minister arrested?
lunacee

United States

#276 May 26, 2012
Hmmm - guess a good rant just makes one feel better- I hope so!!To Seriously- do keep is posted!
Wondering

Kansas City, MO

#277 May 28, 2012
I am guessing nothing new has happened with this in awhile since it has been some time since anyone posted anything. Is he still in jail? I did notice he deleted his face book account? Maybe the person who commented on the little African boys looking scared to death had something to do with the deletion?
Is his wife still supporting him?
sky scream

United States

#279 May 29, 2012
yes......thank God. Pray for justice to be done. Hearing Thurs.
Wondering

Kansas City, MO

#280 May 30, 2012
What is the hearing for are they deciding whether to go to trial or not? I know the last hearing was to determine whether his bond should be lowered or as least I think that was the reason. What is the reason this time? Does anyone know?

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#281 May 30, 2012
Wondering wrote:
What is the hearing for are they deciding whether to go to trial or not? I know the last hearing was to determine whether his bond should be lowered or as least I think that was the reason. What is the reason this time? Does anyone know?
The up coming hearing is a status hearing, asked for by the defense. The preliminary hearing, not trial, will be June 27 starting at 9:00 AM.
Wondering

Kansas City, MO

#282 May 30, 2012
girlattheflowershop wrote:
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The up coming hearing is a status hearing, asked for by the defense. The preliminary hearing, not trial, will be June 27 starting at 9:00 AM.
What does that mean? Sorry I am not very up on how the courts work, never had a reason to be. Does the DA tell them what evidence they have? or what?
sky scream

United States

#283 May 31, 2012
anyone read last night's reporter? One word .......sickening.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#284 May 31, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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What does that mean? Sorry I am not very up on how the courts work, never had a reason to be. Does the DA tell them what evidence they have? or what?
I pulled this answer off google:
The Status Hearing is an informal discussion between the Judge, the prosecution and the defendant about the case. After considering the case against you, you can decide whether to change your plea or to continue with your not guilty plea.

At a Status Hearing you:

* have the chance to discuss the charges against you, with the Police Prosecutor and the Judge,including anything you may disagree with.
* learn what the Police say has happened and why they think you are guilty.
* can ask questions about anything you don’t understand.
What can happen at a Status Hearing?

* The charges may be changed or withdrawn.
* You can change your plea.
* You can ask the Judge what the likely sentence would be (e.g. fine, community work, prison). Note: this will be an indication only and is not binding on another Judge at a later time.
* You can decide to continue to plead not guilty. The case will then be adjourned for a defended hearing.
* You do not have to tell anyone about your defence, unless you choose to do so.

If you change your plea to guilty:

* You may be sentenced at the Status Hearing or you may have to come back to Court on another day for sentencing, if the Judge needs more information, such as a pre-sentence report.

If you still want to defend your case (plead not guilty):

* The case will be adjourned to a defended hearing, where a Judge will hear your case and decide whether you are guilty or not guilty.

Sorry it is so long but this is what I found.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#285 May 31, 2012
Also, the Independence Reporter had an article about a lawsuit filed by a mother of an alleged victim. She is suing the Church Elders, and Steve according to the article. The article also went into detail about what happened to one of the boys. It mentions he faced physical trauma and injuries which still cause issues. My God, what did this man do to these boys?? It is gut wrenching...
no comment

United States

#286 May 31, 2012
girlattheflowershop wrote:
Also, the Independence Reporter had an article about a lawsuit filed by a mother of an alleged victim. She is suing the Church Elders, and Steve according to the article. The article also went into detail about what happened to one of the boys. It mentions he faced physical trauma and injuries which still cause issues. My God, what did this man do to these boys?? It is gut wrenching...
From what I understand, if you knew, you would not ever think this man is innocent. Praying for the family. It would be a blessing if he just admitted it and go straight to prison so the family would not have to endure the trial.
Wondering

Kansas City, MO

#287 May 31, 2012
sky scream wrote:
anyone read last night's reporter? One word .......sickening.
I don't live in Independence...please share what was in the reporter!
Wondering

