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<quoted text> Has anyone ever tried to stop you from posting ? Has anyone ever reported YOU for some of the trash you post ?
You were the one reporting post after post from those who disagreed with you, trying to gain an advantage. Now you act like the wronged party, as if all those reported should suddenly love you....Give me a break.
You have no interest in contributing to this thread. All you are here for is to antagonize "Sassy" and there are more than enough of those posters on here already. Act like somebody and you will be treated like somebody, or reap what you sow.
I don't recall answering to you.
Read her posts about who she thinks I am in spite of the FACT that I have told the dumbass over and over.She spends her time trying to find Joe Kyle.And trying to nosy into posters sex lives or what gender they are.She makes their business her business and there is nothing YOU post worth reading.You need to do as you preach.You DO NOT OWN THI THREAD TO TELL OTHERS WHAT TO DO.You should post your little 2 cents and stop intimidating others.You help run posters off .You are so behind times.You only want a one sided debate if YOU call it that,your side.You all have RUN every poster who was of value off with your ignorance.Thinking you all have the run of the THREAD.HOGS.YOUall think you haveall the answers,how stupid you are.Braggert.
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You seem to be the queen of main attraction too.
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Overtaxed

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Omen wrote:
Well, looky here. The IRS just released new data, and guess what? Turns out that all that democrat pablum about the rich paying less of a tax rate is just plain oleí BS.
http://www.irs.gov/PUP/taxstats/productsandpu...
According to the IRS, people who make $1 million or more had an average tax rate of 20.4 percent in 2010.
But I thought they paid a SMALLER percentage. At least thatís what Obama said.
And get this, tax filers who earned $30,000 to $50,000 paid an average rate of 4.8 percent, while those who made between $50,000 and $100,000 paid 7.7 percent.
And what about those who make under $30K? They had a NEGATIVE effective rate, meaning they paid no federal income taxes after deductions and credits.
So, put another way, millionaires pay a rate thatís more than four times that of the middle class.
LIES! Republican LIES!
Ďceptin, them figgers come from the IRS, not Faux News.
Indeed, once you make $2 million, average tax rates do start to decrease. The average tax rate peaks at 25.1 percent for those making between $1.5 million and $2 million. After that it starts to go down, and falls to 20.7 percent for those making $10 million or more. This is due to the fact that once you get above $2 million, your share of income from investments increases which is taxed at the 15 percent capital-gains rate, and those making $10 million or more earned nearly half of it from capital gains and dividends.
But thatís STILL 4 times what the rest of us pay.
So, this entire war on the rich because they donít pay their fair share is bunk.
What other things have liberals and democrats lied about?
There is one thing I KNOW for certain, I paid a higher percentage of my income in income taxes than Mitt Romney did, and in case you haven't guessed...I didn't earn quite as much as he did..... THEN I paid about 14% payroll tax on top of the income tax. If I can pay that I see no reason why someone making A HUGE amount more than I do would be put at some great disadvantage by paying a slightly higher rate than they currently do.
Then there is the FACT that passive income is taxed at a lower rate than honest labor, AND passive income is not subject to payroll taxes. The wealthy get a sweetheart deal and with the Federal budget perpetually in the red, it will not hurt them to pay 3 or 4 percent more to help pay for that government.

