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Scarlett Pimple

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Apr 22, 2013
 
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I hope these Victims take everything the Owner(s) of this Fertlizer Plant, has...and most of what Texas has, also...if the Law allows that!
If they do, it couldn't happen to a more Deserving Bunch and State!
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Hmmmm. The last news account I heard was that they had not determined the cause of this explosion, yet you have no qualms about blaming it on the owners of the plant.

How un-opinionated of you.
Scarlett Pimple

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This is the Garbage (so-called) News Source that the TEApublicans get all their News(?) from and they believe every lying word of it! No wonder numerous Studies have shown them to be the Most Uninformed, and Misinformed, People in America!
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"FOX NEWS Host Blames Obama And His Middle East Policy For The Boston Bombings."
Click here:
http://www.examiner.com/article/fox-news-host...
As the Boston Bombing news developed throughout the week, FOX News Channel was the most-watched cable news network among Total Viewers.

FNC's Monday through Thursday average topped both CNN and MSNBC in total viewers and demo for both total day and prime time. Additional details below.

4-DAY AVERAGE TOTAL DAY

FNC: 1,647,000 total viewers (421,000 in the demo)

CNN: 1,048,000 total viewers (403,000 in the demo)

MSNBC: 515,000 total viewers (162,000 in the demo)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/19/f...

The Pew Research Center found that fully 85 percent of MSNBC's reports are commentary and not news.

http://stateofthemedia.org/2013/special-repor...

Apparently Americans agree with this assessment and choose not to watch MSNBC when they're looking for real information about breaking news events.

Maybe it's time cable and satellite television providers realized this and took appropriate action by moving MSNBC away from real news channels in their station guides.
Blue Dog

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#76861
Apr 22, 2013
 
Who's to blame? The Gov. Or the fertilizer plant?

The Associated Press is reporting that the fertilizer plant in West, Texas that exploded on Wednesday night hasn’t been inspected by the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) since 1985, nearly three decades ago. It was issued a fine on its last inspection for a violation related to storing ammonia:
Records reviewed by The Associated Press show that OSHA issued the West Chemical & Fertilizer Co., as the plant was called at the time, a $30 fine for a serious violation for storage of anhydrous ammonia.
OSHA cited the plant for four other serious violations of respiratory protection standards but did not issue fines. The maximum fine for a serious violation was $1,000.
The plant was also cited for failing to get a permit in 2006 after a complaint of a strong ammonia smell. That smell was reported to be “very bad” on the night of the explosion. Storing ammonia at fertilizer plants can be very hazardous; in 2008, the Center for American Progress found a fertilizer plant that stored millions of pounds of anhydrous ammonia in Pasadena, Texas to be among the most hazardous chemical facilities in the country, with more than 3 million people living in range of a worst-case ammonia gas release.
A day after the explosion in West, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a new report documenting a widespread lack of workplace inspections by state OSHA programs. After surveying 22 state-run programs, it found that the agencies had problems with hiring and retaining inspectors, in part due to low pay. State budget cuts have had a big impact, leading to funding problems, and the federal agency often hasn’t taken over state plans because its own budget is too tight. This has meant that a workplace only gets a visit from OSHA inspectors every 99 years on average, with some state programs even worse. In Texas, a plant can only expect an inspection every 126 years.
Dunlapian

