Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

May 4, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Chattanoogan.com

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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GMOs are different.Here is the difference.
http://www.sunridgefarms.com/news/index.php...
When a donkey and horse are interbred the offspring, the mule, is sterile. These are two different spieces and something does not want this mix to continue.
However both the donkey and the horse got to where they are by human breeding.

Corn was originally teocinte. Modern corn can not breed with teocinte, doesn't mean that we didn't talk it all the way down that path.

Many of our high yield crops are hybrids, some are even sterile.
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Do you all want small pox, the plague, polio, whooping cough, and a whole host of other things that have been eradicated to come back. Food additive's are probably more responsible for autism. And diet in general. During the fifties women drank, smoked while preg. and then we got every new shoot in the world and autism was not going crazy then.
i think its alittle bit of all of it
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That is true, however it's also extremely arbitrary on the part of the religious.
If I started a religion that forbid the eating of grain harvested by someone left handed, would that require labeling?
Where does that end?
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It doesn't help that the information is not easily available. You yourself couldn't find the text of the prop.
Most CA voters don't know what the props are until the actually show up to vote. There's usually one or two that get a lot of press, but then theres 6-8 more no one discusses
There's no way for me to research everything I'd like to, let alone earn a living AND research. I'm pretty good with Thomas, I sometimes get lucky researching Tennessee bills, but keeping abreast with current events seems to consume so much time lately that much beyond that is pushing my boundaries a bit much.

As for religious restrictions, the ones I refer to are long standing, and more a matter of curiosity than anything else. Maybe a Rabbi could give some insight on this?

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There's no way for me to research everything I'd like to, let alone earn a living AND research. I'm pretty good with Thomas, I sometimes get lucky researching Tennessee bills, but keeping abreast with current events seems to consume so much time lately that much beyond that is pushing my boundaries a bit much.
As for religious restrictions, the ones I refer to are long standing, and more a matter of curiosity than anything else. Maybe a Rabbi could give some insight on this?
Yes, there are a lot of long standing religious restrictions. The way they've been handled in the past has worked out great. Companies can pursue the niche market and advertise to them accordingly.

There's no federal oversight as to whether or not Hebrew International Hotdogs are actually kosher or not. I'm sure there is some Jewish group that looks into these things and lets it be known if the company is breaking the rules.

Having the government get into the business of overseeing religious dietary standards is just more trouble than its worth
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Yes, there are a lot of long standing religious restrictions. The way they've been handled in the past has worked out great. Companies can pursue the niche market and advertise to them accordingly.
There's no federal oversight as to whether or not Hebrew International Hotdogs are actually kosher or not. I'm sure there is some Jewish group that looks into these things and lets it be known if the company is breaking the rules.
Having the government get into the business of overseeing religious dietary standards is just more trouble than its worth
True, but considering how this government likes to meddle in our private lives, it is a wonder they haven't.

I'm sure you're right about companies target marketing certain groups, though at an increased cost. None-the-less such marketing would still require a degree of trust in those companies which may, or may not, be warranted.

Why do you think so many food companies fought so hard against GMO labeling? It surely couldn't cost more than a fraction of a penny to include that with what is already required.
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NO....health is none of the state or fed government's business. Should be decided by the parent.

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Why do you think so many food companies fought so hard against GMO labeling? It surely couldn't cost more than a fraction of a penny to include that with what is already required.
It's because the public is frequently scared off by unsubstantiated claims.

Look at the whole issue over vaccines. It's all based on one guys fraudulent claim, but the conspiracy theorists picked it up and ran with it. Now thousands of kids are dying as a result.

CLAIMS that GMO are dangerous have not been substantiated. Therefore, forcing food manufacturers to label their products "warning" customers about the presence of something which science has not shown requires a warning is needless fear mongering.

GMOs are in just about everything you buy. If they were responsible for some crazy health crisis, it would be obvious at this point.

All disease indicators have been in steady decline except obesity related illnesses and that's because of corn syrup not GMOs

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NO....health is none of the state or fed government's business. Should be decided by the parent.
If your decision as a parent puts your child's life in danger, shouldn't someone step in and protect the child?

