Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76872 Apr 22, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike you I don't get news from my crystal ball.
Officials still don't know what caused Texas fertilizer explosion
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/21/17...
Oh, they know! They're probably just not officially admitting it. Google Anhydrous Ammonia and see if you would want to work around hundreds or thousands of pounds of it, which is how much was stored in that Plant!
As I posted before, which you obviously, didn't read...it's what Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Murray Building in OKlahoma City!

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76873 Apr 22, 2013
A prime example of socialism - as is so often the case, socialist societies devolve into dictatorships.

North Korea begs for food aid from Mongolia as starving state faces 'severe' shortage.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/393846/No...

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76874 Apr 22, 2013
Makr that the "Murrah" Building , in my Post #76872.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76875 Apr 22, 2013
Blue Dog wrote:
Who's to blame? The Gov. Or the fertilizer plant?
The Associated Press is reporting that the fertilizer plant in West, Texas that exploded on Wednesday night hasn’t been inspected by the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) since 1985, nearly three decades ago. It was issued a fine on its last inspection for a violation related to storing ammonia:
Records reviewed by The Associated Press show that OSHA issued the West Chemical & Fertilizer Co., as the plant was called at the time, a $30 fine for a serious violation for storage of anhydrous ammonia.
OSHA cited the plant for four other serious violations of respiratory protection standards but did not issue fines. The maximum fine for a serious violation was $1,000.
The plant was also cited for failing to get a permit in 2006 after a complaint of a strong ammonia smell. That smell was reported to be “very bad” on the night of the explosion. Storing ammonia at fertilizer plants can be very hazardous; in 2008, the Center for American Progress found a fertilizer plant that stored millions of pounds of anhydrous ammonia in Pasadena, Texas to be among the most hazardous chemical facilities in the country, with more than 3 million people living in range of a worst-case ammonia gas release.
A day after the explosion in West, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a new report documenting a widespread lack of workplace inspections by state OSHA programs. After surveying 22 state-run programs, it found that the agencies had problems with hiring and retaining inspectors, in part due to low pay. State budget cuts have had a big impact, leading to funding problems, and the federal agency often hasn’t taken over state plans because its own budget is too tight. This has meant that a workplace only gets a visit from OSHA inspectors every 99 years on average, with some state programs even worse. In Texas, a plant can only expect an inspection every 126 years.
We are all to blame. Poll the public on regulating the safety of the workplace and they are overwhelmingly for reasonable regulations and inspections. Poll the public on government inspections of industry to assure the safety of people who live nearby, and again, the public wants the factories, refineries, chemical plants etc inspected to assure their safety....But poll the public on raising taxes to pay for those inspections and NO SIR we don't need no darn taxes....Politicians know this so they create a facade of safety inspections, with weak fines for the few plants that are caught. A win-win for the business owners, the politicians, and the taxpayers UNTIL something happens....

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76876 Apr 22, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
A prime example of socialism - as is so often the case, socialist societies devolve into dictatorships.
North Korea begs for food aid from Mongolia as starving state faces 'severe' shortage.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/393846/No...
Man, that post is a "Disconnect", if I ever read a Post that was. South Korea is a Democracy, just like this Country and it's prospering.
But, if you TEApublicans had your way, you'd turn this this Country into a Plutocracy in a heartbeat and you're fighting with all the power you've got and with all the money your Super wealthy benefactors will give you, to do it as we speak.

North Korea is doing the same thing it always does, when it's spent all of it's money on it's Military and Bomb-making, and it's People are starving. It's acting up , so that We, and some other Free Nations, will give it food and money to make it calm down. It worked for his Daddy and he's doing the same thing...since it's his first time, he just about over-played his hand, though, and came close to getting blown off the Map. He should be grateful to South Korea because if they weren't our Ally, we would probably already have taken him down. The Fall-out would have harmed them somewhat and I think, that's the only reason that we didn't...that, & we didn't want to make the first move.
But, had it not been for South Korea, we would have ended him, if he had so much as sneezed in our direction. He better take good care of South Korea, if he's smart, because they are his protection, when he starts throwing his Temper Tantrums, because he wants Food and Money!
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#76877 Apr 22, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, they know! They're probably just not officially admitting it. Google Anhydrous Ammonia and see if you would want to work around hundreds or thousands of pounds of it, which is how much was stored in that Plant!
As I posted before, which you obviously, didn't read...it's what Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Murray Building in OKlahoma City!
What does this have to do with what caused the explosion?

