Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9774 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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Sam

Gleason, TN

#8401 Jul 27, 2013
Supreme Court ruled you can't sue Big Pharma.
Sam

Gleason, TN

#8402 Jul 27, 2013
Stacie wrote:
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A parent can choose to vaccinate or not, but not vaccinating puts that child and other children who are around your child at risk for serious illness and death.
If there is an outbreak of a disease an unimmunized child poses a threat to the community. They can pass on the disease to babies to young for the immunization or who cannot have the immunization due to medical reasons(such as cancer). According to the WHO there were 158,000 measles deaths globally in 2011.
BS If the vaccines REALLY work whatcha worried about? An if your that sick stay home.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#8403 Jul 27, 2013
Sam wrote:
Supreme Court ruled you can't sue Big Pharma.
Wow. I didn't know that. That's like giving Big Pharma a License To Kill with no fear of any repercussions!
But, it's also the reason that the FDA is so very, very important! It's our ONLY protection and we should DEMAND that it be empowered and we should keep a CLOSE WATCH over it and make sure that it's doing it's job for the Consumers and NOT as a puppet for Big Pharma!

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8404 Jul 27, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. I didn't know that. That's like giving Big Pharma a License To Kill with no fear of any repercussions!
But, it's also the reason that the FDA is so very, very important! It's our ONLY protection and we should DEMAND that it be empowered and we should keep a CLOSE WATCH over it and make sure that it's doing it's job for the Consumers and NOT as a puppet for Big Pharma!
However, consumers also need to be aware that when the FDA looks into something and decides it's not a problem, then the consumers need to stop making up bullsh1t.

Wakefield claimed that mercury in vaccines caused autism.
Studies showed that autism rates didn't change between vaccinated and unvaccinated (disproving his claim).
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma did an additional study on the mercury, showing it causes no harm and is not linked to autism.
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma REMOVED the mercury and the rate of autism did not change.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was some other aspect of the vaccine that causes autism.
So Big Pharma addressed THAT issue.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was yet some other thing.

Remember, at NO POINT did the anti-vaxers actually demonstrate that vaccines cause autism. They just made that claim against the actual evidence.

Big Pharma and the FDA have been bending over backwards for these people for YEARS, disproving all of these fraudulent claims.

And still the anti-vaxers come up with more stuff.

That's because their hurdle for legitimacy is: "Someone posted it to a forum".
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8405 Jul 27, 2013
TRUTH? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!Starting with Wakefield's work has N O T H I N G to do with mercury. There is no study comparing vax and un vax. Does not exist. The Denmark study left out children - it isn't strong science. You must work for Pharma or are too lazy to go past what the media erroneously reports. Your post (below) is nothing but error. Or lies.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
However, consumers also need to be aware that when the FDA looks into something and decides it's not a problem, then the consumers need to stop making up bullsh1t.
Wakefield claimed that mercury in vaccines caused autism.
Studies showed that autism rates didn't change between vaccinated and unvaccinated (disproving his claim).
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma did an additional study on the mercury, showing it causes no harm and is not linked to autism.
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma REMOVED the mercury and the rate of autism did not change.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was some other aspect of the vaccine that causes autism.
So Big Pharma addressed THAT issue.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was yet some other thing.
Remember, at NO POINT did the anti-vaxers actually demonstrate that vaccines cause autism. They just made that claim against the actual evidence.
Big Pharma and the FDA have been bending over backwards for these people for YEARS, disproving all of these fraudulent claims.
And still the anti-vaxers come up with more stuff.
That's because their hurdle for legitimacy is: "Someone posted it to a forum".

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8406 Jul 27, 2013
Myth wrote:
TRUTH? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!Starting with Wakefield's work has N O T H I N G to do with mercury. There is no study comparing vax and un vax. Does not exist. The Denmark study left out children - it isn't strong science. You must work for Pharma or are too lazy to go past what the media erroneously reports. Your post (below) is nothing but error. Or lies. <quoted text>
No, Wakefield's original claim was based on his fraudulent study where he used too small a sample size, he hand picked the responses AND he altered the data.

And why? So he could sell HIS vaccine.

But when he got called out on it, that's when the "Oh, its the mercury" thing came up.

As for the Denmark study, it's a comprehensive retroactive study looking back for generations. It is far more complete than any other study ever performed.

Did individuals get left out? Yes. For example, infants that died before the date of getting vaccines or being able to be diagnosed as autistic. That's a data set which neither informs nor clarifies either position. It's useless.

And no, I don't work for any pharma companies. I just think it's profoundly dangerous that people like you can harm so many thousands of children with NO reprocusions simply because you're mentally ill and no one calls you on your bullsh1t
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8407 Jul 27, 2013
Again, you are wrong. Admit it. There IS no Wakefield STUDY. It is a paper with different meaning and context and weight from a study. You are misrepresenting Wakefield's work.

In Denmark the study used children diagnosed at certain facilities, not all children diagnosed.

