Bill: Mandatory Paternity Tests Befor...

Bill: Mandatory Paternity Tests Before Birth Certificates Issued

There are 90 comments on the NewsChannel5.com Nashville story from Mar 6, 2008, titled Bill: Mandatory Paternity Tests Before Birth Certificates Issued. In it, NewsChannel5.com Nashville reports that:

State Rep. G. A. Hardaway is backing a bill requiring a paternity test performed on all babies before their fathers' names are listed on birth certificates.

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Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#21 Mar 20, 2008
JOHN wrote:
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OK we get it ... obviously you are bitter and hate women. Seek therapy, man.
Hey John,

Why do you think men are bitter and hate women? This is the same nonsense that comes out of special interest groups (the feminists). I believe its women who are bitter because they are told to get their act together and stop defrauding and lying to children and men who are not the biological father. You need therapy!
Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#22 Mar 20, 2008
Anonymous wrote:
I hope this bill doesn't pass. It is an insult to all women. An alternative would be to single out the women who provide the wrong paternal information for the birth certificate and deal with them accordingly.
This is, yet, another thing that raises the cost of living and negatively impacts the poor much more than those who are better off.
It's an insult to women? Oh please...what about the thousands of children defrauded and innocent men being lied to by women who get away? The real insult is that we allow women to cover up their own repulsive behavior by using the legal system. These women don't care about the child; if they did they'd be honest. Too many women are lying to the man they are with, and the child. Mandatory DNA testing will put an end to this nonsense!
Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#23 Mar 20, 2008
Alice wrote:
My one question is, what happens to a couple who has had to use a sperm donor to conceive? Can the husband still be listed as the father automatically or would he have to go through the complicated and expensive process adoption? This bill seems like it would discriminate against faithful couples with fertility problems.
Alice, it wouldn't effect them as the couple has agreed (the man and woman has agreed) to be father and mother to the child by using a sperm donor. So the guy is accepting this agreement from the begining.
Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#24 Mar 20, 2008
joy wrote:
I'm a married woman currently trying to get pregnant. I'm not offended by the concept, after all faithful wives would have nothing to hide. My question is more of why? If it's for child support issues, then a paternity test can be done through those proceedings. It just seems to set up a lot of potential for mistust and added cost.
Joy, if you are so honest then why do you worry? This law will protect innocent men and children from being deceived by women who are unfaithful! He's not targeting women like you. If 1 in 3 women are doing this to children then it's a huge issue and it's time to end the fraudulent ways women behave.
Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#25 Mar 20, 2008
Roy wrote:
This proposal is an insult to all faithful to their spouses. Seems to me it's just another Democrat hiding a desire to raise funds for the state (or its contractors) and hiding it in that old mantra of "what's best for the children".
If there's ever an actual need to prove paternity, tests can be ordered by the court, and no man thinking he's not the father would refuse a paternity test if it meant getting let off the hook for years of payments.
And for that matter, any woman forcing a man - who turns out to not be the father - to take a paternity test, should have to pay the cost of that test - not the man, and certainly not the court (which of course means the taxpayer).
Roy, are you so blind? There are women who hide the truth from the child and the father for years before the guy she’s with realized (and the child) that he's not the father.

Paternity tests can be ordered, but there's a time limit. When the child bonds the guy will have difficulty getting out of parenting. Also, the State will not allow the wronged man to recover any child support paid during this time.

