Evangelical poses as gay for a year

Dec 2, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News 4 Jax

Timothy Kurek's motivation to spend a year pretending to be gay can be boiled down to a simple conviction: it takes drastic change to alter deeply held religious beliefs.

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21 - 40 of 47 Comments Last updated Dec 5, 2012
NoQ

New York, NY

#22 Dec 3, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, SNORE. Your posts grow more tedious and repetitive by the day. Can't you come up with any NEW taunts? You must enlarge your vocabulary repertoire.

I'm fine the way I am Fa&&ot, you don't like, tough shit. Get over it.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#24 Dec 3, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
The scriptures can and have been used to justify genocide, slavery, apartheid, segregation, crusades, inquisitions, to persecute Jews including support of the Third Reich and the Holocaust, to oppose medical science and inter-racial marriage, to execute witches and to support the KKK, as well as other actions now rejected even by most conservative religious leaders and communities. They are currently being used to rationalize prejudice and justify discrimination in a wide variety of ways against gay people.
When religious beliefs are used to justify torture, imprisonment, and even suicide/homicide bombing, the abuse of power by those who claim the authority of God should be clear. History has proven authoritarian religious organizations will violate and annihilate others in the name of saving them. We should have learned this by now.
But no matter what anyone thinks the bible says, and there is plenty of disagreement, it should not be used as an authority for writing and interpreting the law. The authority for laws in the US is the constitution, which says everyone is equal under the law. The founding fathers were well aware of the abuses inflicted by religious control, and that is why they established us as a constitutional representative democracy with separation of powers, including checks and balances on those powers. They avoided a direct democracy precisely because they were well aware that majorities would restrict the equality of minorities, often based on religious beliefs not shared by all. Using someone's interpretation of the bible to support laws undermines the constitutional guarantees of liberty and equality upon which our government was founded.
While the bible says many things, it also tells you to treat others the way you want to be treated and to leave the judgement to God. But please understand that if you continue to spread those harmful beliefs, they will continue to result in pain and suffering in a wide variety of ways including bullying, beatings, torture, imprisonment, and death. When you spread those beliefs, you promote hate and harm throughout
the world instead of the love Jesus intended.
Love thy neighbor as thyself, right? Here is the context of that line from Galatians 5 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:“Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#25 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
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Love thy neighbor as thyself, right? Here is the context of that line from Galatians 5 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:“Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
What if you're a Buddhist and don't read that part ?

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#26 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
And you absolutely cannot tell me that you do not live to admonish, insult, deride, ridicule, and condemn gays at every opportunity. You're here posting your hate far more often than most of us are having sex, so who's overindulging here, "Chance"?

Since you obviously flunked high school civics (or don't they even teach it in Grove City?), be advised that your book of religious rubbish is not the law of the land in this country and is therefore irrelevant. If you want a theocracy, move to Iran or some place equally as hellish. It's where idiots like you belong.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#27 Dec 3, 2012
GoldenGator wrote:
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And you absolutely cannot tell me that you do not live to admonish, insult, deride, ridicule, and condemn gays at every opportunity. You're here posting your hate far more often than most of us are having sex, so who's overindulging here, "Chance"?
Since you obviously flunked high school civics (or don't they even teach it in Grove City?), be advised that your book of religious rubbish is not the law of the land in this country and is therefore irrelevant. If you want a theocracy, move to Iran or some place equally as hellish. It's where idiots like you belong.
That's what the Pilgrims told the Puritans.

:)

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#28 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
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You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
You don't think heterosexuals have flesh desires. Most of us enjoy sex no matter your orientation and if you don't, then find a new partner.

The problem with the words heterosexual and homosexual is that they contain the word sex and that's the part people focus on. A more accurate descriptive might be heteroemotional and homoemotional. Sex is certainly part of any healthy relationship but LGBT folks love their partners in the same exact way the straight folks love their partners and they express that love in much the same way.

Whether you accept that as reality is up to you but that's the truth of it.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#29 Dec 3, 2012
KirkW wrote:
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You don't think heterosexuals have flesh desires. Most of us enjoy sex no matter your orientation and if you don't, then find a new partner.
The problem with the words heterosexual and homosexual is that they contain the word sex and that's the part people focus on. A more accurate descriptive might be heteroemotional and homoemotional. Sex is certainly part of any healthy relationship but LGBT folks love their partners in the same exact way the straight folks love their partners and they express that love in much the same way.
Whether you accept that as reality is up to you but that's the truth of it.
Regarding "find a new partner", I believe it is best to find out if you are sexually compatible with someone before making a long-term committment, such as marriage.

On more than one occassion I have gone out with a person who was incredibly good-looking, only to find out they were a dud at sex.(I have also gone out with some incredibly good-looking people who were incedibly GREAT at sex !:)). Better to find out first.
AzAdam

Phoenix, AZ

#30 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
Love thy neighbor as thyself, right? Here is the context of that line from Galatians 5 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:“Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
When you think desires of the flesh, why do you think of gay sex? Why not think of greed or covetousness or jealousy or the desire to hold power over your fellow man? The desire to take your neighbors wife or car, the desire to destroy those who oppose you?

