LifeWay: Big drop in Americans who think being gay's a sin

Jan 10, 2013 Full story: The Tennessean 137

Americans who believe being gay is a sin are no longer the majority -- not even half -- a shift a Southern Baptist-affiliated research group pins on President Barack Obama's changed opinion of gay marriage.

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mike

Sylva, NC

#1 Jan 22, 2013
Doesn't matter what most people believe. God's word (Bible) is very clear. See Romans chapter 1. To deny that it is a sin is to call God a liar.
Bible Believer

United States

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Sodomites raping little boys and young women and married women ---- look at the Catholics.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 1:22-32 (KJV)

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
Sodomites raping little boys and young women and married women ---- look at the Catholics.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 1:22-32 (KJV)
hey i saw your jesus earlier today.... he was hanging dead on a cross... what a shame
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>hey i saw your jesus earlier today.... he was hanging dead on a cross... what a shame
Are you being "literal', as in "snyper" kind of "literal"?
Bible Believer

United States

#5 Jan 25, 2013
A Satanist using a little girl's photo or a child under abuse.

And your Lucifer burning in the Lake of Fire. Your day of abuse is short, you'll meet your god soon. Anathema Maratha.

“Petite twink, barely legal”

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#6 Jan 27, 2013
Honestly, Bible Believer, Jesus didn't attack sinners with such venom as you have shown here. In fact His most contemptuous insults were reserved for the RELIGIOUS hypocrites of His time.
Michael the Archangel, when he disputed with the devil and they argued about the body of Moses, DID NOT DARE PRONOUNCE A RAILING JUDGMENT AGAINST HIM, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."
That's Jude 9, emphasis mine. If even Michael did not rebuke Satan, who are any of us - especially those who claim to follow Jesus - to "pronounce a railing judgment" against a fellow human being?
Willem

Gloucester, UK

#7 Jan 27, 2013
I don't care if it's a sin or not. I don't believe in religion. I do however believe that homosexuality is a disgusting sickness.
Quest

Woodford, VA

#8 Jan 27, 2013
Willem wrote:
I don't care if it's a sin or not. I don't believe in religion. I do however believe that homosexuality is a disgusting sickness.
Well, at least you admit that you have no rational reasoning behind your fears and hatreds. You just feel insecure in your own body and mind, and need to project that insecurity on folks you have never met.

Sad, but at least you are honest.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#9 Jan 27, 2013
3:45 pm, Sunday, January 27, 2013:
RE: LifeWay: Big drop in Americans who think being gay's a sin
..... The word sin means doing something contrary to the relevant laws. Which laws? The current laws of the governments concerned, or the laws as they were/used to be in some other country very many years ago?\
..... Never mind what it says in ancient books - what counts are the lawbooks of the current governments! And if there is a local law that prohibits being gay then those who are, are sinners, while in a country that does NOT prohibit being gay, being gay there is NOT a sin. Period.
Bible Believer

United States

#10 Jan 28, 2013
Tiny Timmie: Claiming to be Adam's first wife and escaping death and belonging to Satan and his little bore ------ you don't know what all is said or implied.

They are a devout Satanist.

Jesus made some bold statements and had distinct actions.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#11 Jan 28, 2013
The use of the story of Sodom to justify harming gay people is a good example of a misinterpretation and misapplication of biblical verses to demonize and dehumanize.

"The primarily sexual meaning of the word sodomia for Christians did not evolve before the 6th century AD. Roman Emperor Justinian I, in his novels no. 77 (dating 538) and no. 141 (dating 559) amended to his Corpus iuris civilis, and declared that Sodom's sin had been specifically same-sex activities and desire for them. He also linked "famines, earthquakes, and pestilences" upon cities as being due to "such crimes", during a time of recent earthquakes and other disasters." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

Sin of Sodom http://www.iwgonline.org/docs/sodom.html

"There are about twenty references to the story of Sodom in the Bible, and none of them says homosexuality was the sin of Sodom. One of the most extensive references to Sodom is found in Ezekiel, which says,“This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.”(Ezekiel 16:49-50 It is clear from this passage (and others like it that the abomination of Sodom, according to the Old Testament prophets, was that they behaved with callous indifference toward the weak and vulnerable — the poor, orphans, widows, and strangers in their midst." http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblica...

The point of Sodom was that you should love others, not abuse them. It was about harming them instead of treating them the way you want to be treated. It was about how you treat "the stranger at the gate." It had nothing to do with loving same sex relationships based on mutual respect and love between adults.

"Jesus and five Old Testament prophets all speak of the sins that led to the destruction of Sodom -- and not one of them mentions homosexuality. Even Billy Graham doesn't mention homosexuality when he preaches on Sodom."

"Ezekiel 16:48-49 tell us: "This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in God's eyes."

"It was common for soldiers, thieves, and bullies to rape a fallen enemy, asserting their victory by dehumanizing and demeaning the vanquished. This act of raping an enemy is about power and revenge,"

And it still happens today, most notoriously in prisons. It is not about love. It is about power, control, domination, and abuse. Rape is not love.

