Grandmother's dedication was her down...

Grandmother's dedication was her downfall

There are 38 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 17, 2007, titled Grandmother's dedication was her downfall. In it, Newsday reports that:

From the time Martha Watson was a little girl seven decades ago, the white house with an inviting front porch in Nesconset was the place she called home.

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Susan

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Dec 17, 2007
What an animal Chunga is. He deserves the same fate that Martha endured. May she rest in peace, the animal who killed her needs to suffer the rest of his life.
The Big Picture

United States

#2 Dec 17, 2007
I think the rest of the family knew about Mathew's problem but refused to get involved. Why would they, when Martha was clearly providing room and board for Mathew day after day.
This is one of those situations where the rest of the family should have said "wait a minute, let's not just let Martha deal with this on her own," even though Martha probably kept insisting she was able to.

Too often we just accept it when people say what we want to hear, instead of us doing the painful exercise of looking at what is actually happening and helping them get out of it.
Marthas cousin

Tampa, FL

#3 Dec 17, 2007
The Big Picture wrote:
I think the rest of the family knew about Mathew's problem but refused to get involved. Why would they, when Martha was clearly providing room and board for Mathew day after day.
This is one of those situations where the rest of the family should have said "wait a minute, let's not just let Martha deal with this on her own," even though Martha probably kept insisting she was able to.
Too often we just accept it when people say what we want to hear, instead of us doing the painful exercise of looking at what is actually happening and helping them get out of it.
Martha did the best she could without worrying those closest to her. She was from a different generation and not one to complain about things. To say her family should have known or seen more, well you just didn't know Martha. It sounds to me that she was holding out hope for one reason or another and just did not want to talk about it.

Having said that, it is truly sad that we have lost her and yet people still manage to make such hateful comments on here regarding what happened YET KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HER OR OUR FAMILY.
What is that all about

Pleasanton, CA

#4 Dec 17, 2007
A 70-year old woman is no match for 20-somethings hooked on heroin. And the family just looked the other way. They certainly knew Matthew was on drugs. They just wanted to wash their hands of the problem. "Granny" never should have let these loser grandsons live in her house. Heroin addicts could care less about ANYONE - it's all about getting more drugs at anyone's expense. She paid the ultimate price thinking she could turn him around. Shame on the rest of the family for ignoring the problem.
What is that all about

Pleasanton, CA

#5 Dec 17, 2007
The Big Picture wrote:
I think the rest of the family knew about Mathew's problem but refused to get involved. Why would they, when Martha was clearly providing room and board for Mathew day after day.
This is one of those situations where the rest of the family should have said "wait a minute, let's not just let Martha deal with this on her own," even though Martha probably kept insisting she was able to.
Too often we just accept it when people say what we want to hear, instead of us doing the painful exercise of looking at what is actually happening and helping them get out of it.
You couldn't be more correct in assessing the situation. It was easier for the rest of the family to leave it to Martha. The guilt belongs to them, and, of course, to Matthew. What's he going to do now? The true test: his own father said, "No comment." That speaks volumes.
What is that all about

North Brunswick, NJ

#6 Dec 17, 2007
Marthas cousin wrote:
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Martha did the best she could without worrying those closest to her. She was from a different generation and not one to complain about things. To say her family should have known or seen more, well you just didn't know Martha. It sounds to me that she was holding out hope for one reason or another and just did not want to talk about it.
Having said that, it is truly sad that we have lost her and yet people still manage to make such hateful comments on here regarding what happened YET KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HER OR OUR FAMILY.
You entirely miss the point. It shouldn't have been left to Martha, a 70-year-old, to deal with these punks. You can be as angry as you like for people pointing this out to you and the rest of your family, but it doesn't change the facts: Where were you all when Martha needed you most? You were in denial.
Mary Ann - Frank - Casarr

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Dec 17, 2007
It it a very sad story to someone who look out
for her family.
Mary Ann - Frank - Casarr

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Dec 17, 2007
It is so sad to read this story at
this time of the year. When will
it be peace in the home from grown
adults living with their parents.
JIM