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<quoted text> I haven't gotten the "gifts" either "Unreal" and the idea that we would vote for Democratic candidates without the free stuff seems impossible for these people to believe ! They are so greedy that they can't understand why anyone would want to improve the lives of other Americans with our tax dollars.
I suspect that there are a LOT fewer of "them" on this thread than we are led to believe. For instance old "Willard" and "Maryann" and "Carol". Then there are those that are obsessed with "Sassy" like "123" who are here just to aggrivate her.
I no longer expect debate, sadly. Instead insults and goading are the tactics of what is left of the right on here. I have concluded the best course is to get a chuckle by posting Tea Party slogans, unless and until any reasonable Republican surfaces and wants to discuss and debate real issues. That seems pretty unlikely since any reasonable Republican would not be caught dead with the tea party types that populate this thread. Anyway...have a great day !
You don't know what a debate is.All pretend to be.A wannabe.
Old,killing time.This thread is about the old election for governor not the parties.
You all seem to want to throw rocks at others.You have no respect for yourself nor others.You just want to look good because no one else sees your credits which are spoiled by bragging of your so called achievements .
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123pictures wrote:
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I don't recall answering to you.
Read her posts about who she thinks I am in spite of the FACT that I have told the dumbass over and over.She spends her time trying to find Joe Kyle.And trying to nosy into posters sex lives or what gender they are.She makes their business her business and there is nothing YOU post worth reading.You need to do as you preach.You DO NOT OWN THI THREAD TO TELL OTHERS WHAT TO DO.You should post your little 2 cents and stop intimidating others.You help run posters off .You are so behind times.You only want a one sided debate if YOU call it that,your side.You all have RUN every poster who was of value off with your ignorance.Thinking you all have the run of the THREAD.HOGS.YOUall think you haveall the answers,how stupid you are.Braggert.
Intimidating others ? You are slipping a cog "123". I asked who had tried to stop you from posting, and how many others had reported you after you reported pages of posts from others. As usual you didn't answer, instead making this discussion about "Sassy". Are you in love with her "123" ? If you aren't I can't fathom what else would cause you to become unbalanced everytime you post on here. Thinking about "Sassy" doesn't occupy my every waking moment but it is obvious thinking about her does occupy yours.
BTW, when you post on here you invite commentary from other posters. IF you do not like that commentary...I suggest you not post. This site is OBVIOUSLY having a negative effect on your mental health.
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123pictures wrote:
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You don't know what a debate is.All pretend to be.A wannabe.
Old,killing time.This thread is about the old election for governor not the parties.
You all seem to want to throw rocks at others.You have no respect for yourself nor others.You just want to look good because no one else sees your credits which are spoiled by bragging of your so called achievements .
huh?
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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> There is one thing I KNOW for certain, I paid a higher percentage of my income in income taxes than Mitt Romney did, and in case you haven't guessed...I didn't earn quite as much as he did..... THEN I paid about 14% payroll tax on top of the income tax. If I can pay that I see no reason why someone making A HUGE amount more than I do would be put at some great disadvantage by paying a slightly higher rate than they currently do.
Letís accept your premise that people making HUGE amounts can pay more. But every proposal coming from Obama doesnít just hurt people making HUGE amounts of money. Instead they start the tax gouge at $250K, which is not a HUGE amount, especially if you live in one of the big cities.

Why not start the gouge at $1M?
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<quoted text> Then there is the FACT that passive income is taxed at a lower rate than honest labor, AND passive income is not subject to payroll taxes. The wealthy get a sweetheart deal and with the Federal budget perpetually in the red, it will not hurt them to pay 3 or 4 percent more to help pay for that government.
Youíll have to admit that that 3-4% you refer to wonít put a dent in the red ink, will it?

And that 3-4% is a big lie isnít it? Currently, gains from the sale of assets held more than one year are taxed at a rate of 15% for investors in the 25% income tax bracket or higher, and 0% for investors in the 10% or 15% bracket. Those rates are set to expire on Dec. 31 and revert to 20% and 10%, respectively.

Plus, a new 3.8% surtax will take effect in January that will apply to investment income for taxpayers with adjusted gross incomes of either $200,000 potentially pushing the top long-term capital-gains rate to 23.8%.

Thatís not 3-4%, is it?

Do you think that the rich are going to take this sitting down? NO! They are going to move their investments to lower tax or no tax areas. You will actually be fueling investment overseas. So not only will we be losing jobs to China, weíll be losing investment money to them.

Good move.

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john mayer lookalike wrote:
Conservatives give and liberals take!
Really??? BUSH inherited a 230 Billion Dollar SURPLUS from Clinton...and left a 10.6 Trillion Dollar DEBT for Obama.
Now tell me again...who is Big Government and who gives and who takes???

