Explosion's young survivors move on, ...

Explosion's young survivors move on, but never forget

There are 284 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 3, 2007, titled Explosion's young survivors move on, but never forget. In it, Newsday reports that:

On a hot August night in the quiet village of Lake Grove, seven young people sat in a basement apartment, laughing and talking and playing video games.

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Baldwin, NY

#30 Mar 4, 2007
the truth is, that nobody should have been there in the first place, ill be honest i am a friend these people. yet when u rent out an apt illegaly you shouldn't exspect much.. it is her fault that anybody was there in the first place, its her fault that codes were not right, that there was only one way in and out... yes the behavior of micheal was not one to be that proud of, yet that dosen't mean they had meth labs, or anything like that. if anyone is to blame for this tragedy its Sharif if she truely cared about the well being of the people in her home, she never should have rented her basement out.. and now she should learn her lesson..
Hey Originalman

Brooklyn, NY

#31 Mar 4, 2007
Michele wrote:
and all who are putting my friends down... dont worry... what goes around come back around..
Like the old saying goes, "With friends like that..."
Patricia

Tucson, AZ

#32 Mar 4, 2007
I would just like to say this story brought tears to my eyes, As far as the comments on the lawsuit; they all deserve every penny they get. Yes people hang out in there basements but the ones that rent illegal have stoves in them. We were all kids at one time so the kid shot off his gun, To bad he is not around to tell his side of the story. There was no intent to harm anyone or himself so to bad mouth him after his death is down right cruel. who knows how much of that is true to begin with anyway. If any of the kids are reading this stay strong go after your dreams and don’t let this stop you from where you want to be in the future. God bless you all.
Things not what they seem

Baldwin, NY

#33 Mar 4, 2007
slut wrote:
unless you bought sold or made meth in this so call lab you really have no basis for your claims. the police and fire dept. made a complete investigation of the house, I doubt there has been a huge cover up to hide the truth about the fire. You people need a hobby!! the families of the victims have heard your gossip. While thier child lay suffering they have to hear about how he was a criminal and drug addict injured while cooking meth. The victims and their families have enough to deal with without your petty rambleings. I have been friends with one of the victims for many years and he WAS in the apartment, I have feeling he would know better than those of you making up theses stories who were NEVER INSIDE THE APARTMENT. Oh and MAC unless you've seen this meth lab stop spreading rumors that may hurt the victims and thier families, they've been through enough.
I guess you don't remember the Irene Kovac murder that took place a block away from Sarah Drive in 1994. She was pushed over her balcony and while she lie there paralyzed,with a broken neck, her killer poured DRY gasoline down her throat. Well, it disappeared from the news for over a year and the killer walked around free with his girlfriend on his arm. One would have thought the investigation was over too, until HER HUSBAND WAS ARRESTED OVER A YEAR AFTER THE MURDER. Tried, and convicted and serving time upstate. So just because it may appear that the police have "closed" their investigation, just remember, police are not in the habit of divulging every detail of a crime. That's why the burned out house still stands, and police visit regularly. The truth will come out.
kevin gianninoto

Yonkers, NY

#34 Mar 4, 2007
well first off i need get something off my chest. first off we were not cooking crystal meth. we were hanging out playing video games. thank you for the support. mike was an amazing kid with a great heart. the police cant nake a correct analyzis because they never there
kait

Valley Stream, NY

#35 Mar 4, 2007
i just wanna start off by saying i think its stupid how they actually let people COMMENT ON THIS STUFF sometimes! the things that come out of peoples mouths and the stuff that people say is WRONG! lets get one thing straight ..dont be quick to judge ANYBODY! and also if you dont know any of the people that were in the house then dont go assuming things you have no clue about in the first place! i was friends with mike gerenstein and he was one of the nicest most kind hearted kids i ever met so ill second that he had a GREAT HEART! so seriously dont get too quick to judge anybody! and how can anyone sit here and say some of this stuff when EVERYONE makes mistakes ..some bigger then others but we have NO PLACE to talk at all! i love mike with all my heart so anyone who has something bad so say then dont say ANYTHING AT ALL! and also for you people who want to make up ridiculous rumors about people or things ..seriously just get a life! a meth lab? you have to be JOKING ME! i myself stayed there and hung out there many times and i know myself that the rumor is JUNK! and to blame anyone ..how could you? plus the land lord was told to evict him before and she failed to do so! either way that apartment shouldnt of been rented out in the first place to start with ..and im sure she was aware of that! and also why sit there and say that there was parties, people going in and out, loud music, etc when you have no clue to if thats true or not ..were you EVER there? haha you people make me laugh! keep your STUPID opinions to yourselfs its as simple as that. but to end it off the article was amazing ..made me really upset and made me cry and so did the video but it was put together perfectly and it was really amazing!