Quogue, NY

#9 Dec 17, 2007
This goes for all kinds of parents.
Be a parent first.
Be a friend second.
I'm far from perfect, but I do the best I can.
Marthas cousin

Tampa, FL

#10 Dec 17, 2007
What is that all about wrote:
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You entirely miss the point. It shouldn't have been left to Martha, a 70-year-old, to deal with these punks. You can be as angry as you like for people pointing this out to you and the rest of your family, but it doesn't change the facts: Where were you all when Martha needed you most? You were in denial.
You are an idiot! None of the rest of the family lived in town and a lot of us are out of state. Just who are you and how are you related to this story? I am curious because you seem to think you know it all, don't you?
Marthas cousin

Tampa, FL

#11 Dec 17, 2007
What is that all about wrote:
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You couldn't be more correct in assessing the situation. It was easier for the rest of the family to leave it to Martha. The guilt belongs to them, and, of course, to Matthew. What's he going to do now? The true test: his own father said, "No comment." That speaks volumes.
You people who claim this are idiots. How are you related to this story to think you know it all?

As I stated in another post none of the rest of the family lived in town and a lot of the family lives out of state. So, how then would they know otherwise?
Family Lies and Drama

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

#12 Dec 17, 2007
Yes, Alexander Avenue has been changing. For the better.

While the neighbors have neatly maintained homes, 187 has been an eyesore for years.

Funny how that happens.
Joe a former coworker

AOL

#13 Dec 17, 2007
Martha was a beautiful human being - we worked together at the department store for many years. The same care she took with her family, she took with her coworkers and peers. We are very blessed to have had her in our lives.
People make decisions sometimes that they can't take back later on. We need to be checking those facebooks, my spaces, and do whatever we can to help our young people so things like this don't happen.
Thanks Martha - for showing us how to treat each other and how to love our kids and grandkids.
I saw it

Stony Brook, NY

#14 Dec 17, 2007
I saw the house. It's a cute little white house with a front porch. Eyesore? No way!
The minimansions built in that neighborhood, eyesores!
Perhaps you should have bought elsewhere. We don't need snobs like you!
Family Lies and Drama wrote:
Yes, Alexander Avenue has been changing. For the better.
While the neighbors have neatly maintained homes, 187 has been an eyesore for years.
Funny how that happens.
brook

Stony Brook, NY

#15 Dec 17, 2007
They wouldn't have known unless they were told.
Marthas cousin wrote:
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You people who claim this are idiots. How are you related to this story to think you know it all?
As I stated in another post none of the rest of the family lived in town and a lot of the family lives out of state. So, how then would they know otherwise?
Hmm

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Dec 17, 2007
This poor woman. She didn't deserve any of this.
My deepest regards.
RIP
Hmm

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Dec 17, 2007
Family Lies and Drama wrote:
Yes, Alexander Avenue has been changing. For the better.
While the neighbors have neatly maintained homes, 187 has been an eyesore for years.
Funny how that happens.
Give her a break! You're a horrible human being! She was 70 years old, and now she's passed! Come on now.
matt

Pompano Beach, FL

#18 Dec 17, 2007
truly a sad ending for this good woman. my condolences go out to her friends and family.

Also, people on the message board need to realize that there is a time when it is inappropriate to criticize, even if your are right. this just happened, and people are mourning, so please respect that and have some compassion
Get Real

Hinesburg, VT

#20 Dec 17, 2007
It bother's me that the headline makes this look like it's Martha's Fault. No one should have to move from their lifelong home just to avoid danger. The danger was her downfall, not her dedication to her home or family.

Rest in Peace
I saw it

Stony Brook, NY

#22 Dec 17, 2007
Hmm,

The house is not an eyesore. It is a cute little white house with a white front porch. A nice yard, not messy either. A very sweet little house.

Whatever mess I saw was probably from the police investigation. Some furniture tossed out on the front porch and just in front of the front porch. Not much though.

I just can't believe that it happened there and to a nice lady like that. It's so incredibly sad.

What's wrong with this world?

Then we get snobs posting that her pretty little house was an eyesore? What's come over some people? Have they no shame?
Hmm wrote:
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Give her a break! You're a horrible human being! She was 70 years old, and now she's passed! Come on now.

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