Evangelical poses as gay for a year

Dec 2, 2012 Full story: News 4 Jax 47

Timothy Kurek's motivation to spend a year pretending to be gay can be boiled down to a simple conviction: it takes drastic change to alter deeply held religious beliefs.

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Chance

Grove City, PA

#1 Dec 2, 2012
This man is the perfect example of how sin overtakes your life once you've opened the door to it. It was horrible what he did to his family.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#2 Dec 2, 2012
Chance wrote:
This man is the perfect example of how sin overtakes your life once you've opened the door to it. It was horrible what he did to his family.
And you are the perfect example of how bigotry overtakes your life once you've opened the door to it. It's horrible what you say to people here with every one of your ignorant comments.
flier

Denver, CO

#3 Dec 2, 2012
Chance wrote:
This man is the perfect example of how sin overtakes your life once you've opened the door to it. It was horrible what he did to his family.
Hey dimwit.....before you condemn him.....I suggest you read his book...you might learn something about how love, tolerance and acceptance, three things that were very much a part of the teaching of Jesus!!!!!

You obviously speak from a position of bigotry and extreme ignorance!

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#4 Dec 2, 2012
The scriptures can and have been used to justify genocide, slavery, apartheid, segregation, crusades, inquisitions, to persecute Jews including support of the Third Reich and the Holocaust, to oppose medical science and inter-racial marriage, to execute witches and to support the KKK, as well as other actions now rejected even by most conservative religious leaders and communities. They are currently being used to rationalize prejudice and justify discrimination in a wide variety of ways against gay people.

When religious beliefs are used to justify torture, imprisonment, and even suicide/homicide bombing, the abuse of power by those who claim the authority of God should be clear. History has proven authoritarian religious organizations will violate and annihilate others in the name of saving them. We should have learned this by now.

But no matter what anyone thinks the bible says, and there is plenty of disagreement, it should not be used as an authority for writing and interpreting the law. The authority for laws in the US is the constitution, which says everyone is equal under the law. The founding fathers were well aware of the abuses inflicted by religious control, and that is why they established us as a constitutional representative democracy with separation of powers, including checks and balances on those powers. They avoided a direct democracy precisely because they were well aware that majorities would restrict the equality of minorities, often based on religious beliefs not shared by all. Using someone's interpretation of the bible to support laws undermines the constitutional guarantees of liberty and equality upon which our government was founded.

While the bible says many things, it also tells you to treat others the way you want to be treated and to leave the judgement to God. But please understand that if you continue to spread those harmful beliefs, they will continue to result in pain and suffering in a wide variety of ways including bullying, beatings, torture, imprisonment, and death. When you spread those beliefs, you promote hate and harm throughout
the world instead of the love Jesus intended.
TheTroll Stopper

Roanoke, VA

#6 Dec 2, 2012
Caleb aka David Moore the Closet Case Pekin Troll wrote:
More childish insults
Just because you're still bitter that your ex-wife won't let you anywhere near your own kids anymore doesn't mean you should take it out on the rest of us, David. No wonder you're divorced. LOLAY!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#7 Dec 2, 2012
Shades of "Gentleman's Agreement"

Bob Dobbs

Grand Prairie, TX

#8 Dec 2, 2012
If you open yourself up to the long view, I think you would find that modern American society does not consider religion an authentic force. Instead, we have various collectives running simulations of various spiritual beliefs with various tangential connections to sacred texts. On the other hand, American society seems to view sexual preference as deep-seated, unalterable and genuinely authentic. I would contend sexual preference is no more (or less) deep seated than religion. I realize that some are truly born that way - which I respect just like I respect authentic individual believers. On the other hand, I think religion or preference with most people can change over a cocktail or a chance encounter. I don't make any judgements here but I would ask you to ignore the crap of cartesian grids of sexuality and spirituality foisted on us by self-serving elites. People are free and it is a good thing. This guy tried something, now he is free.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Dec 2, 2012
Michael

Washington, DC

#10 Dec 2, 2012
I would suggest that Timothy also learned another lesson about the impact of religion on LGBT folks: What it means to live a lie and feel you have to deny who you are. I'm glad that his journey helped him to recognize the pain inflicted when we forget the "golden rule", and hope that others can learn from his sharing of the journey - but I'm afraid the ones most in need of the lesson won't read the book. I hope in the follow on book that he is able to communicate how hard it is to undo the effects of living a lie...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#11 Dec 2, 2012
snyper wrote:
Shades of "Gentleman's Agreement"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KYDIWrcevkQXX
That's exactly the very first thing I thought of when I saw an article on this on the front page of The New York Daily News.(I read the New York newspapers every day, not the Arizona newspapers).

