angeleyes

Phillipsburg, NJ

#293 Jan 10, 2010
WeLoveYouShanda wrote:
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Melinda is not sorry at all. Other women at or who have been at Indiana's Women's Prison report that she is bragging about the crime and wearing Shanda's ring like a trophy.
Agree, she is NOT SORRY! I was placed right next to her at IWP...she is one sick b....that has NOOOO remorse! She is always on cloud 9 and acts like her life is wonderful and wants for NOTHING...SHES NOT SUFFERING in prison no matter what people may think. She has money on her books every week, and in a serious relationship with another inmate..lots of women are scared of her cuz of her crime!
Laila

Santa Clara, CA

#294 Jan 10, 2010
Hahaha...no one is scared of her for her crime. Why are you making stuff up angeleyes, with the prison background.

“silly ppl, judging is for God”

Since: Jan 10

Indianapolis

#295 Jan 15, 2010
Laila wrote:
It's so easy for all of you to pass judgement, isn't it? You forget all the people involved were children. I'm sure if Melinda was your child you wouldn't be in here spouting off about her being a monster and saying she needs to fry. It's okay to feel compassion for the victim--I happen to consider each of these girls victims. Whether it be of abuse or circumstance. She's doing her time and that's all any of you should be concerned about.
Much different tone from most, why do you feel this way? It's easy for most of us to see the point of view from the victim's side, this is a horrible case, but you seem to see it differently. Why is that?-- This is not a question to invoke an argument, just a peaceful discussion -- I do not condone or condemn your statement, the actions of Melinda Loveless or anything like that, I'm just asking so for everyone else who wants to attack, please remember what this case is about.(incase someone reads this and doesn't understand the last statement let me explain that this case was obviously a case of hatered, let's not further that on here since, unlike Melinda at the time of the crime, most of us are adults.)

Since: Aug 09

Sacramento, California

#296 Jan 15, 2010
angeleyes wrote:
I unfortunately was housed with melinda loveless & laurie tacket both! i was at IWP very shortly but placed in the same dorm with the 2. Everyones blogs about melinda looking to happy...she is the craziest person i've ever met! Everyday life for her in prison is a joke! She is in the dog program and therfore is allowed to have a dog 24-7! Comes & goes as she pleases because of her dog, has a serious relationship with another inmate, has money on her account every week to purchase commissary and yes...as happy as can be all the time! Sickens me to know she may be released in 2020, she needs to serve her entire sentence!
This is so unfair!!!! She's not being punished for her crime at all!!!!! I've heard from a couple of people that she gets beat up everyday - did you witness any of that when you were at IWP?
Laila

United States

#297 Jan 15, 2010
I see both sides. I'm human. I've made mistakes. Perhaps my mistakes weren't as severe as Melinda's, but who am I to judge? Who is anyone to judge. I think it's easy to read about terrible acts of violence others have commited and feel sorry for the victims, it's natural. But the entire situation is sad and unfortunate and I feel for each girl and their families.

“silly ppl, judging is for God”

Since: Jan 10

Indianapolis

#298 Jan 16, 2010
Laila wrote:
I see both sides. I'm human. I've made mistakes. Perhaps my mistakes weren't as severe as Melinda's, but who am I to judge? Who is anyone to judge. I think it's easy to read about terrible acts of violence others have commited and feel sorry for the victims, it's natural. But the entire situation is sad and unfortunate and I feel for each girl and their families.
I think you have such a different perspective from most people on here. Please don't get me wrong, I think that what happened is outrageous, a terrible, terrible, terrible loss of such a young child. But ..... These girls were young (not that that is an excuse for the violence but perhaps an excuse for the inability to control the situation in a more positive, mature manner?) and they have grown up in a different environment since they were teenagers. An environment that - dispite what some people come on here and say, hopefully has been saturated with some intense therapy, an education (although people complain that "they" paid for, but let's not forget that each of these girls have parents and family who've paid taxes for years so essentially they've paid for their education also)and hopefully they've grown, matured and come to see things in a different light. The difference I think in your perspective seems to be that you can see their side and still have empathy for Shanda and her family. I think that's a pretty awsome ability and I think that your take on the whole mess of a situation will bring about some interesting conversation. Hopefully you will not be attacked. Doesn't it amaze you how people come to a forum to discuss such a violent act, verbalize their disgust in the violence, yet perpetuate it with their own? The world is a funny place. Anyway, I appreciate your posts and am interested to see what is said in the future.-- ps, for those of you who will be wondering, since it seems to be the theme here for anyone who does not go with the flow of hatred, I do not know Melinda, have never been in prison with her and have no desire to ever contact or befriend her.
Laila

Santa Clara, CA

#299 Jan 16, 2010
Thank you. This thread has been going on for years and for every post I make essentially like the one above, there are 50 in response that disagree.
I do think the hypocrisy is quite strange. I'll never "get it". Thank you for your rather thoughtful and intelligent post-nice break from the norm.