rest in peace mike i love you
and rest in peace chris<3
kait

Valley Stream, NY

#36 Mar 4, 2007
Hey Originalman wrote:
<quoted text>Like the old saying goes, "With friends like that..."
um ..excuse me? with friends like what? what exactly are you trying to say? like i already said you dont know them so dont judge ..its really that simple. i mean is that hard to comprehend or what?

haha you are a joke! "with friends like that"? ah seriously ill say it again dont speak about something or someone that you really know nothing about:] and get a life!

for the record mike gerenstein was an amazing friend ..like my older brother and im sure the rest of them are amazing friends too so hush your mouth! haha
michele

Brooklyn, NY

#37 Mar 4, 2007
thanks for the defend.. lol im sorry about your friends..<3
amanda

Valley Stream, NY

#38 Mar 4, 2007
first off i agreed wit kait .. but then again she is also my friend .. mike was the greatest kid in the world .. he did everything for everyone including me .. i was his girlfriend at the time who was staying at the house .. i thank god everyday that i was not there that night .. all my friends know that i wasnt able to leave cuz my friends lived so far away from where i was staying .. fortunately for me i was able to leave the house for that night .. i am furious at the fact that so many people can make up such ridiculous things about what was goin on there .. there was NO METH LAB !!.. i lived there for the last 3 months of mikes life so i would know if something like that was happening down there .. i know for a fact that mike would never do meth .. i was with mike, kevin, david and chris that night before that happened .. and let me just say that i didnt know kevin, david for long but they are the greatest kids .. they made me laugh and have a good time while i was there .. and chris also was a funny kid i didnt know him for that long either but he was a nice kid .. i hate the fact that the people who decided to post comments about the article have so much to bad things to judge about the people that where down there .. i know what was goin on in the apartment for the last couple days and the detectives have some nerve to say things that werent going on .. i really hope that the landlady gets a good punishment for all this .. because in reality she should have not rented that apartment out to mike she had to of know that it was illegal but she did it anyway .. and she didnt even tell mike that she wanted him out .. she ignored the notices about the apartment that she was gettin .. and i think that the town should be sued because they didnt take further action when the landlady didnt tell him to leave .. so i hope that the brave soldiers that were down there that are suing the landlady and/or town get the money they deserve every penny !! i think that mike still should be here with us and not be blamed for what happened .. yes, i will say that it was stupid of him to shoot off a gun in the house i even told him that when i was there but he was a kid doing what normal kids do .. to this day i still love him so much and i will never forget about him .. but the article was great it def. brought tears to my eyes

R.i.P. MiKEY G i love you
R.i.P. CHRiS T
Pilli

AOL

#39 Mar 5, 2007
Dont judge people, dont listen to rumors, it brings tears to my eyes that good friends of mine are getting put down after all they have been through! like the old saying if you have nothing nice to say dont say it at all. exspecially after a terrible thing like this. i understand people want to voice your opinion but dont put mari, mike, dave and kev through anymore stress than they have already. if anyone was on drugs it would be shown up in the blood test and im sure would be released and a big part of the factor. and its not! and the entire meth lab rumor got started when a firefigther was joking around with his friend saying this looks like a meth lab explosion and everything got out of control from there. i love you mari, mike, kev and dave....you to michele
strong and wise

Fair Lawn, NJ

#40 Mar 5, 2007
you kids posting are strong, and wise beyond your years. for those adults in the neigborhood to speak ill of those that have passed is a sign and symptom of their lot in life. No one deserves to die, especially kids getting together to enjoy their freedoms, life and each others' company. jennifer barrios did a great job telling this story and this spirit that exists amongst the survivors is something special. don't lose it; keep fighting. keep believing in yourselves.
yeah right

