Football coaches at Natchitoches Central

Football coaches at Natchitoches Central

Created by Ocho Cinco on Oct 5, 2007

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Alumni Chief Mom

Natchitoches, LA

#82 Oct 2, 2008
I am the mother of an alumni chief who played football and completely put his heart into it. He was disappointed on a weekly basis as well.(And yes, it's a given that life is full of disappointments. We all know that.) I understand what Natchitoches Football Mom is saying because the seniors now were the sophomores they focused on when my son was a senior. When is the future the present? And why should Natchitoches Football Mom be ashamed for speaking on behalf of kids she obviously cares for?
WHAT

Natchitoches, LA

#83 Oct 2, 2008
Senior Dad wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you 100%. I have had the exact same conversation with the same 8-10 players that you are talking about. They are having to feed off of each other right now to keep going. They are not getting any support from the younger players or coaching staff in respect to the leadership that they are trying to establish. The coaching staff should see this and make the corrections. If they don't, it will continue this way year after year. You have to be able to be led before you can lead.
These seniors are also tired of being the ones that receive all of the criticism from the coaching staff, when it is the younger players making the mistakes and not executing most of the time. Has anyone that goes to the games or practices ever seen the soph. QB jumped on and yelled at for throwing the ball up for grabs as often as he does or not being able to find the open receivers. This is just an example: I am not trying to pick on this kid at all,it just so happens that he plays the position that is watched the most. He may be a good player in a few years, he has that potential.
Wake up Coach and keep your foundation together,it is crumbling beneath your feet.
So are your seniors taking care of being a leader in the classroom - do they have 3.0s or better? Do your seniors take care of being a leader outside the school setting - not drinking, smoking, partying, etc.?
Are your seniors giving encouragement to the younger guys on the team, or assuming that since they are seniors they should be looked up to?
No one is GIVEN a leadership position. You may be given a position from which you can lead. You step up and lead. And if you aren't leading off the field, you sure can't lead on the field.
Of course I don't know your situation. I am military and that's just the way it is with leaders and being led. True leaders will be followed.
Senior Dad

United States

#84 Oct 2, 2008
WHAT wrote:
<quoted text>
So are your seniors taking care of being a leader in the classroom - do they have 3.0s or better? Do your seniors take care of being a leader outside the school setting - not drinking, smoking, partying, etc.?
Are your seniors giving encouragement to the younger guys on the team, or assuming that since they are seniors they should be looked up to?
No one is GIVEN a leadership position. You may be given a position from which you can lead. You step up and lead. And if you aren't leading off the field, you sure can't lead on the field.
Of course I don't know your situation. I am military and that's just the way it is with leaders and being led. True leaders will be followed.
yes, ALL of the above apply, and I do agree with your statement.
Alumni Chief Mom

Natchitoches, LA

#85 Oct 2, 2008
My son was all of the above too! So good kids are overlooked as they "look to the future kids" these good "future" kids better enjoy it now!
player

Amarillo, TX

#86 Oct 2, 2008
Well you guys... Interesting that everyone has the guts to get on here and say what they want to say. But you will never know how it feels to go on the feild after a big loss. To continue to pledge to a team that others don't see the talent on.

You're saying fire the coachs and fire Murphy, but I bet some of you don't have the guts to be in their positions!
Rover

United States

#87 Oct 2, 2008
player wrote:
Well you guys... Interesting that everyone has the guts to get on here and say what they want to say. But you will never know how it feels to go on the feild after a big loss. To continue to pledge to a team that others don't see the talent on.
You're saying fire the coachs and fire Murphy, but I bet some of you don't have the guts to be in their positions!
I do know how it feels to lose on the scoreboard. But, if you give all that you have on the field, you are not a loser. You are a winner, because you have guts, determination and pride to succeed. Don't quit or give up on yourself or your team. Hang in there, it will get better. We love you and are behind you. Git R Done!
Just the facts maam

