is no evidence that David Camm killed his family. There is opinion, and speculation and innuendo, but no evidence. I don't know anyone involved in this case and I agree that David Camm is a poor excuse for a husband, but it still remains that the prosecution must prove that he committed the crime. He does not have to prove anything.
caveman

Aberdeen, OH

#505 Jan 2, 2010
For those interested, I just read my weekly Time
magazine and ran across this quote, make of it what you wish, it is from Viewpoint, by Amanda Ripley, "Each time, we blame the government for failing to keep us safe, and the government goes back to treating us like children."
Kimmer

Jeffersonville, IN

#506 Jan 2, 2010
What kills me about this case, Is when the Floyd County political machine gets on TV via a press conference or has an article published in print about his case that is just hunky dory fine, but god forbid the family members of David Camm who have lived this nightmare say anything on camera or in print and they are bias....There are always 2 sides to every story, and the last time I checked all Americans still had the Freedom of Speech, that is unless like Floyd County you guys would also like to take away that civil liberty, since David has been stripped of his...Hell he can't even get a fair trial...So lay off of the Camm/Lockhart family for there views they have lived a living hell that I would not wish on any of you...Unless you have walked a mile in there shoes you really have no idea what you are talking about.That is my biased opinion take it or leave it.
commonsense

United States

#507 Jan 2, 2010
In a weekly church game of basketball--There were 10 players that first showed up on Sept 28th 2000 including David Camm. They play one game and Sam Lockhart showed up and David sat out the second game so Sam could play. How did David know Sam was going to show up at that time or even show up at all. A member of the church Tom Jolly testified that when David sit out the game they talked for awhile then David ran around the gym to loosen up. But, as some people think the story goes that David slipped out while Sam was playing for him--rushed home (how would he know the precise time Kim would be home)--she may have stopped at the store or stayed talking to other mothers where Brad was taking swimming lesson.
How can anybody with common sense think that all this fell into place. Kim's finger nail was torn off and her feet were severly cut and bruised. David had no cuts or signs that he had been in any struggle.

How could anyone believe that Charles Boney told the truth at any time. It's common sense that he would lie and lie and lie. He has to implicate David even if it doesn't make sense. What truly doesn't make sense is why people believe him in any shape or fashion. Why can't people come off the idea that David Camm is guilty.
I live in Louisville and don't know the anyone involved but I certainly know when someone has been railroaded.
It is rare that a case is overturned as many times as this case has been. The higher courts know that child molestion accusations even without evidence can inflame the community and can hang
innocent people.
Shame on the people of Floyd county for not using common sense.

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