Baldwin, NY

#41 Mar 5, 2007
amanda wrote:
first off i agreed wit kait .. but then again she is also my friend .. mike was the greatest kid in the world .. he did everything for everyone including me .. i was his girlfriend at the time who was staying at the house .. i thank god everyday that i was not there that night .. all my friends know that i wasnt able to leave cuz my friends lived so far away from where i was staying .. fortunately for me i was able to leave the house for that night .. i am furious at the fact that so many people can make up such ridiculous things about what was goin on there .. there was NO METH LAB !!.. i lived there for the last 3 months of mikes life so i would know if something like that was happening down there .. i know for a fact that mike would never do meth .. i was with mike, kevin, david and chris that night before that happened .. and let me just say that i didnt know kevin, david for long but they are the greatest kids .. they made me laugh and have a good time while i was there .. and chris also was a funny kid i didnt know him for that long either but he was a nice kid .. i hate the fact that the people who decided to post comments about the article have so much to bad things to judge about the people that where down there .. i know what was goin on in the apartment for the last couple days and the detectives have some nerve to say things that werent going on .. i really hope that the landlady gets a good punishment for all this .. because in reality she should have not rented that apartment out to mike she had to of know that it was illegal but she did it anyway .. and she didnt even tell mike that she wanted him out .. she ignored the notices about the apartment that she was gettin .. and i think that the town should be sued because they didnt take further action when the landlady didnt tell him to leave .. so i hope that the brave soldiers that were down there that are suing the landlady and/or town get the money they deserve every penny !! i think that mike still should be here with us and not be blamed for what happened .. yes, i will say that it was stupid of him to shoot off a gun in the house i even told him that when i was there but he was a kid doing what normal kids do .. to this day i still love him so much and i will never forget about him .. but the article was great it def. brought tears to my eyes
R.i.P. MiKEY G i love you
R.i.P. CHRiS T
Very sad article just not telling the whole story. Not saying they deserved to get hurt or die, just the facts. You can reply all you want, the SCPD WAS AND STILL IS INVESTIGATING THE ACTIVITIES OF THAT APARTMENT.
Pilli

AOL

#42 Mar 5, 2007
i know for a fact that there was no drug use in the apartment that night...if there was there would be traces in the blood of mike and chris..it would have been in the media already regradless if suffolk police are still investigating.
Regina

AOL

#43 Mar 5, 2007
If the cost of living wasn't so ridiculous on LI then we wouldn't need to rent out parts of our homes to pay the mortgage. As for them shooting the gun, they were kids. We all have our young and stupid days. How fast people seem to forget they don't have halos. My heart is with the survivors and their families and friends. I hope your pain gets easier to deal with.
Tough Guy

AOL

#44 Mar 5, 2007
Drugs are bad.
Tough Guy

AOL

#45 Mar 5, 2007
amanda wrote:
first off i agreed wit kait .. but then again she is also my friend .. mike was the greatest kid in the world .. he did everything for everyone including me .. i was his girlfriend at the time who was staying at the house .. i thank god everyday that i was not there that night .. all my friends know that i wasnt able to leave cuz my friends lived so far away from where i was staying .. fortunately for me i was able to leave the house for that night .. i am furious at the fact that so many people can make up such ridiculous things about what was goin on there .. there was NO METH LAB !!.. i lived there for the last 3 months of mikes life so i would know if something like that was happening down there .. i know for a fact that mike would never do meth .. i was with mike, kevin, david and chris that night before that happened .. and let me just say that i didnt know kevin, david for long but they are the greatest kids .. they made me laugh and have a good time while i was there .. and chris also was a funny kid i didnt know him for that long either but he was a nice kid .. i hate the fact that the people who decided to post comments about the article have so much to bad things to judge about the people that where down there .. i know what was goin on in the apartment for the last couple days and the detectives have some nerve to say things that werent going on .. i really hope that the landlady gets a good punishment for all this .. because in reality she should have not rented that apartment out to mike she had to of know that it was illegal but she did it anyway .. and she didnt even tell mike that she wanted him out .. she ignored the notices about the apartment that she was gettin .. and i think that the town should be sued because they didnt take further action when the landlady didnt tell him to leave .. so i hope that the brave soldiers that were down there that are suing the landlady and/or town get the money they deserve every penny !! i think that mike still should be here with us and not be blamed for what happened .. yes, i will say that it was stupid of him to shoot off a gun in the house i even told him that when i was there but he was a kid doing what normal kids do .. to this day i still love him so much and i will never forget about him .. but the article was great it def. brought tears to my eyes
R.i.P. MiKEY G i love you
R.i.P. CHRiS T
Mike was not normal. He was mentally challenged. That is obvious to everyone except you. What is your problem, lack of education perhaps
Yeah Right