I give up. You believe what you want to. Vaccines do cause harm, vaccine makers are not held accountable for harm, and parents should make an educated decision looking at both sides (not headlines) and should be allowed to opt out.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Wakefield's original claim was based on his fraudulent study where he used too small a sample size, he hand picked the responses AND he altered the data.
And why? So he could sell HIS vaccine.
But when he got called out on it, that's when the "Oh, its the mercury" thing came up.
As for the Denmark study, it's a comprehensive retroactive study looking back for generations. It is far more complete than any other study ever performed.
Did individuals get left out? Yes. For example, infants that died before the date of getting vaccines or being able to be diagnosed as autistic. That's a data set which neither informs nor clarifies either position. It's useless.
And no, I don't work for any pharma companies. I just think it's profoundly dangerous that people like you can harm so many thousands of children with NO reprocusions simply because you're mentally ill and no one calls you on your bullsh1t
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8408 Jul 27, 2013
"CALLOUS DISREGARD"
HeHe

North Augusta, SC

#8409 Jul 27, 2013
Myth wrote:
"CALLOUS DISREGARD"
All you have is an opinion, and as I'm sure you've heard. They're like butt holes, everybody has one, but some are so out of whack, you can't tell what it is.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8410 Jul 27, 2013
Myth wrote:
Again, you are wrong. Admit it. There IS no Wakefield STUDY. It is a paper with different meaning and context and weight from a study. You are misrepresenting Wakefield's work.
In Denmark the study used children diagnosed at certain facilities, not all children diagnosed.
I give up. You believe what you want to. Vaccines do cause harm, vaccine makers are not held accountable for harm, and parents should make an educated decision looking at both sides (not headlines) and should be allowed to opt out.
<quoted text>
And if they choose to opt out, they should be held finacially responsible for anyone who gets sick because their child was not vaccinated.
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8411 Jul 27, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
And if they choose to opt out, they should be held finacially responsible for anyone who gets sick because their child was not vaccinated.
Then vaccine makers should pay for harm and damage to children. Families bear the weight of a child damaged by a vaccine now.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8412 Jul 27, 2013
Myth wrote:
<quoted text>
Then vaccine makers should pay for harm and damage to children. Families bear the weight of a child damaged by a vaccine now.
They do. All vaccine manufacturers pay into a central fund which pays out to families.
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8413 Jul 27, 2013
Myth

Franklin, TN

#8414 Jul 27, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
They do. All vaccine manufacturers pay into a central fund which pays out to families.
Getting a case to vaccine "court" is next to impossible.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8415 Jul 27, 2013
Myth wrote:
<quoted text>
Getting a case to vaccine "court" is next to impossible.
Especially when it's fraudulent
LOL

Southfield, MI

#8416 Jul 27, 2013
Well the more people who skip vaccines just leans less backwards people to grow up and do the same.
Hey

Sparta, TN

#8417 Jul 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
However, consumers also need to be aware that when the FDA looks into something and decides it's not a problem, then the consumers need to stop making up bullsh1t.
Wakefield claimed that mercury in vaccines caused autism.
Studies showed that autism rates didn't change between vaccinated and unvaccinated (disproving his claim).
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma did an additional study on the mercury, showing it causes no harm and is not linked to autism.
The Anti Vaxers disagreed (based on nothing)
So Big Pharma REMOVED the mercury and the rate of autism did not change.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was some other aspect of the vaccine that causes autism.
So Big Pharma addressed THAT issue.
The Anti Vaxers then decided it was yet some other thing.
Remember, at NO POINT did the anti-vaxers actually demonstrate that vaccines cause autism. They just made that claim against the actual evidence.
Big Pharma and the FDA have been bending over backwards for these people for YEARS, disproving all of these fraudulent claims.
And still the anti-vaxers come up with more stuff.
That's because their hurdle for legitimacy is: "Someone posted it to a forum".
Oh really? When the FDA looks into something and finds its is contaminated with AIDS we pull it from the US and sell it off in Europe. We don't want to waste anything do we? Just keep it quiet and everything is fine.
That FDA?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8418 Jul 28, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh really? When the FDA looks into something and finds its is contaminated with AIDS we pull it from the US and sell it off in Europe. We don't want to waste anything do we? Just keep it quiet and everything is fine.
That FDA?
The FDA doesn't sell anything. They determine whether or not someone can sell stuff.

If you have evidence for the FDA confiscating materials and then selling them to a foreign country, let's see the receipts.
Hey

Sparta, TN

#8420 Jul 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
The FDA doesn't sell anything. They determine whether or not someone can sell stuff.
If you have evidence for the FDA confiscating materials and then selling them to a foreign country, let's see the receipts.
The FDA knew what was going on and pretty much said to hush it up.
That doesn't phase you?
You have no problem with thousands of dead, children?
You trust these people with your safety?
Are you on drugs?
SomeOne

United States

#8421 Jul 28, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
The FDA knew what was going on and pretty much said to hush it up.
That doesn't phase you?
You have no problem with thousands of dead, children?
You trust these people with your safety?
Are you on drugs?
Present some I reputable sources for your outlandish claims.

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