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#12 Dec 2, 2012
I might actually get this book...it seems really interesting.
This man has guts to take on such an experiment.
david traversa

Catamarca, Argentina

#13 Dec 2, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
The scriptures can and have been used to justify genocide, slavery, apartheid, segregation, crusades, inquisitions, to persecute Jews including support of the Third Reich and the Holocaust, to oppose medical science and inter-racial marriage, to execute witches and to support the KKK, as well as other actions now rejected even by most conservative religious leaders and communities. They are currently being used to rationalize prejudice and justify discrimination in a wide variety of ways against gay people.
When religious beliefs are used to justify torture, imprisonment, and even suicide/homicide bombing, the abuse of power by those who claim the authority of God should be clear. History has proven authoritarian religious organizations will violate and annihilate others in the name of saving them. We should have learned this by now.
But no matter what anyone thinks the bible says, and there is plenty of disagreement, it should not be used as an authority for writing and interpreting the law. The authority for laws in the US is the constitution, which says everyone is equal under the law. The founding fathers were well aware of the abuses inflicted by religious control, and that is why they established us as a constitutional representative democracy with separation of powers, including checks and balances on those powers. They avoided a direct democracy precisely because they were well aware that majorities would restrict the equality of minorities, often based on religious beliefs not shared by all. Using someone's interpretation of the bible to support laws undermines the constitutional guarantees of liberty and equality upon which our government was founded.
While the bible says many things, it also tells you to treat others the way you want to be treated and to leave the judgement to God. But please understand that if you continue to spread those harmful beliefs, they will continue to result in pain and suffering in a wide variety of ways including bullying, beatings, torture, imprisonment, and death. When you spread those beliefs, you promote hate and harm throughout
the world instead of the love Jesus intended.
BEAUTIFUL!! and beautifully written..
david traversa

Catamarca, Argentina

#14 Dec 2, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You are obviously an ignorant, hateful, anti-Christian bigot that well knows that your lifestyle choice is repeatedly condemned by God in both Testaments.
The usual nonsensical, confused and hysterical trash.. You'd be lucky to have even 1 per cent of his brains and generous heart..

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#15 Dec 2, 2012
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
That's exactly the very first thing I thought of when I saw an article on this on the front page of The New York Daily News.(I read the New York newspapers every day, not the Arizona newspapers).
I am not very optimistic that the book will be read by as many as will try to make more out of it than it is probably worth.
ravett

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Dec 3, 2012
Reminds me of the similar experiences of Griffin in "Black Like Me". He was condemned and praised by both black and white... Just how can we know about another group unless we attempt to share, inasmuch as we can, its experiences?

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#17 Dec 3, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You are obviously an ignorant, hateful, anti-Christian bigot that well knows that your lifestyle choice is repeatedly condemned by God in both Testaments.
I didn't see anything in his response that was anti-Christian. Anti-religion mayhaps but not anti-Christian.

You need to really look at history and look at what "religion" has done to mankind over the past 2,000 years. And today's uber-evangelical Christianity is following in the same path by dehumanizing people with who it disagrees and inciting others to violence.

Christianity is quickly becoming a bad thing. The bad apples are destroying it's reputation much in the same way Islamic terrorists are destroying the reputation of all peace loving Muslims.

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#18 Dec 3, 2012
KirkW wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't see anything in his response that was anti-Christian. Anti-religion mayhaps but not anti-Christian.
You need to really look at history and look at what "religion" has done to mankind over the past 2,000 years. And today's uber-evangelical Christianity is following in the same path by dehumanizing people with who it disagrees and inciting others to violence.
Christianity is quickly becoming a bad thing. The bad apples are destroying it's reputation much in the same way Islamic terrorists are destroying the reputation of all peace loving Muslims.
David Moore only has his own warped view on Christianity, and it centers around a blue-eyed Jesus! Enough said.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#19 Dec 3, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>You are obviously an ignorant, hateful, anti-Christian bigot that well knows that your lifestyle choice is repeatedly condemned by God in both Testaments.
You are obviously a pathological liar, DAVID MOORE of PEKIN, ILLINOIS.

At least you are sticking with one false name, instead of the dazzling endless list of false names you usually use.
NoQ

New York, NY

#20 Dec 3, 2012
flier wrote:
<quoted text>Hey dimwit.....before you condemn him.....I suggest you read his book...you might learn something about how love, tolerance and acceptance, three things that were very much a part of the teaching of Jesus!!!!!

You obviously speak from a position of bigotry and extreme ignorance!
You read his book, you fking Fa$$ot. He's just another Queer playing a game for recognition and money.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#21 Dec 3, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You read his book, you fking Fa$$ot. He's just another Queer playing a game for recognition and money.
Oh, SNORE. Your posts grow more tedious and repetitive by the day. Can't you come up with any NEW taunts? You must enlarge your vocabulary repertoire.

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