"The sexual act that occurs in the story of Sodom is a gang rape -- and homosexuals oppose gang rape as much as anyone. That's why I believe the story of Sodom says a lot about God's will for each of us, but nothing about homosexuality as we understand it today." ( quotes from: What the Bible says - and doesn't say - about Homosexuality)

Even the English versions of this story demonstrate there was nothing that can be honestly used to condemn gay people. Many other explanations including the Jewish versions of the this story agree the message is that you should not harm others but instead, treat them with love.

"In Sodom every one who gave bread and water to the poor was condemned to death by fire (Yal&#7731;., Gen. 83). Two girls, one poor and the other rich, went to a well; and the former gave the latter her jug of water, receiving in return a vessel containing bread. When this became known, both were burned alive."
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13827-...

So when you see verses that refer to Sodomites, they are addressing those who harm others needlessly and refuse to follow the Golden Rule, not same sex relationships based on mutual love and respect.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#12 Jan 28, 2013
Notice too, among the many things condemned in Romans, it addresses lust, not forming a committed relationship based on mutual love and respect. It is this misinterpretation that allows some to use this verse to justify harming others needlessly, and to ignore the Golden Rule.

“Petite twink, barely legal”

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#13 Jan 28, 2013
Bible Believer wrote:
Tiny Timmie: Claiming to be Adam's first wife and escaping death and belonging to Satan and his little bore ------ you don't know what all is said or implied.
They are a devout Satanist.
Jesus made some bold statements and had distinct actions.
You missed my point. If even Satan himself was not directly cursed by even Michael the Archangel, are you greater than Michael?

Christ's most biting, sarcastic and bitter insults were directed at the religious, the holier-than-thou people of His time. You make yourself sound like one of them!
Bible Believer

United States

#15 Jan 29, 2013
Know ye not that the Saints will judge angels?

There are those that want to call good evil and evil good.

Exe 8 and Matt 23. Jesus said ye are of your father the devil. They fall under the Star of Lucifer bunch (Acts 7). That star is the Hexagram which also holds a value of 666. Those religionists were Baal worshipers. Catholicism was created setup under Baal in all respects. They have never been Christian for one day.

Ask a lawyer today about sodomy. Anyone wanting to play in dung is of a sick mind. Sex in a dung hole is a perverted sick mind.

Acknowledge the sin and come to Jesus if God will bring you there. Sin is sin regardless. Without Jesus and you'll die in your sin. Why play the devil's advocate?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#16 Jan 29, 2013
mike wrote:
Doesn't matter what most people believe. God's word (Bible) is very clear. See Romans chapter 1. To deny that it is a sin is to call God a liar.
Or, since Saul wasn't a prophet (none of his predictions came true) his opinions aren't worth worrying about.
True Christian witness

Tulsa, OK

#17 Jan 29, 2013
The book of Revelation warns the people who consider themselves children of God, to leave all false religion and find the true family of God, the one world wide family that is living the instructions from Jesus to these congregations in the Book of Revelation.
Revelation 18:4 Revelation 1:17-19

All false Christian religions as well as Pagan religions are about to be destroyed by our King and Judge Jesus when the great tribulation starts, very soon now. Fake Christians are evident by their works today, they disobey God's word of righteousness and are children of the devil, not Jehovah God.
John 8:44 1Corinthians 6:9,10
Bible Believer

United States

#18 Jan 29, 2013
There is no secret rapture or 7 yr tribulation period. Not one verse in the Bible to denote that doctrine from the Jesuits.

Dan 9:24 70 weeks are determined and sealed to anoint the most Holy.

They created a 7 yr trib about Lucifer as the false messiah -- from the False Prophet teachings by removing the prophecy about Jesus and making it about Satan or the devil.
Bible Believer

United States

#19 Jan 29, 2013
Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Jer 10:2-5 (KJV)

All know per Luke 2 Jesus was born in September. The idolaters observe Baal worship and Tammuz on DEC 25th and Ishtar and Tammuz on Ishtar day (Easter). You find the so-call christian flag in the Ecumenical churches and gov't flags and pagan crosses. The Bible says not to observe the traditions of men or their festivals or holidays.
Bible Believer

United States

#20 Jan 29, 2013
The rapture or the gathering unto Christ Jesus happens at the Last Trump; it is here in scripture.

The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:14-15 (KJV) During the 3rd woe near the end and during tribulation the last trump sounds and the church is taken out and away from the earth for God to pour out His wrath upon the wicked left behind. The fantasy of Lucifer's temple to awaken the Jews is silly. Zionist and Ashkenazi Jews are not descendants of Jacob even.
Phil McGroen

Columbia, SC

#22 Jan 29, 2013
Willem wrote:
I don't care if it's a sin or not. I don't believe in religion. I do however believe that homosexuality is a disgusting sickness.
That why Britian has deserted over a thousand years of legal precedence in favor of the 6th Century dogma of ISLAM. It's nothing the US wants to repeat!

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