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Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80051 May 14, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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"100% on average" premium increases? I'm thinking supply and demand would prevent this, or is capitalism actually a sham? People struggling to pay premiums right now will undoubtedly drop their insurance completely if it doubles. It's still an unnecessary luxury to many people.
There is nothing that even remotely resembles the supply and demand model regarding Obamacare. When you arbitrarily fix the demand side, disrupt the supply side by making entities pay for the cost for other entities, supply and demand doesn't work. If you think Obamacare is an example of capitalism, then you need to study what capitalism is. Capitalism is defined as follows -

"An economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"

How in the world does Obamacare fit under this definition?

Regarding your last statement, individuals will drop their insurance, but now they will be fined for doing so.

My quotes for next year are in and my insurance premium for employer provided healthcare is now 32.4% more than last year. This came from Blue Cross. United Healthcare was quoted at 36.4% higher than last year. Simply paying the fine for not providing healthcare to my employees results in a 24.8% increase over this past year. However, the fine will increase in 2015. I am opting to continue healthcare for my employees this next year, however, most small businesses won't and a lot will simply go out of business because any business struggling right now will not be able to absorb this added tax. At best, businesses will lower their employee headcount to reduce this tax.

This is no spin or opinion, this is based on hard core data directly from my insurance broker. Right now, small businesses are being assaulted and it is not by big corporations, it is by big government. Many small businesses simply cannot afford to do this and won't be able to.

In my opinion, by the end of 2014, the small business environment will be completely changed from what it is today. The end result will be less competition, higher prices, higher inflation, less employment and vastly more expensive healthcare insurance premiums. Yes, it is good that more Americans will now be covered by insurance. But is the huge cost associated with this worth it?? I guess we will soon see. Currently, it doesn't look good.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80052 May 14, 2013
Olivia wrote:
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Gore won the popular vote by 500,000 votes and his bro. Jeb blocked the recount securing the win. His second term was won by Ohio whose voting machines made by GOP corp. secured it for him. CHEATING AND LIES ARE THE GOP TRADEMARKS.
I don't suppose you have noticed the several scandals going on right now that are blanketing all news sources. Being accused of cheating by cheaters results in total disregard for the accusers.

Since: Feb 13

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#80053 May 14, 2013
Tired wrote:
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I don't see how your post helps your argument. I actually sounds like you are contradicting yourself.
LOL! He/She did and didn't even realize it. I'm telling you, most of the Tea Baggers would have to have an Upgrade to be classified as "Stupid"!

I blame it on a daily over-consumption of Fox Fake News and Scientific Studies have studied that Theory and found it to be true! Fox Fake News Watchers are dumber than your Average Person!

Since: Mar 10

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#80060 May 14, 2013
Amos wrote:
Plus, Clinton - the ONLY man to ever be a pardoned felon to be president- had TWO chances to take out bin Laden. Care to bring that up ???
Bin Laden hasn't masterminded the attacks that led to 3000 American deaths at that point, he wasn't quite the Public Enemy #1 at the time. Who ended up presiding over the death of that particular terrorist, by the way?

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#80063 May 14, 2013
Want a giggle? Mention "accountability" and "responsibility," mention 9/11, then watch how quickly Republicans try to pin the blame for it on Clinton. It's a hoot.

Since: Feb 13

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#80064 May 14, 2013
Amos wrote:
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There have been many many presidents who have won without winning the popular vote. The Founders set our form of gov't up this way to ensure that major metropolitan centers didn't rule the vote.
Now, despite your ignorance of our form of gov't, I'll give you a pass for this post. You are too stupid to continue to waste my intellect and this site's bandwidth on.
Yeah??? Name one!

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#80065 May 14, 2013
Pete wrote:
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I don't suppose you have noticed the several scandals going on right now that are blanketing all news sources. Being accused of cheating by cheaters results in total disregard for the accusers.
Run that by me, again...and give an example!

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#80066 May 14, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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Bin Laden hasn't masterminded the attacks that led to 3000 American deaths at that point, he wasn't quite the Public Enemy #1 at the time. Who ended up presiding over the death of that particular terrorist, by the way?
*hadn't

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#80067 May 14, 2013
Bush isn't president anymore! Bush isn't president anymore!...but 9/11 was Clinton's fault, even though he had been out of office for nearly a year.