Natchitoches, LA

#88 Oct 2, 2008
player wrote:
Well you guys... Interesting that everyone has the guts to get on here and say what they want to say. But you will never know how it feels to go on the feild after a big loss. To continue to pledge to a team that others don't see the talent on.
You're saying fire the coachs and fire Murphy, but I bet some of you don't have the guts to be in their positions!
Right now only one coach needs to be fired and that coach is Jimmy Adams for reasons stated in previous posts. As to the comment of having no guts to be Super, you don't know what you're talking about. I would take Murphy's job in a second and given two years could turn the mess around. There's only one problem, you have to have teaching credentials to do so. That's what is wrong with our system. They have made it so that extremely qualified people from the "outside" can't have the chance to fix the mess the "educators" have caused. It doesn't take guts to do the job, it takes a person willing to do what is right and ignore the whiners.
player

Amarillo, TX

#89 Oct 2, 2008
I understand and thanks ROVER.

Just the facts maam, I agree, but it's difficult to say what you would do if you were in a position, because it's easy to drive from the backseat.

I'm not saying that the change of Natchitoches isn't in you, but I haven't seen to many people in my lifetime do what they say they can.
quick6

Seaside, CA

#90 Oct 5, 2008
call back Jim Brunning, and coach Garret along with some of their stars like Stuart Wright, Larry hamilton,billy west, and a few others.
Down The Street

Plainview, TX

#91 Oct 5, 2008
Fire them all. Let Judge sort it out. Meanwhile, bench the seniors for the rest of the season because they are done. Hire a new coaching staff mid-season and hold them accountable for results.
Another Player

United States

#92 Oct 6, 2008
Some of you people that post on these threads have no idea what it feels like to actually be a senior and have to wake up every day knowing you have to go to practice again and the frustration that comes along with it. As a senior football player and a starter, I feel like I should express to you what it feels like to read "bench the seniors for the rest of the season."

Every day starting at 1:20pm I begin a tiring process. Get in the lockeroom. Change out. Lift weights(which might I add is getting extremely annoying), get taped, and practice for 3 hours.

Friday night rolls around and after dealing with a big loss I have to walk off the field knowing I have 2 days of happiness, and starting monday I beggin the same process over again.

I know some idiot will get on and post "well you have no heart, you dont wana put forth the effort, etc." If you choose to get that message out of what I have wrote then thats your business.

But I will be as bold and upfront as I can. We are sick. The seniors are sick to death of giving our bodies, our time, and our effort to this cause knowing that we will endup hearing negative things. I'm sick to death of being so tired that i can barely walk.

What keeps me going is coach helms. Believe it or not I give all I can because I know he is just as dissapointed as I am. And he hasn't given up so neither should I. My brothers on the team are the only other thing besides coach helms that has kept me going. The seniors have bonded together through all of this and fed off of each other. Eventhough there are days we want to throw in the towel and quit... just the thought of having the guys there on the field is enough to keep me going.

I give it my all. And my proof is that its taking all I have just to keep my head in this thing and on this team.

People are going to bask me for writing this I'm sure. I don't care. What I've wrote is the truth. I will fight until I can't fight anymore. I'm sick to death but I'm not dead just yet.
PA guy

Shreveport, LA

#93 Oct 6, 2008
well spoken. Some of us do not bash. I wear maroon on fridays and am proud to be associated with the chiefs. I am sure I have called your name over the loud speaker. Don't give up. You guys are improving. Don't worry about the haters. be the senior leader you are inside and continue to give it your all. You are becoming a man the hard way. Don't lose heart. We need you.
Just the facts maam

Natchitoches, LA

#94 Oct 6, 2008
Tough times make tough men. GO CHIEFS!
just another NCHS player

Amarillo, TX

#95 Oct 6, 2008
Well, to the senior above THANKS. I have felt this way for quite sometime.