Baldwin, NY

#46 Mar 5, 2007
Pilli wrote:
i know for a fact that there was no drug use in the apartment that night...if there was there would be traces in the blood of mike and chris..it would have been in the media already regradless if suffolk police are still investigating.
According to SCPD & Fire Dept. who spoke to the surrounding neighbors, They were making it and using it in that apartment. Why else would he have a rifle in his basement apartment in such a safe neighborhood?????????? Maybe he was afraid one of his customers was going to rob him or try to steal the drugs.
Yeah Right

Baldwin, NY

#47 Mar 5, 2007
DRUGS KILL!!!!!!!!!!
When are you people going to face the cold hard truth??????????
How many more "INNOCENT" bystander friends of yours are going to die before you get the big picture??????????
kait

Valley Stream, NY

#48 Mar 5, 2007
Tough Guy wrote:
<quoted text>Mike was not normal. He was mentally challenged. That is obvious to everyone except you. What is your problem, lack of education perhaps
if i knew who you were i would knock some sense into your stupid head! lets remember one last time people you obviously dont know any of the people that were in the house or else you wouldnt be talking stupid! im sick of everyone thinking the kids in the house were on drugs and you just made me sick saying mike gerenstein was mentally challenged! you obviously are missing a few srews up stairs buddy because for you to talk about someone who passed away that you didnt even know then you need some serious help! DO NOT JUDGE OR MAKE ASSUMSITIONS ON SOMEONE OR THEIR LIFE IF YOU BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING AT ALL! im sorry your mad because you will never be mature enough to just shut your mouth! mike gerenstein was NOT mentally challenged and he was definitly not on drugs! its funny because if you REALLY knew him you wouldnt say any of that because its simply not true! just keep your mouths shut if you have nothing nice to say! they were not on drugs and thats the end of the story right there! i mean if they were on drugs then im sure we would know ..and okay maybe they still are investigating it but i will tell you right now all you who think they were on drugs ..its your opinion and YOUR OPINION SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER ONE BIT TO ANYONE SO KEEP IT TO YOURSELF AND GROW UP! how old are you people? show some appreciation and support to the people who read these comments ..none of us want to hear your stupid ideas, theories or opinions! yea no duh drugs are bad so maybe you should stay of them before you post another ridiculous comment on here:]! anyone who wants to shoot anyone down on here or say mean stuff then have fun because your making yourself look stupid!

ill make this clear one more time for anyone who just posted anything rude on here ..mike gerenstein and the other kids were good kids ..some of you just need to realize that!
kait

Valley Stream, NY

#49 Mar 5, 2007
Yeah Right wrote:
<quoted text>
According to SCPD & Fire Dept. who spoke to the surrounding neighbors, They were making it and using it in that apartment. Why else would he have a rifle in his basement apartment in such a safe neighborhood?????????? Maybe he was afraid one of his customers was going to rob him or try to steal the drugs.
well the SCPD and the FIRE DEPT are a huge bunch of liers ..and where did YOU happen to hear or get this information because i have never read it nor seen it with my own eyes! must be more people talking without thinking right? i stayed there with mike gerenstein and was there alot for the past 3or4 months of his life and i KNOW FOR A FACT that there was NO METH LAB in that aparment! and even if there was explain why i never saw a damn thing and explain how they have no evidence? mike would never do that ever in his life i know him better then that! just get over yourselves ..think what you want but WE KNOW THE TRUTH!

THERE WAS NO METH LAB IN THAT HOUSE ..IF YOU WERE NEVER IN THAT HOUSE THEN PLEASE KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! I WAS THERE IVE SEEN THE APARTMENT I SLEPT THERE I HUNG OUT THERE I WAS FRIENDS WITH MIKE ..I KNOW THERE WAS NO METH LAB! END OF STORY PART 2:]

and to all the people posting stupid ridiculous somewhat HIRLARIOUS things on there that are totally obsurd ..thanks for showing us how narrow minded and rude you all are! comment on something you KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT!

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