Plans unveiled for stretch in Smithto...

Plans unveiled for stretch in Smithtown to slow drivers

There are 32 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 27, 2008, titled Plans unveiled for stretch in Smithtown to slow drivers. In it, Newsday reports that:

The state Department of Transportation yesterday unveiled changes to a stretch of roadway in Smithtown where three teenagers were killed last year.

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Felix Leiter

Mount Vernon, NY

#1 Jun 27, 2008
While the above changes will improve safety, they will also greatly increase traffic westbound as the lanes merge from 2 into one. This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer made his lanes wide-body and created a traffic jam. The better solution would be to maintain 2 lanes and build a concrete barrier. However, in this particular case, the solution by the Department of Transportation is better than leaving the dangerous road as it currently is.
Ken Hansen Brookhaven

New York, NY

#2 Jun 27, 2008
The only thing that makes this stretch of road any more dangerous than any other stretch of road on Long Island is the fools who use it as a racing zone. A couple of really good "spy" type cameras that can catch the license plates of wrong doers and a very strong tough enforcement of violators is a much cheaper cure that targets offenders and not the general public. England has a very low speed violation rate with drivers that are quite civil due to their well marked "speed" cameras. These cameras are well placed in high problem zones. You get your ticket in the mail and you pay it or else. A simple fix at one thousandth of the price with no ensuing traffic jams.
They re gonna do what

Scarsdale, NY

#3 Jun 27, 2008
They're going to make the road one lane Westbound? Now that's just plain stupid. The State owns the land on both sides of the road. DOT should take enough of it to create the room they need for a concrete median and reduce the speed limits. Taking a lane away is going to create more traffic westbound and will turn the morning rush into a nightmare. Leave it to the idiots in government to come up with something this absurd.
SlowAndSteady

Freeport, ME

#4 Jun 27, 2008
Bone headed. Enforcement would have been more appropriate, now instead we have a major reduction in capacity of the flow from Smithtown/Edgewood -> Northern State. Reactionary government at its worst. Do traffic engineers actually do any traffic studies before designing a change like this, or has it all become finger in the wind work. Turn in your PE boys.
gump

Medford, NY

#5 Jun 27, 2008
How about instead the reckless teenagers take the bus and stop acting invincible. Why should the taxpayers foot the bill and get jammed up in traffic beacuse of basic darwinism?
srs

Bethpage, NY

#6 Jun 27, 2008
Time to start revoking some licenses. Strictly enforced by a 20-year jail sentence for driving without a license.
That should take care of the problem eventually. It would help congestion, too.
Not Compassionate

Stony Brook, NY

#7 Jun 27, 2008
Put the phone down and put two hands on the wheel. Enforce that! These kids were probably playing around and became "distracted". The Coram woman was probably on the "Phone" and was distracted.

Again, punish us all for the errors of the few.
Stop the Insanity

United States

#8 Jun 27, 2008
This "solution" is just plain idiotic. This must be the same DOT moron that refuses to add HOV exits on the LIE between Exits 56 and 60.

If their studies show 50 percent of drivers in the westbound lane drive 60 mph or faster, then what about the percentage of speeding drivers in the eastbound lanes? Did the DOT look at the directions of all offending vehicles? If I remember correctly, Steven Badke was driving eastbound.

Making two lanes into one is not a solution. But if they are going to sacrifice one lane, why not put in the concrete barriers that are needed? Twelve feet and rumble strips will not stop a speeding, out-of-control vehicle from crossing into the oncoming lanes.
Brooklyn G

Medford, NY

#9 Jun 27, 2008
Keep two lanes on each side and put in a concrete divider and call it a day. Throw one of those big speed bumps or two along the way and we should all be fine.
Brian M

Sayreville, NJ

#10 Jun 27, 2008
Just lower the speed limit and add cops once a week. Idiots. Now the traffic is going to increase in residential areas with people trying to get around this mess.
jim

Warren, NJ

#11 Jun 27, 2008
close down a lane? you just made it worse ! who thought up this RETARDED plan? More people will DIE
Voice of Reason

Bronx, NY

#12 Jun 27, 2008
How is it that with increasing numbers of cars on Long Island, shutting down a lane on one of the biggest roads on the Island makes sense? Obviously these people don't have to drive in the traffic on these roads. The stretch from 111 to 347 is bad enough with only 1 lane in each direction. I don't have a problem with other safety measures, but eliminating the lane solves nothing.