At what point do we as a society stop you from killing your own child?
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It's because the public is frequently scared off by unsubstantiated claims.
Look at the whole issue over vaccines. It's all based on one guys fraudulent claim, but the conspiracy theorists picked it up and ran with it. Now thousands of kids are dying as a result.
CLAIMS that GMO are dangerous have not been substantiated. Therefore, forcing food manufacturers to label their products "warning" customers about the presence of something which science has not shown requires a warning is needless fear mongering.
GMOs are in just about everything you buy. If they were responsible for some crazy health crisis, it would be obvious at this point.
All disease indicators have been in steady decline except obesity related illnesses and that's because of corn syrup not GMOs
The whole issue on vaccines is way beyond one guy.
I have issues with the SV-40 cancer cells and the monkey viruses and rna that contaminated the polio vaccines which are being found in cancers showing up now.That little issue brought on Nixson's so called "War On Cancer." They knew there was big trouble brewing.
I have issues on the Bill Gates polio Vaccine wonders that have left 43,000 plus kids paralyzed in India.
No problem here just move along folks.How about we move along to autoimmune diseases being caused by animal viruses and mychoplasma brought to you by vaccines and a little bio-warfare ingredience.
How about Merck's Mumps Vaccine Fraud.Or how about Julie Gerberding,the former director of US-CDC-which makes US immunization schedule,becoming the President of Merck's vaccine unit which makes 14 of the 17 pediatric vaccines recommended by the CDC and 4 of 10 recommended for adults.
Mega revolving doors help alot.Keeps them vacs rolling out without too much resistance.Yes?
Check out Monsanto's revolving doors.That list is really long.
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61 countries (40% of the population)already lable GMOs. The entire EU, even Communist China. Wow communists have that freedom to know what they are spending their money on and putting in their bodies?Wow. Isn't that amazing? Oh add Russia to that list.

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The whole issue on vaccines is way beyond one guy.
Actually it's not. It all started with Wakefield's fraudulent study that he put out as a means of marketing his replacement for the MMR vaccine. Before this, there were no claims. Afterwards, mayhem.
I have issues with the SV-40 cancer cells and the monkey viruses and rna that contaminated the polio vaccines which are being found in cancers showing up now.That little issue brought on Nixson's so called "War On Cancer." They knew there was big trouble brewing.
First of all, give us a link.

Second of all, you are claiming the MODERN vaccines are a problem because of vaccines from 40 years ago?

That's like saying Priuses are bad for the environment because look at the gas mileage on the Edsel.
I have issues on the Bill Gates polio Vaccine wonders that have left 43,000 plus kids paralyzed in India.
Again, citation?
No problem here just move along folks.How about we move along to autoimmune diseases being caused by animal viruses and mychoplasma brought to you by vaccines and a little bio-warfare ingredience.
How about Merck's Mumps Vaccine Fraud.Or how about Julie Gerberding,the former director of US-CDC-which makes US immunization schedule,becoming the President of Merck's vaccine unit which makes 14 of the 17 pediatric vaccines recommended by the CDC and 4 of 10 recommended for adults.
Mega revolving doors help alot.Keeps them vacs rolling out without too much resistance.Yes?
Check out Monsanto's revolving doors.That list is really long.
Again, citation, citation, citation...

As for policy maker to corporate position - that's commonplace through out the government. At least in the field of medicine, you can point to the fact that these people are highly specialized and there are only so many people with that level of specilization.

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61 countries (40% of the population)already lable GMOs. The entire EU, even Communist China. Wow communists have that freedom to know what they are spending their money on and putting in their bodies?Wow. Isn't that amazing? Oh add Russia to that list.
Yup. Of course, there's no actual regulation in China so whether or not something is labelled really is meaningless over there.

AFter all, China was the one sell plastic as dog food - remember?
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Yup. Of course, there's no actual regulation in China so whether or not something is labelled really is meaningless over there.
AFter all, China was the one sell plastic as dog food - remember?
Yes I remember the problems with contaminated junk from Communist China that was part of it being amazing that they labeled the GMOs.
Now if it's not an issues for food companies to label foods in 61 other countries isn't it amazing that the most powerful country in the world can't come up with doing this very same thing that folks in other countrie have the benefit of?
If my products were so wonderful I'd want to put that up every where.How about big letters on the front of the boxs and cans and every thing. Shout it from the roof tops not spend millions to keep it all hidden.
Well everything should be in plain boxs and such.That would be fair and even interesting.Maybe you want to buy a tv but the box you just bought was a box of tv trays.So what you don't need to know.I mean who the hell are you to know anything for that matter?
STUPID? YES.So is not knowing what your buying in your food.
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Yup. Of course, there's no actual regulation in China so whether or not something is labelled really is meaningless over there.
AFter all, China was the one sell plastic as dog food - remember?
Oh.How about the other 60 countries?

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<quoted text> Yes I remember the problems with contaminated junk from Communist China that was part of it being amazing that they labeled the GMOs.
Now if it's not an issues for food companies to label foods in 61 other countries isn't it amazing that the most powerful country in the world can't come up with doing this very same thing that folks in other countrie have the benefit of?
If my products were so wonderful I'd want to put that up every where.How about big letters on the front of the boxs and cans and every thing. Shout it from the roof tops not spend millions to keep it all hidden.
Well everything should be in plain boxs and such.That would be fair and even interesting.Maybe you want to buy a tv but the box you just bought was a box of tv trays.So what you don't need to know.I mean who the hell are you to know anything for that matter?
STUPID? YES.So is not knowing what your buying in your food.
Like I said before...

