Neighbors in Nesconset mourn

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Neighbors mourned the loss of a Nesconset grandmother found dead in her home as police continued to investigate the crime yesterday. Full Story
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Nesconset Resident

Melville, NY

#1 Dec 3, 2007
I grew up in that neighborhood, this is a damn shame. It was a good place to live and looks even nicer these days with all the renovations and updated homes in the area. Still a Nesconset resident, though, and I'm finding it more and more amazing as I keep hearing about the Smithtown drug problems. Am I just totally out of touch here?
brook

Stony Brook, NY

#2 Dec 3, 2007
No. If you aren't in it yourself you would have no way of knowing, unless you just happened to live nextdoor to someone who is.

I was and still am in total shock over this. It isn't a bad neighborhood at all. So why the violence? I suppose that violence can happen anywhere at anytime to anyone of us.

I cannot understand how anyone could do this to another person.
What is that all about

Pleasanton, CA

#3 Dec 3, 2007
You are definitely not out of touch. Heroin is the scourge of Suffolk County.
roz

United States

#4 Dec 3, 2007
I worked with Martha years ago at the mall. She seemed like a very nice person.
sam

Oakdale, NY

#5 Dec 3, 2007
I grew up in this area too. If you make it to thirty without a drug or alcohol problem, consider yourself fortunate. Drugs and alcohol cross all through out society - not just poor folks. The "nice houses" hide a lot of sometimes hurting, empty people. As far back as 1977, I know of drug-related acts of violence which took place right in "nice Nesconset". Newsday can't report EVERYTHING.
Alexis

Long Island City, NY

#6 Dec 3, 2007
Starts in HS with the drugs... even middle school. There is too much freedom for the kids in this area. Parents give money and never ask where it is going. Plus parents in the area are not educated on drug use and just go around thinking, no not my child.
lil joe

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Dec 3, 2007
A 20 yr old living with his 70 yr old Grandmother. Where were his parents?
Mary

Riverdale, NJ

#8 Dec 3, 2007
Maybe the grandson did it?Where are his parents?
Smithtown resident

Bronx, NY

#9 Dec 3, 2007
Nesconset Resident wrote:
I grew up in that neighborhood, this is a damn shame. It was a good place to live and looks even nicer these days with all the renovations and updated homes in the area. Still a Nesconset resident, though, and I'm finding it more and more amazing as I keep hearing about the Smithtown drug problems. Am I just totally out of touch here?
The sad reality is that there is a big drug problem that most of us were not aware of unless it touched our lives. I was at the card store at the Nesconset Plaza on Smithtown Blvd last week and saw a number of used needles in the parking lot by the library. I was stunned, to say the least, but the more I ask, the more nasty news I hear. The police need to do something and quickly, because I think this is larger than any of us thought. Heroin has made a major comeback and way too many kids are involved with it.
me in smithtown

Albany, NY

#11 Dec 3, 2007
lil joe wrote:
A 20 yr old living with his 70 yr old Grandmother. Where were his parents?
I knew his mother. She died about 15 years ago. he was raised by his grandparents.
Karen

AOL

#12 Dec 3, 2007
I lived next store for over 30 years. We were very good friends with the grandmother, Martha as well as Martha's Dad who passed away many years ago. Martha was a sweet dear woman who loved cats and even took care of our dog when we were on vacation. One of the people in a previous post mentioned that Matha used to give her vegetables from the garden behind their home. The same for us too. Yes, it is true, Martha would give you the shirt off her back. She was a very simple person that never wanted or cared to learn to drive. She held a couple of different jobs as a salesperson though the years at the Smithhaven Mall and walked to and from the Mall every single day that she worked. I remember when Mathew was born. He was a very sweet little baby. Someone asked where his parents are. Mathew's Mom passed away at 30 years old of cancer. His dad Alan lived with the two children in Matha's basement. She had an apartment made so that she could help take care of the family. From what I understand, Mathew's Dad Alan Senior moved away from Nesconset several years ago and left his two sons in Martha's care. She did not have it easy raising those two boys. We remember Mathew's older brother Alan Jr. as well who I understand posted on this site yesterday. However, I did not personally see his posting. The two older brothers were friends with our sons. The middle brother is still good friends with our middle son. We moved away 7 years ago to be closer to my husband's job in New York City. Just to let everyone reading my postknow that our street, Alexander Avenue in Nesconset and the surrounding streets was a nice residental area without any crime. It saddens us that Martha was killed in such a horrible fashion. This poor woman would not hurt a fly and did not deserve to die a horrible death. As far as who did it, I hope that it comes out very shortly. The two older sons of Martha and their children and wives are hurting. This is indeed a tragedy that I hope will be resolved very quickly and the proper person who committed this unspeakable crime be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!
Common Sense

Hackensack, NJ

#14 Dec 3, 2007
If you don't like the flies... don't hang out with shiiiit... in this case, it cost an old women her life.