Guess what is going to be the cause?

A worker who screwed up.

But no matter what, you will blame the company. I can see that in my crystal ball.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76878 Apr 22, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
Man, that post is a "Disconnect", if I ever read a Post that was. South Korea is a Democracy, just like this Country and it's prospering.
But, if you TEApublicans had your way, you'd turn this this Country into a Plutocracy in a heartbeat and you're fighting with all the power you've got and with all the money your Super wealthy benefactors will give you, to do it as we speak.
North Korea is doing the same thing it always does, when it's spent all of it's money on it's Military and Bomb-making, and it's People are starving. It's acting up , so that We, and some other Free Nations, will give it food and money to make it calm down. It worked for his Daddy and he's doing the same thing...since it's his first time, he just about over-played his hand, though, and came close to getting blown off the Map. He should be grateful to South Korea because if they weren't our Ally, we would probably already have taken him down. The Fall-out would have harmed them somewhat and I think, that's the only reason that we didn't...that, & we didn't want to make the first move.
But, had it not been for South Korea, we would have ended him, if he had so much as sneezed in our direction. He better take good care of South Korea, if he's smart, because they are his protection, when he starts throwing his Temper Tantrums, because he wants Food and Money!
The issue is that NORTH Korea is a socialist-dictatorship.

Plus, the United States is NOT a Democracy.
Bayless

South Pittsburg, TN

#76879 Apr 22, 2013
Friday's adjourning of the Tennessee General Assembly marked the earliest date lawmakers closed up shop since 1990, and it was done having clocked the smaller number of legislative days since 1976.

In all, the Legislature was in session a little more than three months.

Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey issued a statement Friday afternoon, praising House and Senate members for moving quickly. Ramsey said the early finish ultimately saved taxpayer dollars for Tennesseans.

"The longer a legislature is in session, the longer the average taxpayer has to watch his wallet," Ramsey said. "I have always maintained that an efficient and focused General Assembly can finish the people's business on time and save taxpayer dollars in the process."

In 2012, the Legislature closed the books on May 1, and in 2011, lawmakers adjourned and left in late May.

Notable accomplishments for lawmakers this session included passage of a bill overhauling the way workers' comp claims are processed, approval of a measure to allow handgun permit holders to keep guns locked in their vehicles and successful legislation to allow voters to decide on an income tax ban at the ballot box in 2014.

Regarding bills of local interest, lawmakers approved a measure that will allow distilleries, such as Chattanooga Whiskey, to operate and sell their products in Hamilton County.

Left dead for the year were a plan championed by Ramsey that would have redrawn the lines for Tennessee's judicial districts, a charter authorizer bill backed by House Speaker Beth Harwell, Gov. Bill Haslam's proposal for school vouchers and legislation that would have allowed wine to be sold in grocery stores in Tennessee.

The General Assembly was also not required to discuss expanding Tennessee's Medicaid program under ObamaCare—a discussion widely anticipated for this year's session. Instead, Haslam opted to defer on making a decision to either deny or accept a federal offer to expand TennCare while continuing discussion with the Department of Health and Human Services regarding a "third option" to use federal dollars to purchase private insurance plans.

Barring the unlikely callback for a special session to debate a TennCare expansion, lawmakers will return to Nashville for the second session of the 108th General Assembly on Jan. 14, 2014.
shebazz

Townsend, TN

#76880 Apr 22, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
A prime example of socialism - as is so often the case, socialist societies devolve into dictatorships.
North Korea begs for food aid from Mongolia as starving state faces 'severe' shortage.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/393846/No...
France
Norway
Sweden
Ireland
Denmark
Netherlands
All these countries are socialist or at least have socialist overtones and they aren't dictatorships. Oh, and they all spend abput half of what we do on healthcare and their healthcare systems are rated far far better than ours by the W.H.O.
Bayless

South Pittsburg, TN

#76881 Apr 22, 2013
shebazz wrote:
<quoted text>
France
Norway
Sweden
Ireland
Denmark
Netherlands
All these countries are socialist or at least have socialist overtones and they aren't dictatorships. Oh, and they all spend abput half of what we do on healthcare and their healthcare systems are rated far far better than ours by the W.H.O.
Their economies pale in comparison to ours. If you are so impressed with the opinion of the WHO, go to those countries and get health'care'.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#76882 Apr 22, 2013
Where all the media talking heads wondering why Obama and his Homeland Security Dept could not "connect the dots" to prevent the Boston Massacre?