You want labels because you fear this food because the people are telling you to fear this food, not because there's any specific evidence that anything is wrong. Putting "warnings" on products that have GMOs will just go further to heighten the perception that there is danger which has not been shown to be real.

If I started some bizarre rumor about how food picked by someone who is left handed causes cancer and enough people on the internet believed it, would that justify requiring companies to label food as "Lefty-Free"?

This is fear driving notification in the absence of evidence.

First get evidence, then ask for appropriate action. Don't demand action and then look for appropriate evidence.
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Like I said before...
You want labels because you fear this food because the people are telling you to fear this food, not because there's any specific evidence that anything is wrong. Putting "warnings" on products that have GMOs will just go further to heighten the perception that there is danger which has not been shown to be real.
If I started some bizarre rumor about how food picked by someone who is left handed causes cancer and enough people on the internet believed it, would that justify requiring companies to label food as "Lefty-Free"?
This is fear driving notification in the absence of evidence.
First get evidence, then ask for appropriate action. Don't demand action and then look for appropriate evidence.
How is it 61 other countries get the labels?
So peoples fears cause farmer's animals to become sterile?Sheep eat what's left of cotton plants and die.Are these animals fearful and therefore have these issues with GMOs?
Someone needs to talk to them and tell them it's all in their minds.
So basically other people in other countries are fear driven but they can have labels anyhow? How does that work?
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How is it 61 other countries get the labels?
So peoples fears cause farmer's animals to become sterile?Sheep eat what's left of cotton plants and die.Are these animals fearful and therefore have these issues with GMOs?
First of all, citations?
Second of all, how much cotton do you eat?

I've seen this behavior before with the anti-vac crowd. Rumors and gossips and no facts to back them up.

You don't change policy based on fears. You change policy based on science. Put together the science and the scientists will back you up. Until then it's just speculation.
Someone needs to talk to them and tell them it's all in their minds.
So basically other people in other countries are fear driven but they can have labels anyhow? How does that work?
In England, until very recently, their medical system accepted magical water as medicine. They had whole hospitals that treated people with magic water. And when I say "recently", I don't mean 1500. I mean 2-3 years ago.

The fact that a country accepts or rejects something is not evidence that that their beliefs are scientifically valid.

Europe is in the middle of a massive food scare that did not start with GMOs. It started with Mad Cow. They had poor controls in place and it was a huge problem for them. We did not have similar problems here because we have been controls in place.

Europe then had this recent second "scare" with the horse meat fiasco.

It's not surprising that their reaction to speculative food scares is knee jerk. That doesn't make their fears valid.

Additionally, the sort of one size fits all labeling you are calling for makes no sense.

Let's say I grow soy beans and I splice in a gene from an African strain of soy bean which normally doesn't breed well with the common strain in use. Is that the same as if I were to splice spider DNA into a cow?

This is not a simple discussion to be had by people without an understanding of what's being discussed. It's not something where "label it all" means anything.
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First of all, citations?
Second of all, how much cotton do you eat?
I've seen this behavior before with the anti-vac crowd. Rumors and gossips and no facts to back them up.
You don't change policy based on fears. You change policy based on science. Put together the science and the scientists will back you up. Until then it's just speculation.
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In England, until very recently, their medical system accepted magical water as medicine. They had whole hospitals that treated people with magic water. And when I say "recently", I don't mean 1500. I mean 2-3 years ago.
The fact that a country accepts or rejects something is not evidence that that their beliefs are scientifically valid.
Europe is in the middle of a massive food scare that did not start with GMOs. It started with Mad Cow. They had poor controls in place and it was a huge problem for them. We did not have similar problems here because we have been controls in place.
Europe then had this recent second "scare" with the horse meat fiasco.
It's not surprising that their reaction to speculative food scares is knee jerk. That doesn't make their fears valid.
Additionally, the sort of one size fits all labeling you are calling for makes no sense.
Let's say I grow soy beans and I splice in a gene from an African strain of soy bean which normally doesn't breed well with the common strain in use. Is that the same as if I were to splice spider DNA into a cow?
This is not a simple discussion to be had by people without an understanding of what's being discussed. It's not something where "label it all" means anything.
I don't eat cotton,but then neither did the sheep.They ate what was left of the plants as they had before.But the GMO left overs killed them.
AS far as the magic water, I bet it beat Viox and SV-40.
So, after the magic water, did the 61 other countries decide their folks ought to have a choice? Well maybe it was that magic water that gave them the common sense to realize one ought to know what they are paying for.

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