Mandatory DNA testing will eliminate all this nonsense from the beginning. Everyone will be protected.
Rick

Nanaimo, Canada

#26 Mar 20, 2008
Melissa wrote:
Having to have a paternity test before the fathers name goes on the birth certificate is an insult to those of us who are faithful to our companions whether we are married or not. If a person has any morals then they will reveal the truth to their child if the man listed is not the biological father. Revealing the biological father in some instances could even cause more damage to the child if the child is a result of rape. If you were 16 years old, would you want to know that your father was a raptist or a murderer? I wouldn't. My sixteen year old daughters' biological father left me when I was only 2 months pregnant denying her. I did not have his name put on the birth certificate but it is listed as unknown. When taking him to court for child support, a paternity test was done and proved that he was the father. Her birth certificate still says unknown but I told her who he is and she met him for the first time a year ago when his father was in the hospital dying. He has made no attempt to contact her since and she says that it doesn't matter because mu husband is her dad because he raised her from the time she was 2. Paternity test should not be made mandatory except in the case of child support.
OH! Enough with the rants of honesty. 1 out of 3 women (according to recent research) are being unfaithful and having children by other men. If you are so honest then there's nothing to worry. It doesn't surprise me why so many women are offended. They have had the law allow them to defraud innocent men and children for years. Now a new law will hold them and the real father accountable for creating a child. Why should a man who's not the biological father be held responsible to pay for a child? Women should be ashamed of this repulsive behavior. How could you claim that it's acceptable if a woman has any morals to reveal who the father is only to the child? How convenient to hide the truth from the guy you are with. In cases of rape, Law enforcement will have the criminal put in jail so why do you bring this issue to light? It's clear that you are giving excuses for women to continue this nonsense. Mandatory DNA testing is a must to protect our children and innocent men.
JOHN

Nashville, TN

#27 Mar 21, 2008
Rick wrote:
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Hey John,
Why do you think men are bitter and hate women? This is the same nonsense that comes out of special interest groups (the feminists). I believe its women who are bitter because they are told to get their act together and stop defrauding and lying to children and men who are not the biological father. You need therapy!
Ummm ... that was a pointed response to "just candid" who uses every opportunity to rant against women- even if it's an animal rights comment thread. Overly zealous men (or women) who take every opportunity to degrade the opposite sex as a whole need therapy, man. There's good mixed in with the bad all over.

Since: Feb 08

NoWheresville USA

#28 Mar 21, 2008
I think if the man (married or not) questions the paternity then I agree. But to outright perform this test on families who are not questioning paternity it's a violation of privacy and just a good excuse for getting a copy of everyones DNA. It's about time guys have a win, because there are women who will and do accuse men of being the father when they know very well it could be someone else also. But I don't agree on all baby's, not unless paternity is questioned.
just candid

Nashville, TN

#29 Mar 21, 2008
JOHN wrote:
<quoted text>
OK we get it ... obviously you are bitter and hate women. Seek therapy, man.
I do not hate women.I hate the idea of women getting pregnant and making the wrong man pay child support or lying to the man by telling him it is his child.
just candid

Nashville, TN

#30 Mar 21, 2008
JOHN wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm ... that was a pointed response to "just candid" who uses every opportunity to rant against women- even if it's an animal rights comment thread. Overly zealous men (or women) who take every opportunity to degrade the opposite sex as a whole need therapy, man. There's good mixed in with the bad all over.
I use every opportunity to speak up for men's rights and women accepting accountabilty for their actions.http://news.mensactivi sm.org/

Since: Sep 07

Arlington, VA

#31 Mar 21, 2008
a mom wrote:
I agree that every baby and father should be tested. There are far too many women having babies and not knowing or sayng it is one mans and it is really anothers. It is not right to anyone. Plus why should the non-bio father pay child support for years and then something happens he finds out the kid isn't his it really this guys, she knew, never said, it just not right.
A mom, I have to say that in most cases where that takes place, the father actually knows or at least suspects that the child is not theirs. As to the child support and finding out that the child is not his, he then has a good case for suing the woman for all that child support back or suing the ACTUAL father of the child.
Also, a good percentage of the time when a person is going for child support, a judge will order a paternity test nowadays to make sure that the child actually belongs to the man in question.

Since: Sep 07

Arlington, VA

#32 Mar 21, 2008
just candid wrote:
<quoted text>I do not hate women.I hate the idea of women getting pregnant and making the wrong man pay child support or lying to the man by telling him it is his child.
You aren't the only one, just candid. I hate that as well, because it seems that a lot of women who I know have done that.
My one cousin told one man that the child she had was his, only to find out that it was NOT his child when a paternity test was done this year... she still says that he has to be the father, but a paternity and DNA test doesn't lie.