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#13 Jun 27, 2008
THIS PLAN DOES 3 THINGS....1st IT SHOWS HOW STUPID THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS REALLLLY ARE, BY REDUCING WEST BOUND LANES TO ONLY ONE.....2nd....IT CREATES A TRAFFIC BOTTLE-NECK JAM UP..... & 3rd DURING OFF PEAK HOURS TRAFFIC WILL BE TRAVELING OVER 45 MPH....WICH MEANS MORE TICKETS FOR THE SCPD......SO....WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED FROM THESE BOZOS????.....WE CAN COUNT ON THEM WHEN WE NEED A SOLUTION, TO SCREW UP THE PROBLEM WORSE THAN IT WAS BEFORE!!!!......CMON.....SING THE SONG....I I I LOVE NEW YORK......
Southbound

Kansas City, MO

#15 Jun 27, 2008
Do I understand this right? They are building a bottleneck? Ret4rds!
Busey

Melville, NY

#16 Jun 27, 2008
You really don't need to fix anything.

How about this crazy idea.....

Curvy road.... SLOW THE HELL DOWN!

Genius right? You know how long it took me to think of that?
CFL

Brentwood, NY

#17 Jun 27, 2008
Can't wait to see people driving west, passing on the shoulder due to the traffic jam. Imagine the bottle neck in the morning with the buses, students, & teachers all trying to get to HS West... Not to mention the commuters trying to get to the Sunken Meadow Pkwy...
Sure doesn't sound smart to me... Why can't they erect a barrier in the existing space between East & West bound lanes (i.e. like on the Taconic Pkwy., etc.)???
Enforcement of whatever speed limit is posted would also be a huge help...
I drive this route 5 days a week & NEVER see a cop...

RIP Dan, Mike & john...
bobby babylon

AOL

#18 Jun 27, 2008
new laws, lane closures, redirections, closed campuses, etc. aren't going to change a damn thing. more hours of driver training? moving the driving age back to 19 or 21?

These "solutions" are nothing more than sound bytes for politicians and administrators. fact is that inexperienced, reckless (high/buzzed/drunk?) drivers have been dying for generations and will continue to do so. I'm certainly not rooting for it but it is what it is. let's stop blaming everything but the driver for the problem.

Since: Jun 08

Chicago, IL

#19 Jun 27, 2008
If the state thinks this will make this section safer with 1 lane, why not make all of Jericho turnpike westbound 1 lane?
facts

United States

#20 Jun 27, 2008
The only thing that is going to fix that road is the stupid kids that think they can do it all and not get hurt should not be able to drive, get them off the road. Parents come on teach your kids SOMETHING, you can't always be their friends sometimes you have to be there parents.
Independent

Valley Stream, NY

#21 Jun 27, 2008
Typical DOT. I agree people drive WAY too fast there, the speed limit is 55 which was way too fast on a stretch with no barriers. Oh 50% of drivers went 60mph? Oh that is shocking, I'd say that sounds low.

So because there was never a realistic speed limit, and because suffolk police who I have to say in all the years I've driven that stretch were no where to be seen, we have spend money that the DOT thinks will solve the problem?

The very same DOT thinks that the problem with the parkways has nothing to do with design as well. I recall a DOT engineer saying it was not due to poor road design that there is so much traffic and accidents on the parkways. Here is some common sense that the DOT seems to lack. You have a 55mph speed limit, lets just say for this example people actually do that speed. Then you get to one of the parkway offramps that is a hairpin turn with little, if any, exit ramp and have to go from 55 to 20mph. That is not due to poor design? There are so many instances where it is clear there needs to be a long exit ramp or entrance ramp or the overpasses need to be replaced to allow more lanes under or over. But the DOT says this is not the case?

Then throw in over-sized SUVs that can barely make a turn on a side street into the mix, small school buses and every other oversized vehicle on the parkway and the DOT cannot figure out why there are problems?

Maybe the DOT needs to hire Engineers with common sense as it seems to be lacking in every sense.

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