Since: Aug 09

Sacramento, California

#301 Jan 21, 2010
Laila wrote:
Thank you. This thread has been going on for years and for every post I make essentially like the one above, there are 50 in response that disagree.
I do think the hypocrisy is quite strange. I'll never "get it". Thank you for your rather thoughtful and intelligent post-nice break from the norm.
There is no hypocrisy. The people who are disgusted by Melinda's actions I am assuming have not tortured a little girl, then burned that little girl to death. If we expressed disgust with Melinda, then tortured and killed a child just like Melinda did, THEN we would be hypocrites.

I've always found it interesting how people are so eager to scream "hypocrite!" on message boards

Those who spew hatred towards the girls who killed Shanda are spewing such hatred out of moral indignation and fury over Melinda, Hope, etc. being jerks. Their hatred is justified. Melinda, on the other hand, spewed hatred towards Shanda out of jealousy - not only was Melinda's hatred unjustified, but she killed as a result of it. The ones who condemn Shanda's killers - have they stabbed and beaten and burned a little girl to death out of jealousy? My guess is no.

It's funny how people are unable to see the differences between things, then cry hypocrisy. I see this a lot on message boards.
Laila

Santa Clara, CA

#302 Jan 21, 2010
Wishing death upon someone who caused a death. You can't sugarcoat that. As I've said, I feel for each girl. Don't try to twist my words.

“silly ppl, judging is for God”

Since: Jan 10

Indianapolis

#303 Jan 22, 2010
WeLoveYouShanda wrote:
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There is no hypocrisy. The people who are disgusted by Melinda's actions I am assuming have not tortured a little girl, then burned that little girl to death. If we expressed disgust with Melinda, then tortured and killed a child just like Melinda did, THEN we would be hypocrites.
I've always found it interesting how people are so eager to scream "hypocrite!" on message boards
Those who spew hatred towards the girls who killed Shanda are spewing such hatred out of moral indignation and fury over Melinda, Hope, etc. being jerks. Their hatred is justified. Melinda, on the other hand, spewed hatred towards Shanda out of jealousy - not only was Melinda's hatred unjustified, but she killed as a result of it. The ones who condemn Shanda's killers - have they stabbed and beaten and burned a little girl to death out of jealousy? My guess is no.
It's funny how people are unable to see the differences between things, then cry hypocrisy. I see this a lot on message boards.
I do see the point you are making. I want to say that first before I go on. I'm not trying to argue with you as I feel that is pointless. You have every right to you views, just as others do. My view is this, yes it's horrible what was done, horrible is not even nearly a strong enough word. Yet and still, this girl will be released from prison. Two already have, it's going to happen and there's really not anything that you or quite honestly anyone else on topix is going to do about it. I just feel that a discussion on how she could possibly do something positive after she is let out would be a good discussion. I think that discussing her demise and how it should come about is both juvenile (most of us are adults are we not?)(yes, melinda may have done the things you said, again although it only infuriates people to say it, she was NOT an adult) and futile. You cannot stop what the judge has put forth as a sentence, you as an individual who has nothing to really do with the case, cannot sway a judge one way or the other simply because the facts were put before him and he made his decision, it's pretty final, she was given the maximum sentence. If he chose to reduce that sentence, it would not be based on anything that someone says on a topix board. So, I think that, as people who claim to be sickened by the violence portrayed by Melinda, to respond with violence of your own only serves to perpetuate it. You cannot end violence with violence, this has been proven repeatedly since the beginning of time.--
sickened by your post