For that matter, why not think of straight sex? Homosexuals are no more or less guilty of these things and they're no more or less horny than their straight brothers and sisters.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#31 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
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Galatians 5 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:“Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
Yes, I can.

Just like straight people, those who form committed relationships are motivated by emotional, yes even spiritual attraction, not necessarily physical attraction alone, if at all. It is only your irrational prejudice that causes you to interpret relationships built on mutual love and respect as nothing but lust.

If you look again at your own quote, it tells you not to harm others, as you do when you promote anti-gay prejudice and discrimination.

Matthew 7:12,: So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:'Love your neighbor as yourself. The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments."

Mark 12:30-31: And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luke 6:31: Do to others as you would have them do to you.

Luke 10:27: He answered:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’c; and,‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’d”

Romans 13; 8-10: Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. 9The commandments,“Do not commit adultery,”“Do not murder,”“Do not steal,”“Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule:“Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Romans 12-10: Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.

Leviticus 19:18: You shall not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:34: But the stranger that dwells with you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

John 13:34: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

1 John 4:21: And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

John 15:17: This is my command: Love each other.

James 2:8: But if you keep the greatest law of all, as it is given in the holy Writings, Have love for your neighbour as for yourself, you do well:

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#32 Dec 3, 2012
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
What if you're a Buddhist and don't read that part ?
"Every religion emphasizes human improvement, love, respect for others, sharing other people's suffering. On these lines every religion had more or less the same viewpoint and the same goal." (The Dalai Lama)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#33 Dec 3, 2012
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
Love thy neighbor as thyself, right? Here is the context of that line from Galatians 5 13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command:“Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
That's Platonic and Stoic philosophy.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#34 Dec 3, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
"Every religion emphasizes human improvement, love, respect for others, sharing other people's suffering. On these lines every religion had more or less the same viewpoint and the same goal." (The Dalai Lama)
But the bedrock principle of Christianity is that Non-Christians CANNOT go to heaven because they do NOT accept Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior. Correct ?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#36 Dec 3, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Dam Foxy, you're making me sick.
You're lousy at sex, huh ?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#37 Dec 3, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You are obviously an ignorant, hateful, anti-Christian bigot that well knows that your lifestyle choice is repeatedly condemned by God in both Testaments.
Hi Dave, how are you?
Straight Sh00ter

Lawrence, KS

#39 Dec 3, 2012
I suspect this guy was a bvttboi all along or chose to become one.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#40 Dec 3, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Dam Foxy, you're making me sick.
Then STOP letting your eyes crawl all over every single gay post you can get your mitts on. Go read the bible or a 'Casper The friendly Ghost' comic book where you won't find gay stuff. What's WRONG with you?

If you are so offended, then WHY DO YOU READ EVERY POST?

You will NOT find me on "Sex with women" forums, for I have ZERO interest in it. What is your interest?

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#41 Dec 4, 2012
Chance wrote:
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..........
You absolutely cannot tell me that homosexuals do not live to gratify the desires of the flesh.
"Live to gratify the desires of the flesh?"

Hardly.

Life is about so much more than that, for the vast majority of us. Out of every day, every week, and every life, a very small percentage is spent pursuing the desires of the flesh, in the way you mean.

We ALL were created with desires for love and sex, though - gay and straight alike. In the right time, and the right place, and with the right person, that can be a fulfilling and wonderful thing.

Are you doing to try to tell us that all heterosexuals never "gratify the desires of the flesh"? And that none will ever seem to "LIVE BY" it?

Gay and straight people are NO DIFFERENT in these areas. Pretending otherwise is simply ignorance.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#42 Dec 4, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually no, but the shit you're doing is perversion, not sex.
Again the obsession with sex overwhelms your little mind.

Tell us, what acts to gay folks engage in that straight folks don't? I've never heard of a single one, myself. But, since I don't spend the same amount of time that you do fantasizing about other people having sex, perhaps you know something I don't.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#44 Dec 4, 2012
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Again the obsession with sex overwhelms your little mind.
Tell us, what acts to gay folks engage in that straight folks don't? I've never heard of a single one, myself. But, since I don't spend the same amount of time that you do fantasizing about other people having sex, perhaps you know something I don't.
Well even I can answer that one.

Straight men don't...wait yes they do that.

Straight women don't...well wait yes they do that as well.

Straight men and women together don't...no no I'm wrong they do that too.

AHA! As a rule straight women don't pound their menfolk in the bum.

Even though there are videos out that that disprove my assertion.

;)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#45 Dec 4, 2012
AzAdam wrote:
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When you think desires of the flesh, why do you think of gay sex? Why not think of greed or covetousness or jealousy or the desire to hold power over your fellow man? The desire to take your neighbors wife or car, the desire to destroy those who oppose you?
For that matter, why not think of straight sex? Homosexuals are no more or less guilty of these things and they're no more or less horny than their straight brothers and sisters.
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