Should Natchitoches ban alcohol+be a dry parish?

Created by Against Drunk Driving on Jul 12, 2009

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big boy

Norway

#1 Jul 12, 2009
Who cares, it won't stop anything!
We will just get our alcohol from another parish!
In the 70's when Winn Parish was dry there were several liquor stores located on the parish line!
Last Chance!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Jan 09

Natchitoches

#2 Jul 12, 2009
We should legalize all drugs. How hard is it to see that when you make something illegal you are just giving money to criminals and making criminals out of people who just want to get high/drunk?
john

United States

#3 Jul 12, 2009
are you freaking serious????? we need more stores out in the parish that can sell!!!!!!!!
Against Drunk Driving

Natchitoches, LA

#4 Jul 12, 2009
big boy wrote:
Who cares, it won't stop anything!
We will just get our alcohol from another parish!
In the 70's when Winn Parish was dry there were several liquor stores located on the parish line!
Last Chance!!!!!!!!!!
That made it harder for people to get alcohol! So that means people didn't drink as much! So there.
Drahthaar

Powder Springs, GA

#5 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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That made it harder for people to get alcohol! So that means people didn't drink as much! So there.
No, they just bought it in bulk. You are not going to stop people from drinking. Prohibition failed, remember?
Against Drunk Driving

Natchitoches, LA

#6 Jul 12, 2009
Drahthaar wrote:
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No, they just bought it in bulk. You are not going to stop people from drinking. Prohibition failed, remember?
Prohibition didn't fail.

The Prohibition Amendment was not enforced by the Republicans or Democrats. Incredibly, supervision of this new law was entrusted to Andrew Mellon, a major distillery stockholder. Enforcement agents were deliberately underpaid to make them susceptible to bribery.

In spite of this deliberate policy of non-enforcement, Prohibition:

• Reduced the fatality rate from cirrhosis of the liver by more than 50 percent.

• Reduced the consumption of absolute alcohol by almost 70 percent.

• Closed down most alcoholic clinics and hospital wards for lack of business.

• Greatly reduced the crime rate and prison population.

• Increased bank deposits from $15.8 million in 1920 to $28.9 billion in 1924.

• Increased assets of savings and loan associations from 2.03 billion 1920 to 7.08 billion in 1929.

• Thomas Alva Edison, the great inventor, said in 1930,“I feel that Prohibition is the greatest experiment yet made to benefit man.”

• President Charles W. Elliot of Harvard University vigorously opposed the adoption of Prohibition, but in 1922 he said:“Evidence has accumulated on every hand that Prohibition has promoted public health, public happiness and industrial efficiency. Prohibition is actually sapping the terrible forces of disease, poverty, crime, and vice.”

Isa. 5:11,“Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!”

Isa. 5:22,“Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink.”

Isa. 5:23,“Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!”

Hab 2:15 “Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest
him drunken also.”

People who drink need help. Alcohol destroys families and communities. Getting rid of alcohol gets rid of a LOT of crime.

http://www.aa.org/...
Drahthaar

Powder Springs, GA

#7 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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Prohibition didn't fail.
The Prohibition Amendment was not enforced by the Republicans or Democrats. Incredibly, supervision of this new law was entrusted to Andrew Mellon, a major distillery stockholder. Enforcement agents were deliberately underpaid to make them susceptible to bribery.
In spite of this deliberate policy of non-enforcement, Prohibition:
• Reduced the fatality rate from cirrhosis of the liver by more than 50 percent.
• Reduced the consumption of absolute alcohol by almost 70 percent.
• Closed down most alcoholic clinics and hospital wards for lack of business.
• Greatly reduced the crime rate and prison population.
• Increased bank deposits from $15.8 million in 1920 to $28.9 billion in 1924.
• Increased assets of savings and loan associations from 2.03 billion 1920 to 7.08 billion in 1929.
• Thomas Alva Edison, the great inventor, said in 1930,“I feel that Prohibition is the greatest experiment yet made to benefit man.”
• President Charles W. Elliot of Harvard University vigorously opposed the adoption of Prohibition, but in 1922 he said:“Evidence has accumulated on every hand that Prohibition has promoted public health, public happiness and industrial efficiency. Prohibition is actually sapping the terrible forces of disease, poverty, crime, and vice.”
Isa. 5:11,“Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!”
Isa. 5:22,“Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink.”
Isa. 5:23,“Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!”
Hab 2:15 “Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest
him drunken also.”
People who drink need help. Alcohol destroys families and communities. Getting rid of alcohol gets rid of a LOT of crime.
http://www.aa.org/...
It will never happen.
Fabian Choate

United States

#8 Jul 12, 2009
Why? Why make this parish dry? It only encourages folks to break the law. A law that would take money to enforce. Myself and our family do not drink, not because of religious convictions. We just do not care to consume alcohol. We just hope that people will not drive under the influence and be moderate with their drinking. A dry parish is surely not the answer to problems.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#9 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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That made it harder for people to get alcohol! So that means people didn't drink as much! So there.
No it didn't. But quite a few people died on that highway because of it.
curious

Lacombe, LA

#10 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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That made it harder for people to get alcohol! So that means people didn't drink as much! So there.
You do understand that people would drive to the store to get it, don't you?
Against Drunk Driving

Natchitoches, LA

#11 Jul 12, 2009
Make it illegal and people can't drive anywhere to get it! Alcohol kills and destroys families. It should be illegal!
big boy

Norway

#12 Jul 12, 2009
curious wrote:
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You do understand that people would drive to the store to get it, don't you?
And be soo thirsty, that they will start drinking on the way back to town! And the parish line is about 30 miles in any direction you choose! Hell why you are at it lets stop selling rubbers, like that would stop something also!
Drahthaar