Louisville, KY

#304 Jan 29, 2010
it is a sad thing that anyone would even consider setting her free. she needs to suffer alone in her cell for the rest of her days. we could only hope that she someday sees the horrible thing that she did to this poor girl for what it is and take responsiblity for her own actions without blaming her childhood for her crimes. it is a total slap in the face to everyone who knows of this case. she should stay in prison. if she gets beat up everyday for because she is there, then that is her own fault. she is there because of her own actions. no one made her kill shanda.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#305 Feb 15, 2010
SimplySue wrote:
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Her father is dead, thank goodness. I think that the abuse was greatly exaggerated in Cruel Sacrifice. Melinda and her family contributed quite a bit of info for that book.
There is another book titled, LITTLE LOST ANGEL written by Michael Quinlan that Shanda's family helped with the information on.
Mr. Quinlan has deceased and the book is out of print, but you can usually find a used copy on EBAY or half.com .
Actually while her Father was jailed in The Jail in New Albany Indiana, it was basically proven that he did not abuse his children like was reported, by his three lesbian Daughters. He was held in jail for several months then released to return to Florida. Their was no Proof that he did this. She has until 2020 to prove to the State of Indiana she is worthy or release. By the way I knew The Hervins, the Loveless and Shanda's Dad and Step Mom I stayed a few Houses up from their's in Capital Landing. And I attend school with the others. Amanda's Mom and Dad was in some of my classes.
mr bam bam

United States

#306 Feb 16, 2010
Is she in the same jail as paula cooper

mr bam bam

United States

#307 Feb 16, 2010
If she always has money on her books then she must be living good cuzz in jail money is power I just saw this story on a show called deadly woman she is not gonna do all her time she's gonna get out in 2020 its not fare but that's how the system works
Laila

Indianapolis, IN

#308 Feb 16, 2010
@mr bam bam:
Paula Cooper is in Rockville Correctional Facility, Loveless is in Indiana Women's Prison.
mr bam bam

United States

#309 Feb 16, 2010
Who was more hated in indiana paula cooper or melinda loveless I remember reading paula coopers mom had to move cuzz of what paula and her friends did
mr bam bam

United States

#310 Feb 16, 2010
Are there any interviews of melinda loveless that I can read?
Are You Serious

New Albany, IN

#311 Feb 21, 2010
Laila wrote:
I see both sides. I'm human. I've made mistakes. Perhaps my mistakes weren't as severe as Melinda's, but who am I to judge? Who is anyone to judge. I think it's easy to read about terrible acts of violence others have commited and feel sorry for the victims, it's natural. But the entire situation is sad and unfortunate and I feel for each girl and their families.
Look Laila.....not to bash you, but your point is indicative of exactly what's wrong with kids who grow up with no parental guidance.
These girls made a deliberate and willful decision to do what they did to Shanda. I don't care what level of intellect you have, logic dictates that for every action there are consequences. Why is that? Stupid teenage drama? No, certainly not. Those girls' gave no consideration to those consequences out of sheer rebellion and lack of regard for a human life. Why is that? Because parents didn't do their job. Simple as that.
When I read comments about having compassion toward these girls', it absolutely gripes my ass because we AS A SOCIETY judge people SOLEY by their actions. Our entire law system is completely made up of judging people by what they do....."Innocent until proven guilty"! Were these girls' convicted? Yes. Therefore, I judge accordingly.
I don't harbor ill feelings towards these girls and I don't wish any harm on them. But am I going to judge their INTENT based on their ACTIONS? Absolutely.....and so should you. This is not a hand-slap offense, Laila.....and treating it as such just denegrates the suffering that Shanda endured.
The girls' who committed these crimes deserve exactly the same amount of compassion that they delved out to Shanda.
I see Shanda's mother from time to time in restaurants around Floyds Knobs and New Albany and I can't imagine the pain she suffers. As a parent who dedicates doing the right thing by their children, I cannot begin to feel the anguish over not being able to protect my daughter when she needed me the most. If you want to feel sad for someone.....YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD FOR HER. But these other cretens deserve no compassion.
mr bam bam

United States

#312 Feb 25, 2010
Melinda loveless and christa pike are the worst teenage female killers in american history
Pam Combs

Radcliff, KY

#313 Feb 27, 2010
OMG... NOoooo, I DO NOT think Melinda Loveless should be released early. I think she should serve the rest of her life in prison. She not only took the life of an innocent child, her actions were sickening and disgusting. If anything, I think the things she and the others did to Shanda, should be done to her and the other girls. I don't believe any of them have any remorse for what they have done at all. KEEP HER IN PRISON, WHERE SHE BELONGS FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.

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