Starting practices and workouts during the summer took dedication and heart. I didn't want to come, I could have spent all of my summer with my friends and making memories, but instead I came and fought with coach helms.

Coach Helms is a true person that I respect, even though some one you are smileing in his face and talking behind his back, he has not given up.

I'm proud of all of my senior buddies...

But understand people that it takes awhile to build a house...

Right now, we are building the foundation, when people talk about houses they never talk about how sturdy the foundation is. Understand that the outside may look good, but if it wasn't for the foundation, there would be no house.

So smart people of Natchioches, in 4 years, I can see NCHS as a top football team. Right now, many may not see it... but that's ok. Because when NCHS does become top in the state, many people will look back and say it started with the senior class of 2009.

So, for the ones that want to support us, THANK YOU VERY MUCH....

For the ones that want to talk about us, have a good life.

But when NCHS football is top in the state... don't come to the games then, because you won't be labeled as a FAN; you'll be labeled as GROUPIE....

I rest my case...

y-o-y

“first things first”

Since: Jun 08

natchitoches

#96 Oct 7, 2008
Another Player wrote:
Some of you people that post on these threads have no idea what it feels like to actually be a senior and have to wake up every day knowing you have to go to practice again and the frustration that comes along with it. As a senior football player and a starter, I feel like I should express to you what it feels like to read "bench the seniors for the rest of the season."
Every day starting at 1:20pm I begin a tiring process. Get in the lockeroom. Change out. Lift weights(which might I add is getting extremely annoying), get taped, and practice for 3 hours.
Friday night rolls around and after dealing with a big loss I have to walk off the field knowing I have 2 days of happiness, and starting monday I beggin the same process over again.
I know some idiot will get on and post "well you have no heart, you dont wana put forth the effort, etc." If you choose to get that message out of what I have wrote then thats your business.
But I will be as bold and upfront as I can. We are sick. The seniors are sick to death of giving our bodies, our time, and our effort to this cause knowing that we will endup hearing negative things. I'm sick to death of being so tired that i can barely walk.
What keeps me going is coach helms. Believe it or not I give all I can because I know he is just as dissapointed as I am. And he hasn't given up so neither should I. My brothers on the team are the only other thing besides coach helms that has kept me going. The seniors have bonded together through all of this and fed off of each other. Eventhough there are days we want to throw in the towel and quit... just the thought of having the guys there on the field is enough to keep me going.
I give it my all. And my proof is that its taking all I have just to keep my head in this thing and on this team.
People are going to bask me for writing this I'm sure. I don't care. What I've wrote is the truth. I will fight until I can't fight anymore. I'm sick to death but I'm not dead just yet.
waaa waaa!!!this post explains alot to me...when i played for nchs, l loved every second of it, just as my teamates did...we used to wear shirts under our pads that said "CHIEFS DETERMINATION"...we were DETERMINED to win..we were DETERMINED to represent this community well...we were DETERMINED that even if we lost a game, the team that beat us was gonna be feeling us the whole next week...YOU KIDS DON'T HIT ANYBODY...period...why is that???you might not have the talent to compete with every team, but dammit you can hit somebody!!!thats what we are missing...i go to every home game, but i am tired of watching players grabbing and pulling people down...HIT EM!!!
Another Player

United States

#97 Oct 7, 2008
I'll agree with the hitting. I wont disagree with you just for the point of starting an argument. Our intense does need to pick up and i believe it has over the weeks. Its fun hitting people. At the position I play I have to do more blocking and sealing than wrapping up and flatbacking people. But if I were in the position to.. you can bet your last dollar I'd do it! All we need is support. I'm "determined" to finish out and help coach helms rebuild this team. I'm not the smartest guy or best example academically but I do try to give the team what I can offer on the field.
Bumping Along

Natchitoches, LA

#98 Oct 7, 2008
I believe that was the 1995-1996 season.
Joey Ramone wrote:
Football at Nat.Central is over.Move on.Does any one remember when they had A wining season?How long ago was that?90's?I don't know.

y-o-y

“first things first”

Since: Jun 08

natchitoches

#99 Oct 7, 2008
Bumping Along wrote:
I believe that was the 1995-1996 season.
<quoted text>
i know they had winning seasons 96-99, cause i was playing then...

