Palin Says Obama's Health Care Plan I...

Palin Says Obama's Health Care Plan Is 'Evil'

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Manhattan, KS

#1 Aug 10, 2009
If anyone has eldery relatives... You need to READ the health bill... It will scare you to death.... Below is from Sarah Palin.

As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is dropping, and we’re saying not just no, but hell no!

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.

Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion.

Rep. Michele Bachmann highlighted the Orwellian thinking of the president’s health care advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of the White House chief of staff, in a floor speech to the House of Representatives. I commend her for being a voice for the most precious members of our society, our children and our seniors.

We must step up and engage in this most crucial debate. Nationalizing our health care system is a point of no return for government interference in the lives of its citizens. If we go down this path, there will be no turning back. Ronald Reagan once wrote,“Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.” Let’s stop and think and make our voices heard before it’s too late.

- Sarah Palin
mountain mama

United States

#2 Aug 19, 2009
If anyone has any sense, they will read the facts and not rely on pathetic Palin's nitwit propaganda.

Facts here:
Great Read

Manhattan, KS

#3 Aug 20, 2009
mountain mama wrote:
If anyone has any sense, they will read the facts and not rely on pathetic Palin's nitwit propaganda.
Facts here:
You are a very unhappy person aren't you? I can tell by reading your post on this forum. Why are you so bitter?? Why do you have to call Palin nitwit? Because she is everything you will NEVER be? Keep drinking the Obama's socialist kool aide
Great Read

Manhattan, KS

#4 Aug 20, 2009
mountain mama wrote:
If anyone has any sense, they will read the facts and not rely on pathetic Palin's nitwit propaganda.
Facts here:
Indeed, a detailed analysis of the Democrats’ government takeover of health care finds that small businesses and their employees don’t fare well under the legislation. Here are just a few examples:

Page 155-157; Section 321– This section imposes fines of $100 per employee per day on employers who do not offer a level of health coverage that is “government-approved”(employer s would pay this fine every day until the oversight is corrected). This means that fines of up to $500,000 can be imposed on employers who make an honest mistake, thinking they had provided what the government deemed “sufficient” coverage.
Page 189; Section 421 (b)(2)– Under the bill, small businesses could receive subsidies to cover a portion of their health care costs. However, to receive a full subsidy, the average employee income must be below $20,000 and have fewer than 10 employees. This creates a perverse incentive to keep wages low and to not hire new workers.
Page 150; Section 313 – The bill includes a “small business exclusion” from the eight percent payroll tax, but the definition of small business in the bill leaves a large number of small businesses subject to the full eight percent tax. In fact, on average, small businesses with as few as 12 employees would be subject to a new payroll tax through the bill if they could not afford to provide coverage. Worse, the bill does not index to inflation the amounts which trigger the “small business exemption” meaning that Democrats have built into the bill a mechanism that capture and subject more small employers to the eight percent tax over time.
Page 198; Section 441 – If the government does not realize savings the authors of the bill claim will occur – even though congressional scorekeepers did not project any savings from these provisions – then the national small business surtax is automatically increased.
Pages 144-149; Section 312 – The bill mandates that employer contributions cannot come through salary reductions. Under this section, employers have to make a minimum contribution toward the health benefits plan premium for both full-time and less than full-time employees. By the terms of this provision, they cannot take that contribution out of an employee’s salary. That defies logic since any contribution that an employer makes toward a health care premium is necessarily money it cannot pay to its employees in salary. This will lead substantial layoffs as employers face this de facto tax.
Small businesses are the engine of our economy. Instead of punishing them with more taxes and mandates, shouldn’t Washington be encouraging them to create more jobs and provide their employees and their families access to more affordable health care?
Great Read

Manhattan, KS

#5 Aug 31, 2009
You think the insurance companies are operating free and independent? The government's telling them what to cover. I’ve had people tell me that work in the insurance business; they can't sell the policies they want to sell. The government tells them what they have to insure, either the federal government or state governments. There are so many mandates now in health care that insurance companies have to insure and if they're going to have to insure hangnails, I'm telling you, everybody is going to get a hangnail. If they're going to have to insure things that everybody's gonna get, then by God, folks, it's going to cost everybody a lot of money! They already pay out 85 to 90% of their claims. The government doesn't come close to doing this.

So the more government forces insurance companies to insure, the more the risk goes up,'cause they gotta pay out all these things that normally they wouldn't and then that's just going to drive the cost up. You're looking at the wrong middleman here when you want to get rid of the insurance companies. You gotta wake up on this. And I want you to think about this, too. "What Health Insurance Insures -- A quick question. What does health insurance insure? This is not a trick question. If you think health insurance insures your health, you're wrong. Health insurance does not insure your health. "What's it for?... Health insurance cannot possibly insure your health. In fact,'Health care insurance, formerly called 'medical insurance,' is merely an instrument of neutralizing risk. Financial risk, that is.' Not health risks.

Think about your can insurance… If insurance had to pay 80%(If you have a co-pay of 20%) of every oil change, tune up, tires, your everyday up keep... Do you think your car insurance would go up? It is simple economics.
jeff davis

Pineville, MO

#6 Dec 15, 2009
two undeclared, never ending wars and the wedding parties in pakistan blown up on a weekly basis. and the health care issue is what upsets americans. what selfish children we have become. your country is finished thanks to dumbasses like you people that think there is a difference between the criminal democrats or criminal republicans. you deserve to be euthanized at sixty for the world you are handing the future generations that will have to live with the consequences of your utter and complete stupidity. you should only hope that they act humanely, which they probably won't.

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