Kansas City, MO

#288 May 31, 2012
girlattheflowershop wrote:
<quoted text>
I pulled this answer off google:
The Status Hearing is an informal discussion between the Judge, the prosecution and the defendant about the case. After considering the case against you, you can decide whether to change your plea or to continue with your not guilty plea.
At a Status Hearing you:
* have the chance to discuss the charges against you, with the Police Prosecutor and the Judge,including anything you may disagree with.
* learn what the Police say has happened and why they think you are guilty.
* can ask questions about anything you don’t understand.
What can happen at a Status Hearing?
* The charges may be changed or withdrawn.
* You can change your plea.
* You can ask the Judge what the likely sentence would be (e.g. fine, community work, prison). Note: this will be an indication only and is not binding on another Judge at a later time.
* You can decide to continue to plead not guilty. The case will then be adjourned for a defended hearing.
* You do not have to tell anyone about your defence, unless you choose to do so.
If you change your plea to guilty:
* You may be sentenced at the Status Hearing or you may have to come back to Court on another day for sentencing, if the Judge needs more information, such as a pre-sentence report.
If you still want to defend your case (plead not guilty):
* The case will be adjourned to a defended hearing, where a Judge will hear your case and decide whether you are guilty or not guilty.
Sorry it is so long but this is what I found.
Thanks for the info...I can't believe I didn't think to google it!
Also thanks for letting us know about the article. I posted the last comment before I saw what you posted.(I didn't go to the next page).
It is a sad situation. Sure hope justice prevails!
Just Sayin

Coffeyville, KS

#290 May 31, 2012
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't live in Independence...please share what was in the reporter!
The article said the elders of the church are being sued because the Mother suing went to one of them and told them what had happened and the elders continued to allow him to have close and private contact with the children during church sessions. My own opinion on this one is, yes the elders should be held to a certain level of responsibility, however the Mother should have pulled her child as far from that church as she could. The first allegation on Steve was brought to everyone's attention on the board way back in April of 2010. Why did she continue to go?
Curious

Kansas City, MO

#291 May 31, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
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The article said the elders of the church are being sued because the Mother suing went to one of them and told them what had happened and the elders continued to allow him to have close and private contact with the children during church sessions. My own opinion on this one is, yes the elders should be held to a certain level of responsibility, however the Mother should have pulled her child as far from that church as she could. The first allegation on Steve was brought to everyone's attention on the board way back in April of 2010. Why did she continue to go?
I agree that the leadership of the church should take some responsibilty for this situation whether he is guilty or not.
They obviously hired him knowing he was let go from his former church with like allegations! I get it, they are a church and have to be forgiving and trusting, and apparently charges were never filed for the incident in the previous church. But when it comes to children I feel one cannot be too trusting. I wonder did the congregation know of this allegation prior to voting to hire him? If they were not told about his reason for leaving his last church, then they were blindly lead by the Elders.
And yes, I agree that Mother should have ran as fast as should could to get away from that church once she felt like something was wrong and her child could be in danger...but who knows what she was thinking or feeling and hind sight is 20/20!
Does anyone know what happened at the hearing today?
Need help

United States

#292 May 31, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
The article said the elders of the church are being sued because the Mother suing went to one of them and told them what had happened and the elders continued to allow him to have close and private contact with the children during church sessions. My own opinion on this one is, yes the elders should be held to a certain level of responsibility, however the Mother should have pulled her child as far from that church as she could. The first allegation on Steve was brought to everyone's attention on the board way back in April of 2010. Why did she continue to go?
I agree. I am calling B.S. she knowingly allowed he child to continue to attend these sessions. Remember all these items are are accusations. Spignarelli is an ambulance chaser low moral lawyer who wins cases waving her ass in front of the judges. The child was probably abused by his uncle or father like every other child in this part of the world however they figured that they can capitalize on the celebrity status of the case. Just like the Martin case. Which will likely not even get to court. Notice there are no headlines anymore now that the other side of the coin was presented.
Educated