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#76862
Apr 22, 2013
 
Pete wrote:
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Hitch most
Here's what you said -
What I am sure of is the fact when an employee gets hurt bad enough working for a non-union company in Tennessee he/she gets fired and we the tax payers have to pick up the tab for for that employee to go on disability benefits, not the company having to step up to the plate and explaining how this accident happened and they were following OSHA guidelines to the tee.
Well, if they were at work and got hurt, no, they would not get fired. You are wrong.
The new regulations are put in place to stop workmanship com scammers for driving up the cost of this insurance. This increases jobs, benefits and raises to employees. And the employee loses no rights. How in the world do you determine this to be bad and what republican has told you they are not for labor regulations?
BTW, the explosion happened at a fertilizer plant. What do you think they make fertilizer out of? Once again, your liberal ideology is overshadowing the facts. Exactly what experience do you have with the Department of Labor? I can tell you I have a lot and what you describe I have never seen. We've had plenty of people get hurt at work and not one was fired nor lost a paycheck. Every employee in the state receives these benefits, not due to a union but because employers like me are mandated to pay for it. And I am not even covered by it. You are actually condemning the very people who enable these benefits and state taxes aren't ever used to pay for this insurance. You're way off base with this opinion of yours.
Pete, allow me to ask you a hypothetical question, lets say one of you employees while working on the job, doing everything right, had a accident and lost both legs, and his job(top paying) required him to use both legs. Now would you give him a latteral job, or a less paying job or just wait until you had a reason to fire him?
To answer your question about my experience with the Labor Dept., I have no experience........that is what I pay my Union agent for.

Now about this fertilizer plant in Texas! My Liberal Ideology does not overshadow the fact that they had been storing 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by the DHS. They did not tell the DHS about this. Hey it's just another pesky regulation that Republicans can't stand.

Now the next issue;
Republicans and Labor rights.
Republicans at this very moment are making a new platform to weaken the powers of Unions.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30...
Dunlapian

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Scarlett Pimple wrote:
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As the Boston Bombing news developed throughout the week, FOX News Channel was the most-watched cable news network among Total Viewers.
FNC's Monday through Thursday average topped both CNN and MSNBC in total viewers and demo for both total day and prime time. Additional details below.
4-DAY AVERAGE TOTAL DAY
FNC: 1,647,000 total viewers (421,000 in the demo)
CNN: 1,048,000 total viewers (403,000 in the demo)
MSNBC: 515,000 total viewers (162,000 in the demo)
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/19/f...
The Pew Research Center found that fully 85 percent of MSNBC's reports are commentary and not news.
http://stateofthemedia.org/2013/special-repor...
Apparently Americans agree with this assessment and choose not to watch MSNBC when they're looking for real information about breaking news events.
Maybe it's time cable and satellite television providers realized this and took appropriate action by moving MSNBC away from real news channels in their station guides.
........so I guess what you are saying is the quality of the news depends on how many people watch it.
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#76864
Apr 22, 2013
 
Try again, Republicans and Labor rights;

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30...
Dunlapian

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#76865
Apr 22, 2013
 
Blue Dog wrote:
Who's to blame? The Gov. Or the fertilizer plant?
The Associated Press is reporting that the fertilizer plant in West, Texas that exploded on Wednesday night hasn’t been inspected by the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) since 1985, nearly three decades ago. It was issued a fine on its last inspection for a violation related to storing ammonia:
Records reviewed by The Associated Press show that OSHA issued the West Chemical & Fertilizer Co., as the plant was called at the time, a $30 fine for a serious violation for storage of anhydrous ammonia.
OSHA cited the plant for four other serious violations of respiratory protection standards but did not issue fines. The maximum fine for a serious violation was $1,000.
The plant was also cited for failing to get a permit in 2006 after a complaint of a strong ammonia smell. That smell was reported to be “very bad” on the night of the explosion. Storing ammonia at fertilizer plants can be very hazardous; in 2008, the Center for American Progress found a fertilizer plant that stored millions of pounds of anhydrous ammonia in Pasadena, Texas to be among the most hazardous chemical facilities in the country, with more than 3 million people living in range of a worst-case ammonia gas release.
A day after the explosion in West, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a new report documenting a widespread lack of workplace inspections by state OSHA programs. After surveying 22 state-run programs, it found that the agencies had problems with hiring and retaining inspectors, in part due to low pay. State budget cuts have had a big impact, leading to funding problems, and the federal agency often hasn’t taken over state plans because its own budget is too tight. This has meant that a workplace only gets a visit from OSHA inspectors every 99 years on average, with some state programs even worse. In Texas, a plant can only expect an inspection every 126 years.
Good point; the Gov't or the fertilizer plant.
I for one would say after you strip down OSHA, to the point that it does not pay enough for the work you do and you end up with a Dept. that can't really function as a Dept. that it was designed to do.....I would say it's the governments fault, for letting others tear it down.
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#76866
Apr 22, 2013
 
SexySassySenior wrote:
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban (interchangable) are going to be a problem for us, for a very long time to come, I believe.
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The Taliban, might just of bit off more than they can handle........"The Turks",.......they are BMF's.