Janet's head should be on the block.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#76883 Apr 22, 2013
shebazz wrote:
<quoted text>
France
Norway
Sweden
Ireland
Denmark
Netherlands
All these countries are socialist or at least have socialist overtones and they aren't dictatorships. Oh, and they all spend abput half of what we do on healthcare and their healthcare systems are rated far far better than ours by the W.H.O.
Very Good!
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#76884 Apr 22, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
Where all the media talking heads wondering why Obama and his Homeland Security Dept could not "connect the dots" to prevent the Boston Massacre?
Janet's head should be on the block.
Are you for real?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76885 Apr 22, 2013
Bayless wrote:
Friday's adjourning of the Tennessee General Assembly marked the earliest date lawmakers closed up shop since 1990, and it was done having clocked the smaller number of legislative days since 1976.
In all, the Legislature was in session a little more than three months.
Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey issued a statement Friday afternoon, praising House and Senate members for moving quickly. Ramsey said the early finish ultimately saved taxpayer dollars for Tennesseans.
"The longer a legislature is in session, the longer the average taxpayer has to watch his wallet," Ramsey said. "I have always maintained that an efficient and focused General Assembly can finish the people's business on time and save taxpayer dollars in the process."
In 2012, the Legislature closed the books on May 1, and in 2011, lawmakers adjourned and left in late May.
Notable accomplishments for lawmakers this session included passage of a bill overhauling the way workers' comp claims are processed, approval of a measure to allow handgun permit holders to keep guns locked in their vehicles and successful legislation to allow voters to decide on an income tax ban at the ballot box in 2014.
Regarding bills of local interest, lawmakers approved a measure that will allow distilleries, such as Chattanooga Whiskey, to operate and sell their products in Hamilton County.
Left dead for the year were a plan championed by Ramsey that would have redrawn the lines for Tennessee's judicial districts, a charter authorizer bill backed by House Speaker Beth Harwell, Gov. Bill Haslam's proposal for school vouchers and legislation that would have allowed wine to be sold in grocery stores in Tennessee.
The General Assembly was also not required to discuss expanding Tennessee's Medicaid program under ObamaCare—a discussion widely anticipated for this year's session. Instead, Haslam opted to defer on making a decision to either deny or accept a federal offer to expand TennCare while continuing discussion with the Department of Health and Human Services regarding a "third option" to use federal dollars to purchase private insurance plans.
Barring the unlikely callback for a special session to debate a TennCare expansion, lawmakers will return to Nashville for the second session of the 108th General Assembly on Jan. 14, 2014.
Yeah Buddy, that's a fine bunch of TEApublicans that we've got running this State, alright...almost as good as the bunch we've got running the U.S. House of Representatives!