Powder Springs, GA

#13 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
Make it illegal and people can't drive anywhere to get it! Alcohol kills and destroys families. It should be illegal!
Just because you don't drink, that does not give you the right to enforce your "moral code" on everybody else.
I don't like Lima Beans. They taste like shit and give people gas. I think they should be illegal!
Against Drunk Driving

Natchitoches, LA

#14 Jul 12, 2009
Drahthaar wrote:
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Just because you don't drink, that does not give you the right to enforce your "moral code" on everybody else.
I don't like Lima Beans. They taste like shit and give people gas. I think they should be illegal!
Lima beans don't kill people. Alcohol destroys peoples lives and kills so it needs to be illegal!
Alisha

Atlanta, GA

#15 Jul 12, 2009
I agree for the most part with Drathaar and Big Boy all it does is make the city loose money and cause more drunks on the highway longer distances which causes more accidents. Just because things are against the law does not stop people from doing them so you might as well make it legal.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#16 Jul 12, 2009
Fast food kills people..should we outlaw Mcdonalds?
Drahthaar

Powder Springs, GA

#17 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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Lima beans don't kill people. Alcohol destroys peoples lives and kills so it needs to be illegal!
Wild Lima bean poisoning: Wild Lima beans are a legume similar to the common lima beans which are considered safe to eat. The wild lima contains much higher levels of a chemical called cyanogen than the common lima bean. The cyanogen can cause symptoms and if sufficient quantities are eaten, death can result. Some people are so sensitive to cyanogen that eating even the relatively safe common lima bean may result in symptoms including death.
Alisha

Atlanta, GA

#18 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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Lima beans don't kill people. Alcohol destroys peoples lives and kills so it needs to be illegal!
so do drugs which are illegal but it doesn't stop people that want them to stop doing them and they still destroy peoples lives and kills, it's like telling you not to go outside again if you really want to then you will even if it's against the law

“Git some!”

Since: Jun 09

Natchitoches, LA

#19 Jul 12, 2009
Against Drunk Driving wrote:
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Prohibition didn't fail.
The Prohibition Amendment was not enforced by the Republicans or Democrats. Incredibly, supervision of this new law was entrusted to Andrew Mellon, a major distillery stockholder. Enforcement agents were deliberately underpaid to make them susceptible to bribery.
In spite of this deliberate policy of non-enforcement, Prohibition:
• Reduced the fatality rate from cirrhosis of the liver by more than 50 percent.
• Reduced the consumption of absolute alcohol by almost 70 percent.
• Closed down most alcoholic clinics and hospital wards for lack of business.
• Greatly reduced the crime rate and prison population.
• Increased bank deposits from $15.8 million in 1920 to $28.9 billion in 1924.
• Increased assets of savings and loan associations from 2.03 billion 1920 to 7.08 billion in 1929.
• Thomas Alva Edison, the great inventor, said in 1930,“I feel that Prohibition is the greatest experiment yet made to benefit man.”
• President Charles W. Elliot of Harvard University vigorously opposed the adoption of Prohibition, but in 1922 he said:“Evidence has accumulated on every hand that Prohibition has promoted public health, public happiness and industrial efficiency. Prohibition is actually sapping the terrible forces of disease, poverty, crime, and vice.”
Isa. 5:11,“Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!”
Isa. 5:22,“Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink.”
Isa. 5:23,“Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!”
Hab 2:15 “Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest
him drunken also.”
People who drink need help. Alcohol destroys families and communities. Getting rid of alcohol gets rid of a LOT of crime.
http://www.aa.org/...
Come on! You can't be THAT stupid! The '30s was the golden age of violent crime in our nation's history. And why? Because prohibition turned small-time racketeers like Al Capone and Bugsy Segal into infamous crimelords, just as famous nearly a century after they first rose to power. Crooked cops, driveby shootings, massacres - all because the government made the sale of alcohol illegal. Prohibition created this nation's fascination with violent criminals and gangs that is still immulated today by dope dealers who aspire to be the next Capone. Interesting enough, the prohibition against marijuana is failing just as monumentally as the one against alcohol. Decriminalize it and watch the violence subscede. You're never going to stop people from drinking or smoking. The two have been around for centuries and will be around until the end of time.

Since: Jun 08

San Angelo, TX

#20 Jul 12, 2009
another radical zealot wanting to eliminate something based on the irresponsibility of a minority...the majority of people enjoy alcohol responsibly and therefore contribute to nearly all economic factors you slant in your post above...
If you are against drunk driving, then I applaud you, however, to banish an entire industry that provides jobs, health care, retirement simply because YOU are against it is no more realistic than some other posts above (I too hate Lima beans LOL)...Why stop at alcohol? Driving is a danger to society when done irresponsibly? Should we ban it too? Imagine the statistics one can post if wanting to argue against using automobiles?
Prescription drugs create more harm than alcohol and can, if statistically manipulated as you've done, create the same "economic doom"...
You have no right to cite sources from nearly 80 years ago as fact in today's society, economically or morally.
Alcohol sales are taxed and regulated...much like anything in life, in excess, it creates hazards, but warrants nothing of what you're ranting about...For every statistic you try and use for an argument, there are those, equally capable of spinning fact and manipulating truth against.
Words like "a lot" do not give merit nor fact to your "crime" statement either...other than DUI, and an occasional bar-room brawl, what crimes do people that drink commit that causes you to feel "a lot" etc?
You quote a bunch of bible versus that pretty much only communicate those that drink in excess, which is the real problem with alcohol.
Obviously you've had a bad experience, but to cast all in the same shadow is just wrong.

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