Wichita, KS

#293 May 31, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
The article said the elders of the church are being sued because the Mother suing went to one of them and told them what had happened and the elders continued to allow him to have close and private contact with the children during church sessions. My own opinion on this one is, yes the elders should be held to a certain level of responsibility, however the Mother should have pulled her child as far from that church as she could. The first allegation on Steve was brought to everyone's attention on the board way back in April of 2010. Why did she continue to go?
Was the mother on the board and found out then and continued to keep going to the church or was it hushed by the board? Did she continue to go to the church after she talked to the elders? I haven't seen the paper so just curious. If she continued to put her child in harms way then she should also be held accountable.
Curious

Kansas City, MO

#294 Jun 1, 2012
Need help wrote:
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I agree. I am calling B.S. she knowingly allowed he child to continue to attend these sessions. Remember all these items are are accusations. Spignarelli is an ambulance chaser low moral lawyer who wins cases waving her ass in front of the judges. The child was probably abused by his uncle or father like every other child in this part of the world however they figured that they can capitalize on the celebrity status of the case. Just like the Martin case. Which will likely not even get to court. Notice there are no headlines anymore now that the other side of the coin was presented.
I agree the Mother should have definitely stopped going to the church!!! But, the rest of your comment seems a little far fetched, why was the minister arrested and extradited to Independence? That was the Attorney Generals call? Is Spignarelli the DA? It seems to me that they must have some pretty clear cut evidence to bring him back from Oklahoma and lock him up with a huge bond? And since when did this minister achieve "celebrity status"?
need help

United States

#295 Jun 1, 2012
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree the Mother should have definitely stopped going to the church!!! But, the rest of your comment seems a little far fetched, why was the minister arrested and extradited to Independence? That was the Attorney Generals call? Is Spignarelli the DA? It seems to me that they must have some pretty clear cut evidence to bring him back from Oklahoma and lock him up with a huge bond? And since when did this minister achieve "celebrity status"?
want to bet they have clear cut evidence. The civil suit was initiated out of greed and seeking fame. A civil suit is usually not brought before the criminal case has concluded. I bet the civil suit filing isn't even the one that brought criminal charges. As I told you I hear the reputation of the law firm is not good. We need the names so we can follow up on this case.
OMG

Kansas City, MO

#296 Jun 1, 2012
need help wrote:
<quoted text>
want to bet they have clear cut evidence. The civil suit was initiated out of greed and seeking fame. A civil suit is usually not brought before the criminal case has concluded. I bet the civil suit filing isn't even the one that brought criminal charges. As I told you I hear the reputation of the law firm is not good. We need the names so we can follow up on this case.
I think I am confused? Is the law firm you are talking about the firm that is representing the Minister? It sounded to me in the post I responded to from that you were on the side of the minister was being set up that an uncle or father did the abusing? Or is that firm representing the family of the child and you think the family is shady? Sorry I guess I just wasn't following you very well. In my opinion, it seems like they must have a lot of evidence against the minister since like I stated before the bond being so high and the fact he was extradited. I guess we will see how it all plays out in court. My sympathy is for the children.
need help

United States

#297 Jun 1, 2012
OMG wrote:
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I think I am confused? Is the law firm you are talking about the firm that is representing the Minister? It sounded to me in the post I responded to from that you were on the side of the minister was being set up that an uncle or father did the abusing? Or is that firm representing the family of the child and you think the family is shady? Sorry I guess I just wasn't following you very well. In my opinion, it seems like they must have a lot of evidence against the minister since like I stated before the bond being so high and the fact he was extradited. I guess we will see how it all plays out in court. My sympathy is for the children.
If this woman had a child that she knew was being abused and continued to allow her child to attend the church services. Why did she let the child continue to be abused. Then filed a civil suit now. Did she approve of the actions of the minister? Why did she wait till now to file it? This has nothing to do with the criminal case and the extradition. Which the state will prosecute against the minister. This civil suit has nothing to do with the criminal suit. This can and I am saying is a totally different set of people just trying to collect on the notoriety of the case.

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