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#80068 May 14, 2013
Amos wrote:
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Again, the adults are having a discussion and your continual butt-ins are not only irrelevant - they are annoying.
Go to bed. Everyone knows you are drunk and full of pills anyway Linda.
Just because you get that way every night, doesn't mean everybody else does!
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80069 May 14, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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Yeah??? Name one!
John Quincy Adams

Rutherford Hayes

Benjamin Harrison

George W. Bush

Since: Feb 13

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#80070 May 14, 2013
Amos wrote:
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There have been many many presidents who have won without winning the popular vote. The Founders set our form of gov't up this way to ensure that major metropolitan centers didn't rule the vote.
Now, despite your ignorance of our form of gov't, I'll give you a pass for this post. You are too stupid to continue to waste my intellect and this site's bandwidth on.
Intellect??? If you've got any intellect, you keep it well hidden, that's all I can say. What else are you hiding?
You sound like a Kid, to me....that failed History and Civics!

Since: Feb 13

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#80071 May 14, 2013
Pete wrote:
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There is nothing that even remotely resembles the supply and demand model regarding Obamacare. When you arbitrarily fix the demand side, disrupt the supply side by making entities pay for the cost for other entities, supply and demand doesn't work. If you think Obamacare is an example of capitalism, then you need to study what capitalism is. Capitalism is defined as follows -
"An economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"
How in the world does Obamacare fit under this definition?
Regarding your last statement, individuals will drop their insurance, but now they will be fined for doing so.
My quotes for next year are in and my insurance premium for employer provided healthcare is now 32.4% more than last year. This came from Blue Cross. United Healthcare was quoted at 36.4% higher than last year. Simply paying the fine for not providing healthcare to my employees results in a 24.8% increase over this past year. However, the fine will increase in 2015. I am opting to continue healthcare for my employees this next year, however, most small businesses won't and a lot will simply go out of business because any business struggling right now will not be able to absorb this added tax. At best, businesses will lower their employee headcount to reduce this tax.
This is no spin or opinion, this is based on hard core data directly from my insurance broker. Right now, small businesses are being assaulted and it is not by big corporations, it is by big government. Many small businesses simply cannot afford to do this and won't be able to.
In my opinion, by the end of 2014, the small business environment will be completely changed from what it is today. The end result will be less competition, higher prices, higher inflation, less employment and vastly more expensive healthcare insurance premiums. Yes, it is good that more Americans will now be covered by insurance. But is the huge cost associated with this worth it?? I guess we will soon see. Currently, it doesn't look good.
Wonder what it would have been like it the Republicans had let it be a Single-Payer System like Medicare...like Obama and his Administration wanted it to be?

What percentage was your increasein cost last year?

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#80072 May 14, 2013
...increase in cost...

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#80073 May 14, 2013
Amos wrote:
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5 YEARS of blaming Bush.
How about getting with the times. Bush is not president. This discussion is about how OBAMA's IRS went after everyone politically opposed to him - and YES, despite what he said, the IRS IS part of the EXECUTIVE branch of government...
Is it not supremely interesting that Obama is NEVER informed about what is going on??? Solyndra, Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS, and tapping the press....
If he doesn't know what's going on, he's incompetent. If he does, he is being treasonous - and should be impeached.
Plus, unlike Slick Willie...there is NO question of just what IS...is.
The question with Obama is if there is there.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#80074 May 14, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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Yes, and Bush wasn't informed of bin Laden's intentions with the CIA briefing entitled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US?"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Dete...
I suppose I'll invariably hear more "Bush isn't president anymore" after this blast from the past.
Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency and given to U.S. President George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001. The brief warned of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda 36 days before the September 11, 2001 attacks.[1]
??
I have seen numerous people ridiculed by the Liberals on here for using wikipedia as a source. Now look who is doing it. LOL

Since: Feb 13

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#80075 May 14, 2013
Pete wrote:
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John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Benjamin Harrison
George W. Bush
I thought Bush Supporters claim that he won the Popular Vote. Actually, I know that's what they claim. I just never knew if it was true or not.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#80076 May 14, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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Yeah??? Name one!
How about 4?

Four presidents have been elected in this manner: John Quincy Adams in 1824, Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876, Benjamin Harrison in 1888 and George W. Bush in 2000.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsys...

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#80077 May 14, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
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Bin Laden hasn't masterminded the attacks that led to 3000 American deaths at that point, he wasn't quite the Public Enemy #1 at the time. Who ended up presiding over the death of that particular terrorist, by the way?
But Bin Laden had already declared war on America at that time and Clinton chose to ignore that and not take him when offered by Sudan.

As far as who presided over his death. I will let Obama's own words cover that one. Obama "You didn't build that".

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#80078 May 14, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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I thought Bush Supporters claim that he won the Popular Vote. Actually, I know that's what they claim. I just never knew if it was true or not.
If you watched Fox News instead of going to all those far left propaganda sites, you would know that they make no such claims. But I can understand your kind not wanting anything to do with fair and balanced reporting. It does not fit your agenda.

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