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Scarlett Pimple wrote:
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Hmmmm. The last news account I heard was that they had not determined the cause of this explosion, yet you have no qualms about blaming it on the owners of the plant.
How un-opinionated of you.
You know, you wouldn't make such ridiculous Posts if you EVER read a News Article , or watched and listened to the News Reports, first. It's so painfully obvious that you NEVER do any of the aforementioned, not even the One in the Post Link that you responded to!
Some Posters really strive to remain ignorant and revel in doing so! I guess ignorance is truly Bliss for some People!

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<quoted text>The Taliban, might just of bit off more than they can handle........"The Turks",.......they are BMF's.
Hey, that works for me! Go Turks! BTW, I've been told that before by a Veteran who was stationed there a few times.

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LMAO! This is not funny, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read it. Why are all the Elvis Impersonators going beserk??? The Guy in Corinth, MS. that mailed the Risin-laced Letters was an Elvis Imperonator, too! I mean, get real...what are the odds...within a week of each other...two of them? Beam me up, Scotty, things are getting stranger than fiction down here on Planet Earth!
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"Elvis Impersonator Triggers 30-Hour Police Stand-off In Iowa."

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Scarlett Pimple

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You know, you wouldn't make such ridiculous Posts if you EVER read a News Article , or watched and listened to the News Reports, first. It's so painfully obvious that you NEVER do any of the aforementioned, not even the One in the Post Link that you responded to!
Some Posters really strive to remain ignorant and revel in doing so! I guess ignorance is truly Bliss for some People!
Unlike you I don't get news from my crystal ball.

Officials still don't know what caused Texas fertilizer explosion

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/21/17...

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The two brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, who police say engaged in a gun battle with officers early Friday after a frenzied manhunt, were not licensed to own guns in the towns where they lived, authorities said on Sunday.

So as usual, a state with insanely strict gun laws and permits does NOT stop a bad guy from getting a gun. And before the nuts go on about background checks, its already illegal in MA to buy a gun without one.. so National Registration AKA Background checks stop no crime either.

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Scarlett Pimple wrote:
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Unlike you I don't get news from my crystal ball.
Officials still don't know what caused Texas fertilizer explosion
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/21/17...
Oh, they know! They're probably just not officially admitting it. Google Anhydrous Ammonia and see if you would want to work around hundreds or thousands of pounds of it, which is how much was stored in that Plant!
As I posted before, which you obviously, didn't read...it's what Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Murray Building in OKlahoma City!

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A prime example of socialism - as is so often the case, socialist societies devolve into dictatorships.

North Korea begs for food aid from Mongolia as starving state faces 'severe' shortage.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/393846/No...