Since: Jun 07

Chester, NY

#15 Dec 3, 2007
Mary wrote:
Maybe the grandson did it?Where are his parents?
Deceased I believe - since he was young.
Marthas Cousin

Tampa, FL

#16 Dec 3, 2007
Three blogs later and I am still having to ask the same question:

What is wrong with you people? Please show some respect for the loved ones of the people involved. You hear about these things in the news and can be thankful it is not your family and then one day it just may be. Think about that before you make your insultive comments.
Elvis

United States

#17 Dec 3, 2007
I guess alot of people in Suffolk don't believe in going to the doctor when you're hurting. They self medicate.

Obviously there are alot of people in pain in Suffolk.

Time to stop playing Doctor, and go to a real one.
rosa

Selden, NY

#18 Dec 3, 2007
Comments like that piss me off.....What more can the police do??What about parents taking reponsibility for their children? I know plenty of people who grew up in Brentwood and Central Islip who were raised in good families who were not into drugs or crime. If parents took responsibility for THEIR children instead of blaming schools, teachers, police.....maybe children would not grow up this way. I am disgusted by the lack of respect teachers and ESPECIALLY police officers get.
Live on Alexander

Hicksville, NY

#19 Dec 3, 2007
I live on Alexander Avenue and am so shocked and scared...We need to find out who did this and why...

Does anyone know Matt's condition? I wonder if he will know who did this....

On News12.com it states that Martha was stabbed to death. Allen Watson made a post yesterday that he was not informed of how his grandmother had died.

Does anyone know if in fact Martha was stabbed at her home?
Pls accept my sympathies

New York, NY

#20 Dec 3, 2007
To the family of Martha ... very sad ... may she rest in peace. It sounds like she was a nice woman who deserved better.
anonymous

Sea Cliff, NY

#21 Dec 3, 2007
grew up with watzz...was my brother till an incident split us up a year ago.........just wanna let everybody know first hand that granny was an absolute sweetheart.......she would always feed me and take me into her home.....unfortunatel she was too nice and turned a blind eye.........its sad it had to turn out this way but hopefully now watzz can realize this isnt no way to live and it cost his grandmothers life.......i cant stand driving by everyday on my way to school and work and seeing the house i practicaly grew up in blocked off by police tape....this whole situation is an absolute shame
I knew Martha

AOL

#22 Dec 4, 2007
I worked with Martha at Sterns' Department Store for many years. She was a kind, decent and quiet woman who never had an evil word to say about anyone. After she retired, I would see her walking to and from the Mall where she would socialize with former coworkers who still worked at the mall.

I was not aware that her life was filled with the tragedy of family members on drugs. She never spoke of this nor did she appear to play a Martyr or Victim. She kept her personal business to herself. Sort of that old school thing--no melodrama--she just did what she thought she had to.

People here are quite judgemental. If you have not walked a mile in someone's shoes who has a loved one with a drug problem, then you really don't know how it is. We can all point to "that house" where police and myriad people seem to be always milling about. But try to get drug rehab intervention for a twenty year old! They are no longer considered a child so therefore they cannot be placed in rehab against their will (and you can't be rehabbed against your will) You can't just "throw" out someone who has lived in your home. Any Suffolk Cop will tell you he can't throw anyone out unless you have gone to District Court to evict them (this costs money) or go to Family Court (if it is a blood family member) to get an Order of Protection. Police are not rehab specialists, they will give you a handout sheet that lists agencies (many of which never answer their phone, are too busy, or have a waiting list a mile long)

Instead of pointing fingers, I believe everyone should become involved. I don't know of many homes in Suffolk that have not been touched by drug or alcohol problems. And if you think that a "good neighborhood" doesn't have them, then you have blinders on.

Martha was a woman who was doing the best that she could. She was left to not only raise her own children but grandchildren also. Do not make her murder her own fault because she "didn't deal with her drug-involved grandchild." How would we know if she didn't anyway?

Wake up Suffolk County. We have drugs in every neighborhood. Our schools are loaded with it. Take off the blinders and look around. I am sure you will be suprised as you begin to notice things--those crowds behind 7-11 smoking pot--kids cutting school to get high at someone's house while their parents are at work--young people with the opinion that dealing is a much lucrative way of life than working at the local Walmarts. All sorts of hopeless people.

It saddens me that a woman that spent her life doing only good for others could be caught up in such a thing. I will miss her.

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