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I wonder if she will get on that committee without a lot of regular voters putting pressure on the leadership. Remember, those Wall Street Banks (as well as other banks) are BIG contributors to the campaigns of both Republicans and Democrats and have highly paid lobbyists to speak for them.....unlike folks like you and I that want her on that committee, UNFORTUNATELY.
Maybe we need to send some emails and make some phone calls!
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Omen wrote:
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Letís accept your premise that people making HUGE amounts can pay more. But every proposal coming from Obama doesnít just hurt people making HUGE amounts of money. Instead they start the tax gouge at $250K, which is not a HUGE amount, especially if you live in one of the big cities.
Why not start the gouge at $1M?
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Youíll have to admit that that 3-4% you refer to wonít put a dent in the red ink, will it?
And that 3-4% is a big lie isnít it? Currently, gains from the sale of assets held more than one year are taxed at a rate of 15% for investors in the 25% income tax bracket or higher, and 0% for investors in the 10% or 15% bracket. Those rates are set to expire on Dec. 31 and revert to 20% and 10%, respectively.
Plus, a new 3.8% surtax will take effect in January that will apply to investment income for taxpayers with adjusted gross incomes of either $200,000 potentially pushing the top long-term capital-gains rate to 23.8%.
Thatís not 3-4%, is it?
Do you think that the rich are going to take this sitting down? NO! They are going to move their investments to lower tax or no tax areas. You will actually be fueling investment overseas. So not only will we be losing jobs to China, weíll be losing investment money to them.
Good move.
Well, 250k isn't a small amount considering the fact that the "gouge" as you put it does not kick in until after they reach that level. The increase only affects the dollars earned over the 250k threshold. Having said that, I will admit that IF a person lives in Mahattan 250k is not wealthy. Perhaps 350k is a better place to begin.
The capital gain rate should in my opinion be set the same as ordinary income and the first 110,000 dollars should be subject to payroll taxes just like ordinary wages are. That would go a long way toward solving the long term viability of Social Security without any changes in that program.
The 3-4% that I was posting about is the income tax rate increase proposed by the administration. That is a far cry from the 91% top rate that existed in 1960 or the 50% rate that existed in the 80's and the wealthy did just fine then.
As far as the movement of investment money overseas, the lowest tax rates in my lifetime have not created a boom economy here BUT they have emptied the treasury of our country AND helped to put us in a position of massive borrowing just to fund ordinary government operation, no to mention extrordinary expenditures for things like wars. The rates should be subject to negotiation BUT there is no doubt in my mind that more tax revenue is necessary if we are to remain a superpower AND meet the basic needs of this country and our citizens.
Fially, I repeat the FACT that I paid a higher rate than Mitt and I paid a substantial additional amount for payroll taxes AND I run a small business. It seems obvious to me that the tax code is not designed to help small businesses, no matter what lip service politicians may pay to us. The code is designed to help the EXTREMELY wealthy at the expense of the rest of us. That is my take, for what it's worth.
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Blessed are the Socialists who play class warfare.

Blessed are those who demonize the producers.

Blessed are the shiftless and lazy.

Bleesed are the crybabies.

Blessed are the jealous.

Bleesed are those who shirk responsibility for themselves and their chosen lifestyle.

Blessed are those who grow old in front of their Playstation.
Overtaxed

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Really Sassy wrote:
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Maybe we need to send some emails and make some phone calls!
I think we may need to "Sassy" ! I have a friend that is fairly well connected who tells me that there are a bunch of Dems who are almost as opposed to having her on that committee as the Republicans are. Washington is a town where nearly everyone is bought and paid for, one way or another. Our side is not immune.
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123pictures wrote:
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You don't know what a debate is.All pretend to be.A wannabe.
Old,killing time.This thread is about the old election for governor not the parties.
You all seem to want to throw rocks at others.You have no respect for yourself nor others.You just want to look good because no one else sees your credits which are spoiled by bragging of your so called achievements .
Bragging about my achievements ? That is silly "123". I have never posted how much I make, how much I donate to charity, what I do for a living other than being in business for myself, how many I employ, where I went to school, or how far I went, if I served my country and how, what clubs I belong to, where I vacation, what I own....I did once mention that I owned a farm that I invited "Vet" to go fishing with me on... and he turned that into my being a "cattle baron" ! Speaking of "bragging about achievements" have you ever met my friend "Vet" ????? Chuckles !!!!
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baby Jesus wrote:
Blessed are the Socialists who play class warfare.
Blessed are those who demonize the producers.
Blessed are the shiftless and lazy.
Bleesed are the crybabies.
Blessed are the jealous.
Bleesed are those who shirk responsibility for themselves and their chosen lifestyle.
Blessed are those who grow old in front of their Playstation.
Tea Party Family Values:FEAR..GREED..HATRED
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Overtaxed wrote:
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Tea Party Family Values:FEAR..GREED..HATRED
Flea Party values:

Fear

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Floridian leech wrote:
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Flea Party values:
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Well Fella, If you're afraid of soap, quit sleeping with your dog & maybe you won't get fleas!