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Apr 22, 2013
 
Makr that the "Murrah" Building , in my Post #76872.
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Blue Dog wrote:
Who's to blame? The Gov. Or the fertilizer plant?
The Associated Press is reporting that the fertilizer plant in West, Texas that exploded on Wednesday night hasn’t been inspected by the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) since 1985, nearly three decades ago. It was issued a fine on its last inspection for a violation related to storing ammonia:
Records reviewed by The Associated Press show that OSHA issued the West Chemical & Fertilizer Co., as the plant was called at the time, a $30 fine for a serious violation for storage of anhydrous ammonia.
OSHA cited the plant for four other serious violations of respiratory protection standards but did not issue fines. The maximum fine for a serious violation was $1,000.
The plant was also cited for failing to get a permit in 2006 after a complaint of a strong ammonia smell. That smell was reported to be “very bad” on the night of the explosion. Storing ammonia at fertilizer plants can be very hazardous; in 2008, the Center for American Progress found a fertilizer plant that stored millions of pounds of anhydrous ammonia in Pasadena, Texas to be among the most hazardous chemical facilities in the country, with more than 3 million people living in range of a worst-case ammonia gas release.
A day after the explosion in West, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a new report documenting a widespread lack of workplace inspections by state OSHA programs. After surveying 22 state-run programs, it found that the agencies had problems with hiring and retaining inspectors, in part due to low pay. State budget cuts have had a big impact, leading to funding problems, and the federal agency often hasn’t taken over state plans because its own budget is too tight. This has meant that a workplace only gets a visit from OSHA inspectors every 99 years on average, with some state programs even worse. In Texas, a plant can only expect an inspection every 126 years.
We are all to blame. Poll the public on regulating the safety of the workplace and they are overwhelmingly for reasonable regulations and inspections. Poll the public on government inspections of industry to assure the safety of people who live nearby, and again, the public wants the factories, refineries, chemical plants etc inspected to assure their safety....But poll the public on raising taxes to pay for those inspections and NO SIR we don't need no darn taxes....Politicians know this so they create a facade of safety inspections, with weak fines for the few plants that are caught. A win-win for the business owners, the politicians, and the taxpayers UNTIL something happens....

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A prime example of socialism - as is so often the case, socialist societies devolve into dictatorships.
North Korea begs for food aid from Mongolia as starving state faces 'severe' shortage.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/393846/No...
Man, that post is a "Disconnect", if I ever read a Post that was. South Korea is a Democracy, just like this Country and it's prospering.
But, if you TEApublicans had your way, you'd turn this this Country into a Plutocracy in a heartbeat and you're fighting with all the power you've got and with all the money your Super wealthy benefactors will give you, to do it as we speak.

North Korea is doing the same thing it always does, when it's spent all of it's money on it's Military and Bomb-making, and it's People are starving. It's acting up , so that We, and some other Free Nations, will give it food and money to make it calm down. It worked for his Daddy and he's doing the same thing...since it's his first time, he just about over-played his hand, though, and came close to getting blown off the Map. He should be grateful to South Korea because if they weren't our Ally, we would probably already have taken him down. The Fall-out would have harmed them somewhat and I think, that's the only reason that we didn't...that, & we didn't want to make the first move.
But, had it not been for South Korea, we would have ended him, if he had so much as sneezed in our direction. He better take good care of South Korea, if he's smart, because they are his protection, when he starts throwing his Temper Tantrums, because he wants Food and Money!
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SexySassySenior wrote:
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Oh, they know! They're probably just not officially admitting it. Google Anhydrous Ammonia and see if you would want to work around hundreds or thousands of pounds of it, which is how much was stored in that Plant!
As I posted before, which you obviously, didn't read...it's what Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Murray Building in OKlahoma City!
What does this have to do with what caused the explosion?

Guess what is going to be the cause?

A worker who screwed up.

But no matter what, you will blame the company. I can see that in my crystal ball.

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Man, that post is a "Disconnect", if I ever read a Post that was. South Korea is a Democracy, just like this Country and it's prospering.
But, if you TEApublicans had your way, you'd turn this this Country into a Plutocracy in a heartbeat and you're fighting with all the power you've got and with all the money your Super wealthy benefactors will give you, to do it as we speak.
North Korea is doing the same thing it always does, when it's spent all of it's money on it's Military and Bomb-making, and it's People are starving. It's acting up , so that We, and some other Free Nations, will give it food and money to make it calm down. It worked for his Daddy and he's doing the same thing...since it's his first time, he just about over-played his hand, though, and came close to getting blown off the Map. He should be grateful to South Korea because if they weren't our Ally, we would probably already have taken him down. The Fall-out would have harmed them somewhat and I think, that's the only reason that we didn't...that, & we didn't want to make the first move.
But, had it not been for South Korea, we would have ended him, if he had so much as sneezed in our direction. He better take good care of South Korea, if he's smart, because they are his protection, when he starts throwing his Temper Tantrums, because he wants Food and Money!
The issue is that NORTH Korea is a socialist-dictatorship.

Plus, the United States is NOT a Democracy.

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