Since: Aug 08

Satellite Provider

#100 Oct 19, 2008
player wrote:
Well you guys... Interesting that everyone has the guts to get on here and say what they want to say. But you will never know how it feels to go on the feild after a big loss. To continue to pledge to a team that others don't see the talent on.
You're saying fire the coachs and fire Murphy, but I bet some of you don't have the guts to be in their positions!
Be realistic here player....NCHS has been losing for some time now and each season seniors/leaders deal with the same issues.

When I started playing at NCHS as a freshman, we had a very strong team, as well as my soph year. This made it so much easier for our seniors to lead....when things are going great its easy. What most people fail to realize though is that TRUE leaders step up to the reconing when things are bad, when the TEAM is horrible.

My senior year when didnt even finish at .500 and, as a senior and a Leader, I realized that we were short of talent but not Heart. Yes, I know that Heart wont win games, but at the same time, those of us who were leaders had to step up and continue to lead b/c there were guys giving 110% and we didnt want to let them down. It got so bad that we had guys actually quitting the team on away games. For many of us though, including the coaching staff, that only strengthened our resolve.

You ended your post with a challenge, basically saying that noone here has the guts to do their job (dr. murphy and the coaches), and I have a response.

I have coached for some years now and I will tell you that athletics at NCHS have been "messed up" for a while now. I am not directly attacking your coaches or dr. murphy on a personal level by any means BUT there have to be changes made. NCHS will NOT produce a competitive, much less a winning team if changes arent made from dr. murphy down to the coaching staff....PERIOD.

Ive coached in 3 different states and, by far, NCHS is the WORST school concerning athletics. Understand that I am not referring to the student/athlete only....this falls more squarely on those mentioned above
watcher

Clovis, NM

#101 Oct 20, 2008
Another Player wrote:
Some of you people that post on these threads have no idea what it feels like to actually be a senior and have to wake up every day knowing you have to go to practice again and the frustration that comes along with it. As a senior football player and a starter, I feel like I should express to you what it feels like to read "bench the seniors for the rest of the season."
Every day starting at 1:20pm I begin a tiring process. Get in the lockeroom. Change out. Lift weights(which might I add is getting extremely annoying), get taped, and practice for 3 hours.
Friday night rolls around and after dealing with a big loss I have to walk off the field knowing I have 2 days of happiness, and starting monday I beggin the same process over again.
I know some idiot will get on and post "well you have no heart, you dont wana put forth the effort, etc." If you choose to get that message out of what I have wrote then thats your business.
But I will be as bold and upfront as I can. We are sick. The seniors are sick to death of giving our bodies, our time, and our effort to this cause knowing that we will endup hearing negative things. I'm sick to death of being so tired that i can barely walk.
What keeps me going is coach helms. Believe it or not I give all I can because I know he is just as dissapointed as I am. And he hasn't given up so neither should I. My brothers on the team are the only other thing besides coach helms that has kept me going. The seniors have bonded together through all of this and fed off of each other. Eventhough there are days we want to throw in the towel and quit... just the thought of having the guys there on the field is enough to keep me going.
I give it my all. And my proof is that its taking all I have just to keep my head in this thing and on this team.
People are going to bask me for writing this I'm sure. I don't care. What I've wrote is the truth. I will fight until I can't fight anymore. I'm sick to death but I'm not dead just yet.
You have a more heart,soul, and courage than John Curtis, Evangel, and West Monroe put together.
Don't let the bastards where you down.
Your spirit is what real champions are made of.
That's not cheap rhetoric. It's fact.
I hope your senior class knows courage every time you walk by.
Go Chiefs!!!

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