I think we should sent them all to work in some Fertilizer Plants. I'm sure TN. has some and that would be a place much more suitable to their capabilities...just make sure it's an isolated one because one of them , or more, is sure to screw that up too, & you know they're not going to follow any of the common-sense Rules and I doubt if we have any Regulations, but they wouldn't follow them, if we did. So, we don't want any innocent People to get blown to smithereens because they've done enough to damage Tennesseans, already!
You think Haslam decided that getting his Family Business's Fraud Defense together was more important that running the State? I doubt that we're saving money by paying him and all the rest of the Legislator's salaries for over 8 months of doing NOTHING! I may be stupid, but I'm not THAT stupid!
I always had to work for my money, I kinda like my Governor and State Legislators to do the same...and that means more than 3 and a half months out of the year!
No doubt about it, Folks, being a TEApublican TN. Governor or Legislator is a SWEET job, if you can get it...for THEM, but not for US!
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#76886 Apr 22, 2013
Bayless wrote:
Friday's adjourning of the Tennessee General Assembly marked the earliest date lawmakers closed up shop since 1990, and it was done having clocked the smaller number of legislative days since 1976.
In all, the Legislature was in session a little more than three months.
Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey issued a statement Friday afternoon, praising House and Senate members for moving quickly. Ramsey said the early finish ultimately saved taxpayer dollars for Tennesseans.
"The longer a legislature is in session, the longer the average taxpayer has to watch his wallet," Ramsey said. "I have always maintained that an efficient and focused General Assembly can finish the people's business on time and save taxpayer dollars in the process."
In 2012, the Legislature closed the books on May 1, and in 2011, lawmakers adjourned and left in late May.
Notable accomplishments for lawmakers this session included passage of a bill overhauling the way workers' comp claims are processed, approval of a measure to allow handgun permit holders to keep guns locked in their vehicles and successful legislation to allow voters to decide on an income tax ban at the ballot box in 2014.
Regarding bills of local interest, lawmakers approved a measure that will allow distilleries, such as Chattanooga Whiskey, to operate and sell their products in Hamilton County.
Left dead for the year were a plan championed by Ramsey that would have redrawn the lines for Tennessee's judicial districts, a charter authorizer bill backed by House Speaker Beth Harwell, Gov. Bill Haslam's proposal for school vouchers and legislation that would have allowed wine to be sold in grocery stores in Tennessee.
The General Assembly was also not required to discuss expanding Tennessee's Medicaid program under ObamaCare—a discussion widely anticipated for this year's session. Instead, Haslam opted to defer on making a decision to either deny or accept a federal offer to expand TennCare while continuing discussion with the Department of Health and Human Services regarding a "third option" to use federal dollars to purchase private insurance plans.
Barring the unlikely callback for a special session to debate a TennCare expansion, lawmakers will return to Nashville for the second session of the 108th General Assembly on Jan. 14, 2014.
Long story, short.....LT. GOV. Ramsey stated the shorter the session the more things that can be accomplished thus saving all of us more money.......what a novel concept.
WHAT WORLD DOES HE LIVE IN?
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76887 Apr 22, 2013
Bayless wrote:
Friday's adjourning of the Tennessee General Assembly marked the earliest date lawmakers closed up shop since 1990, and it was done having clocked the smaller number of legislative days since 1976.
In all, the Legislature was in session a little more than three months.
Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey issued a statement Friday afternoon, praising House and Senate members for moving quickly. Ramsey said the early finish ultimately saved taxpayer dollars for Tennesseans.
"The longer a legislature is in session, the longer the average taxpayer has to watch his wallet," Ramsey said. "I have always maintained that an efficient and focused General Assembly can finish the people's business on time and save taxpayer dollars in the process."
In 2012, the Legislature closed the books on May 1, and in 2011, lawmakers adjourned and left in late May.
Notable accomplishments for lawmakers this session included passage of a bill overhauling the way workers' comp claims are processed, approval of a measure to allow handgun permit holders to keep guns locked in their vehicles and successful legislation to allow voters to decide on an income tax ban at the ballot box in 2014.
Regarding bills of local interest, lawmakers approved a measure that will allow distilleries, such as Chattanooga Whiskey, to operate and sell their products in Hamilton County.
Left dead for the year were a plan championed by Ramsey that would have redrawn the lines for Tennessee's judicial districts, a charter authorizer bill backed by House Speaker Beth Harwell, Gov. Bill Haslam's proposal for school vouchers and legislation that would have allowed wine to be sold in grocery stores in Tennessee.
The General Assembly was also not required to discuss expanding Tennessee's Medicaid program under ObamaCare—a discussion widely anticipated for this year's session. Instead, Haslam opted to defer on making a decision to either deny or accept a federal offer to expand TennCare while continuing discussion with the Department of Health and Human Services regarding a "third option" to use federal dollars to purchase private insurance plans.
Barring the unlikely callback for a special session to debate a TennCare expansion, lawmakers will return to Nashville for the second session of the 108th General Assembly on Jan. 14, 2014.
Yes, thst's quite a legislative record. I'm sure every Tennesseean is happy that they can now bring their gun to work....if they don't have a job anymore, or are one of the working poor, they can't get expanded Medicaid, a program that we taxpayers in Tennessee are paying, for folks in other states, but not our own...Yes sir... a red letter year for the legislature of Tn.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#76891 Apr 22, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, thst's quite a legislative record. I'm sure every Tennesseean is happy that they can now bring their gun to work....if they don't have a job anymore, or are one of the working poor, they can't get expanded Medicaid, a program that we taxpayers in Tennessee are paying, for folks in other states, but not our own...Yes sir... a red letter year for the legislature of Tn.
Actually, government works best when it's out of session. Now, if we could only get the federal government shut down for 8 months.

