Police: Soldier from Minnesota commits suicide in Kentucky

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Police say a 19-year-old Fort Campbell soldier has died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

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RIP young man.
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I,m so sorry. This is so sad. My heart goes out to the young man and his family.
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21 soldiers at this camp committed suicide in 2009 alone?? 21!? Wow, this seems awfully high. There has to be more to this than meets the eye. May God give his family peace through these troubled times.
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No one should feel this bad. No one should be trapped in a situation that they do not want to be in. No one should be untreated for depression in our country and certainly not in our military personel...God bless this young man. Forgive him and look over his family in your presense let there be Love and Peace. AMEN
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21 suicides last year alone!!! It is time to let these boys and girls go back home! What the hell are we trying to prove anyway? The whole country has been thrown to the wolves to feed the wars and the refugees from the wars.Sadly the troops and the people back home get nothing for it,while the war machine gets everything and foreign interests and hooligans get rich off the tax paying American public.Bring them home,let them live!
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The proportion of suicide incidents in the military are no different than in the general population.

So you people using these tragedies to push your agenda are clueless idiots with no facts or logic to back up your asinine claims.

PS: On a side note, the incidents of child sexual abuse is higher for teachers in the public school system than by priests in the catholic church.

Do you know why you didn't know that? The main stream media is terrible at reportint facts in the correct context.
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What's going on at this camp to make these young people feel they have no other alternative. There needs to be a formal inquiry into all of the deaths at this camp. Something isn't right. Maybe another agency needs to conduct the investigation.
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Here we go again. Blame the military for everything. Surprises me that somone hasn't blamed W. Bush again but then again it's early yet. This is something that should never be news worthy until the facts are in black and white first. Doesn't it seem strange that nothing like this is published in local news when it happens but it's in National headlines when it happens in the military? Wake the hell up people
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M. Galt,

I don't know where you get your stats but there are 22,395 active duty military (O & EM) at Ft. Campbell, KY. 21 suicides is a rate of .00094. The suicide rate in the general population in the 15 - 44 age group is .0004 which means that the suicide rate at Ft. Campbell is more than twice as high as the general population. So who's pushing an agenda and who is the "clueless idiot(s)" here?
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That is the same place my older brother was murdered at, and nothing was ever done about it. And it wasnt the first time soldiers have been murdered at that camp. There is a lot of cover ups there.
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The military clearly needs more resources for soldiers considering suicide. That is not an "agenda," it's a fact. Ignoring this problem is a disservice to our men and women in uniform; they deserve to have a place they can go or someone to talk to for help without fear of reprisal or an impact on their reputation.
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The soul of man does violence to itself, first of all, when it becomes an abscess and, as it were, a tumour on the universe, so far as it can. For to be vexed at anything which happens is a separation of ourselves from nature, in some part of which the natures of all other things are contained. In the next place, the soul does violence to itself when it turns away from any man, or even moves towards him with the intention of injuring, such as are the souls of those who are angry. In the third place, the soul does violence to itself when it is overpowered by pleasure or by pain. Fourthly, when it plays a part, and does or says anything insincerely and untruly. Fifthly, when it allows any act of its own and any movement to be without an aim, and does anything thoughtlessly and without considering what it is, it being right that even the smallest things be done with reference to an end; and the end of rational animals is to follow the reason and the law of the most ancient city and polity.
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Unfortunately, parents and lib--tards raised a few generations of pussified femboys that can't handle life or being a soldier..
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Nienna wrote:
The soul of man does violence to itself, first of all, when it becomes an abscess and, as it were, a tumour on the universe, so far as it can. For to be vexed at anything which happens is a separation of ourselves from nature, in some part of which the natures of all other things are contained. In the next place, the soul does violence to itself when it turns away from any man, or even moves towards him with the intention of injuring, such as are the souls of those who are angry. In the third place, the soul does violence to itself when it is overpowered by pleasure or by pain. Fourthly, when it plays a part, and does or says anything insincerely and untruly. Fifthly, when it allows any act of its own and any movement to be without an aim, and does anything thoughtlessly and without considering what it is, it being right that even the smallest things be done with reference to an end; and the end of rational animals is to follow the reason and the law of the most ancient city and polity.
Put down the crack pipe your phhhu-cking clueless hippie moron....
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John Galt wrote:
The proportion of suicide incidents in the military are no different than in the general population.
So you people using these tragedies to push your agenda are clueless idiots with no facts or logic to back up your asinine claims.
PS: On a side note, the incidents of child sexual abuse is higher for teachers in the public school system than by priests in the catholic church.
Do you know why you didn't know that? The main stream media is terrible at reporting facts in the correct context.
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Lewd wrote:
M. Galt,
I don't know where you get your stats but there are 22,395 active duty military (O & EM) at Ft. Campbell, KY. 21 suicides is a rate of .00094. The suicide rate in the general population in the 15 - 44 age group is .0004 which means that the suicide rate at Ft. Campbell is more than twice as high as the general population. So who's pushing an agenda and who is the "clueless idiot(s)" here?
Speaking as a captain at Fort Campbell, for one please stop calling this a camp. It's a major installation. Second, there's no telling what issues soldiers are dealing with that lead to these incidents, but the army takes them very seriously. Many efforts are made toward suicide prevention, but if a person wants to off themself, they will. Enlisted soldiers do not represent a perfect cross-section of America and never will until we have a draft. In one instance, we had a soldier who deployed and for financial reasons, his girlfriend moved in with his father for the duration of his absence. Next thing we knew, the dad and girlfriend were sleeping together and because dad had a power of attorney and the girlfriend had a joint checking account with the soldier, they drained the poor kid of every penny he had. Technically neither had broken a law so the kid was just out of luck. Sound like a typical American situation to you?