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I think we may need to "Sassy" ! I have a friend that is fairly well connected who tells me that there are a bunch of Dems who are almost as opposed to having her on that committee as the Republicans are. Washington is a town where nearly everyone is bought and paid for, one way or another. Our side is not immune.
I agree but the Dems do seem to value your vote more that the Teapublicans...the Teapublicans think they can lie their way out of anything and the Teapublicans will still vote for them. The Sad thing is, they're right for the most part. But, you lie to a Dem Voter and they will stay at home on Election Day!

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>Bragging about my achievements ? That is silly "123". I have never posted how much I make, how much I donate to charity, what I do for a living other than being in business for myself, how many I employ, where I went to school, or how far I went, if I served my country and how, what clubs I belong to, where I vacation, what I own....I did once mention that I owned a farm that I invited "Vet" to go fishing with me on... and he turned that into my being a "cattle baron" ! Speaking of "bragging about achievements" have you ever met my friend "Vet" ????? Chuckles !!!!
Uh-oh OT, watch what you say about "Vet"...WILLARD will get really "huffy", or at least he did with me when I mentioned Vet!
He made it sound like I was "Ma Barker" or somebody, saying that Vet befriended me at great personal danger to himself. I still don't know what that was all about, So if you don't want WILLARD to go all "James Bond, 007" on you, maybe you should be careful what you say about Vet. Lol!
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Torrent wrote:
<quoted text>Quoted from your bible i see.
I know you are, but what am I?

*snicker*

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I am moving back to West Virginia soon and was just curious about other Northerners who hate this place as much as I do. I am a highly educated individual and yet after having moved here to be with my girlfriend sometime ago I have found that my experience here has been the worst I have ever had in my life. While here I have worked at a university medical library where I worked with a crazy (and I mean literally certifiable) black woman who yelled and screamed almost 100% of the time, let in non university staff into secured areas and showed up hours late for work and left hours early but was never fired. I have also gone to temp agencies where I have had no problem getting administrative work in the past while up north, but here have been told my placements would be administrative or clerical only to find out once I got there that the long term position would be baking bread on a factory floor or doing phone sales. Along with the unbelievable career frustrations I have had in Memphis, I have also had to deal with the fact that even though I am a secular northerner, the first topic that comes up in most discussions I have with the locals is what church do I go to? Answer: None, I'm not a retard. The religiosity of the area makes the Nazi ideology tame in comparison. I mean look at yourselves, you have one of the most regressive tax rates in the nation that puts the burden on the poor and middle class while giving the wealthy a huge tax haven; your state has one of the highest social stratification rates in the country (although Texas will always beat you there); your larger more respectable businesses are moving to the north or cities like Charlotte because businesses are attracted to an educated base and well-developed infrastructure (NOT TAX BREAKS), but since you don't have a state income tax your higher education costs are up to three times more expensive than other northern states; you have no social net in the form of health care cards for the poor/part-time workers/substitute teachers, etc. who have no insurance; you steal from the more wealthy northern states who pay more in federal taxes which then go to Tennessee because of how irresponsible and foolish your right wing Republican controlled state is; your insurance rates are literally twice that of any other state I've lived in; the local sales taxes are FREAKIN' 10% which means a car will cost you thousands more than in most other states; you hate government so much that rather than hire more police, you have put up photo devices to address running red lights, DEVICES THAT EVERY STUDY DONE SHOWS CAUSE 25% MORE ACCIDENTS; the cost of living in general is MUCH higher than much of the north and yet your jobs are shitty warehouse jobs that pay half of what northern wages are. YET despite all of this, all you idiots do is talk about GOD, church, and JESUS! If you love God so Goddamned much, why does your state suck so bad? Get this fundamental bullcrap out of your damn heads and grow the hell up! Your state is freaking awful because you are all lobotomized hypocrites! Your state represents what our founding father's warned us about in their letters that were extremely and rightfully critical of religion. Seriously! ENOUGH! Memphis and its surrounding area is listed as the third worst place in America to live according to Forbes! STOP THE EXTREMIST CHRISTIAN BULLSHIT! IT IS DESTROYING YOUR STATE AND THE SOUTH IN GENERAL! ENOUGH ALREADY!

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