OTH, Homeland Security may not have been able to connect the dots to prevent the Boston Massacre if they were on furlough.

Oh, yeah. They were too busy buying up all the bullets to prevent that.

Nappy Janet's gotta go.
Notfromhere

Longview, TX

#76892 Apr 22, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, you wouldn't make such ridiculous Posts if you EVER read a News Article , or watched and listened to the News Reports, first. It's so painfully obvious that you NEVER do any of the aforementioned, not even the One in the Post Link that you responded to!
Some Posters really strive to remain ignorant and revel in doing so! I guess ignorance is truly Bliss for some People!
Coming from the
Queen of ridiculous posts, you should know! This literally made me LOL!
Pete

Clemmons, NC

#76893 Apr 22, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Pete, allow me to ask you a hypothetical question, lets say one of you employees while working on the job, doing everything right, had a accident and lost both legs, and his job(top paying) required him to use both legs. Now would you give him a latteral job, or a less paying job or just wait until you had a reason to fire him?
To answer your question about my experience with the Labor Dept., I have no experience........that is what I pay my Union agent for.
Now about this fertilizer plant in Texas! My Liberal Ideology does not overshadow the fact that they had been storing 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by the DHS. They did not tell the DHS about this. Hey it's just another pesky regulation that Republicans can't stand.

Republicans and Labor rights.
Republicans at this very moment are making a new platform to weaken the powers of Unions./
Hi Dunlapian. First, hope you are doing well. Second, I do appreciate the initiative you take regarding researching the reason for differing viewpoints. I also appreciate you giving me the opportunity to explain.

I would be happy to answer your hypothetical question. The answer is a little more complicated than what you have depicted. The answer depends on what the employee is qualified to do. If he/she was capable of performing another job that did not require the use of legs, then that employee would indeed get a lateral job offer. If that employee did not have the capability of performing another job, that employee would qualify for disability through both workmanship comp and through our company provided disability insurance and would start receiving disability benefits. As I stated earlier, firing is not an option for any employer when an employee gets hurt at work. Wherever you heard that information I don't know, but that information is incorrect.

I don't know how long you have been retired, but workman's comp works pretty well without any involvement by a third party. In fact, I really don't see how a third party can possibly get involved. Unions aren't necessary on any workmanship comp claim. And since I provide disability insurance for my employees, a unions involvement would only jeopardize that benefit.

Regarding the fertilizer plant, your point is well taken and I agree with you. However, politicizing this event is unnecessary and you don't know if the owners of the fertilizer plant are republicans or democrats. This is what I mean when I mention "ideology."

Finally, if the link you posted is actually true, I agree with it. For the most part, in my opinion, unions do more harm than good. Businesses actually want to attract good employees and keep them. Most will ensure they are competitive with wages and benefits to do this. Federal and state laws ensure companies follow strict guidelines regarding labor. Unions are not needed to ensure companies do this and are just one more expense to have to cover over and above the many taxes to ensure survival. The exception to this are employees of the government. However, unions have caused governments to go bankrupt and have caused governments to have to pay excessive wages and benefits. My definition of excessive is anything over and above what the market wages and benefits are. Which option do you think is better, paying average wages for a particular job and keeping taxes in check or paying excessive wages and benefits and raising taxes to pay for this? The second of these choices is unsustainable. A lady earlier said she scrubbed floors at a hospital her whole life and was ending her career basically broken down and poor. This may sound harsh, but my reply is she should have enhanced her marketable capabilities sometime during her career so that she wouldn't have had to do that her whole life. This is not the hospital's fault. There is an upper end to what floor scrubbing is worth to any organization.
funny but

Paris, TN

#76894 Apr 22, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
wrote:

You know,.........
.......Some Posters really strive to remain ignorant and revel in doing so! I guess ignorance is truly Bliss for some People!
then YOU must be one HAPPY old bit/ch!

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