We get all kinds. And 9 weeks of basic training doesn't suddenly and miraculously change what 18 years in a trailer park or 20 years in "da hood" made a person. We do the best we have with what we've got, but everyone has their own life issues and anyone assuming that the cause of suicide was a deployment is presuming an awful lot.
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Shannon wrote:
The military clearly needs more resources for soldiers considering suicide. That is not an "agenda," it's a fact. Ignoring this problem is a disservice to our men and women in uniform; they deserve to have a place they can go or someone to talk to for help without fear of reprisal or an impact on their reputation.
On what do you judge that this doesn't already exist? A soldier has numerous resources to turn to ranging from his chain of command to the chaplain to the office of Adult Behavioral Health (army-speak for counselors) as well as psychiatrists at Blanchfield Army Medical Hospital on Fort Campbell. There is no fear of reprisal as such action would be against regulations, and even if it WAS legal, a 19-year old private has no permanent performance evaluation report in his/her records on which to record it.
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Stop the wars and limit the military.

The US should be a country of peace and compassion.

These poor kids are vulnerable pawns being used and murdered one way or the other.

Deepest sympathy to they young man's family.

The US must learn to treat depression and save lives.
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Comparing suicide rates for the general population as a whole to suicide rates on a military base is a bit misleading because suicide rates vary by age and gender and most service members are in the 19-40 year old age range and there still are many more men than women. For U.S. males as a whole, ages 15-19 20-24, 25-29 and 30-34, suicide rates all fall in the range of 25-28 per 100,000 people in that population. So if there are some 23,000 or so service members at Ft Campbell and they were all male, you could expect about 6-7 suicides per year.

The general rule is that women attempt suicide more frequently than men but men are more successful. So the proportion of Ft Campbell soldiers who are women might change things a bit, but not much.

Summing up, 21 suicides on a post that size is well above the rate for the U.S. population as a whole for that age range.
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P.S. on a related note, John Galt's assertion that molestation rates are higher for public school teachers than for priests is one of those "facts" that is frequiently tossed around but that doesn't really have a solid basis.

It may be true that for any individual child, the probability of being molested by a PS teacher is higher than of being molested by a priest. But there are many more PS teachers than priests in the population and the average child has contact with several times as many teachers as priests.

We don't have very good objective data on what proportion of teachers and what proportion of priests actually molest children because the crime is highly under-reported and often reported only years after the fact. But, regardless of what Galt asserts, there is considerable evidence that the proportion of RC priests who molest children IS substantialy higher than the proportion of PS teachers. It also is higher than the proportion of clergy of other denominations who molest.

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