Either my cousin was lying (situation 1) or she was fucked by someone and cannot rememeber it after being drunk or drugged (situation 2). I think it's situation 1, because my cousin is a teetotaler like myself and doesn't do drugs.
JOHN

Nashville, TN

#33 Mar 22, 2008
just candid wrote:
<quoted text>I use every opportunity to speak up for men's rights and women accepting accountabilty for their actions.http://news.mensactivi sm.org/
Your militaristic attitude is counterproductive then. You rant against women rather than present a male-forward position. I've read a lot of your posts on different threads, and you are not persuasive with your technique. Just like the woman you often cite - Sandy Delk I think?- her posts are not indicative or representative of the majority of women- she makes her case sound narrow-minded and pathetic. You, sadly, present yourself as her male counterpart. Try a different approach.
sandi delk

Nashville, TN

#34 Mar 24, 2008
just candid wrote:
<quoted text>I use every opportunity to speak up for men's rights and women accepting accountabilty for their actions.http://news.mensactivi sm.org/
FU
sandi delk

Nashville, TN

#35 Mar 24, 2008
Your friend is staying got YOU HEAR ME!!!!!!!!!I hate all men! Thanks JOHN ,put him in his place. If I knew who he was I have him arrested.
JOHN

Nashville, TN

#36 Mar 24, 2008
sandi delk wrote:
Your friend is staying got YOU HEAR ME!!!!!!!!!I hate all men! Thanks JOHN ,put him in his place. If I knew who he was I have him arrested.
Put yourself in the same place ... I'm not sticking up for you, just pointing out that his comments are as gender-biased as yours are. This is a man sticking up for the sane women in the world, not men-haters. Your Nazi tactics are a slap in the face to the feminist movement, which is about empowerment and equality, not hate and dictatorial dogma.
Jenny

Nashville, TN

#37 Mar 25, 2008
You are right John, justcandid is a little militant but, I find much of what he says refreshing, as it is true we as a society tend to believe almost every evil thing we read/hear regarding men. He ( I assume it is a man who posted those comments) could tone it down a bit. You are also right about sandi's statements and her apparent intent ( they are overt and given that she says she wrongfully accused a soldier,treasonous as we are at war right now). I have read what this person posted and it is not only a slap in the face to all wonen, it is a slap in the face of those women who are true victims.
Paternity

AOL

#38 Apr 5, 2008
I think VAP's should not be done in Hospitals. If the parents are not married, they should have an amount of time to put the Alleged Father's name on the b/c. Names should not be put on the B/C @ the hospital. Men are not being told that if they sign a VAP @ the hospital he can NOT get a DNA without a Judge Order.
I have worked in child support and paternity for 15 years.
Anonymous

Nashville, TN

#39 Apr 5, 2008
A young nephew of mine was forced to pay child support to a young lady that knew he was not the father of her child. However, he had the income and when asked she pointed the finger at him. When a paternity test was finally done, the judge refused to recend the order. He had to get a attorney, who was then able to clear up the matter. Of course it was quite expensive. If a young man is disputing the paternity of a child, he has the right to a paternity test right then and there. I am a mother of 2 and never had a issue with my husband as to the paternity of our children. They were both born with egg heads, just like his.
Anon

United States

#40 Apr 5, 2008
16 years ago I had a child, the father denied paternity when he knew he was the Dad. I took him to court, DNA blood test ordered (before the mouth swab) and of course it came back 99.9999% he was dear old Dad. He has paid his CS faithfully and been a consistent part of the childs life. If the man and woman will put their crap aside and do what is in the best interest of the child then none of this would be necissary. If a man thinks the woman has been sleeping around he can take HER to court just as easily as she can take him. The state should stay out of it

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