Pa. begins 'puppy mill' crackdown

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Animal-cruelty charges were filed this week after a large Lancaster County kennel was raided by humane agents who seized 23 malnourished and diseased dogs in what officials describe as the first major effort to ...

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Justinia

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#964
Nov 26, 2011
 
Jade wrote:
5 of the breeders are on the AKC website so im guessing they have been background checked and ect.
LOL I am pretty sure the AKC doesn't do background checks or much else besides cash checks.
lovaldgs

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#965
Nov 27, 2011
 
Many of the breeders you have listed below are big commercial breeders. NO, the AKC does NOT do background checks. Here's how the AKC works....breeder fills out their paperwork submits it with a fee and that's it. Now the breeder can say their dogs are AKC registered. This does not show genetic defects, health problems, behavior problems, etc. In fact the AKC refuses to get involved with shutting down the puppy mills because they get a fee for every puppy that is registered with them. The loss of that money would be huge for them, so why would they want the mills to shut down...

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Hi, um I was wondering if anyone had done business with any of these breeders: Moses Beiler,Partricia Entwistle, Wendy Miller, Joyce Little, Fred Keenan, Aaron Esh, Benny King, or Daniel Fisher. I am planning on Buying a Yorkie or some sort or yorkie mix. I am also planning to visit their dogs in person. 5 of the breeders are on the AKC website so im guessing they have been background checked and ect. Please help me quickly.:)
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#966
Nov 27, 2011
 
You were one of the lucky ones.......read a lot of the past posts on here of people who were not so lucky buying from a big commercial breeder in PA.
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I didn't have any problem with this breeder. I brought two shipoos from them one in 2009 and one in 2010. Both dogs came with shot records. Both are great dogs with no medical problems. I would buy from them again!!!
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#967
Dec 5, 2011
 
I just went to Matt's house in Lancaster last week to see a puppy from Lancaster puppies. I felt when I got there is was dirty all the puppies were in one crate (yorkiepoo's) then he brought out 3 other breeds of puppies for us to check out. His wife Anna had no clue about the puppies when answering any of my question. After coming home and doing more research I definitely feel like I was a puppy mill but not 100%.
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<quoted text> I JUST BOUGHT A YORKIE FROM GREENFEILDS IN LANCASTER PA. I DELT WITH MATHEW, THE PICTURES YOU SEE ON THE WEBSITE ARE PICTURES THAT ARE REAL... HE HAD A CLIPBOARD AND I ASKED HIM TO BRING ME THIS DOG. HE SAID WALJ WITH ME, I DIDNT GO INSIDE BUT I COULD SEE INSIDE. THE KENNEL WAS CLEAN... IT DID NOT SMELL, THEY HAD FOOD AND WATER. I ASKED HIM TO BRING ME A TEA CUP OUT SO I COULD CHOOSE WITCH ONE I WANTED.. IF IT WAS A MILL I COULDNT TELL! HE ALSO SAID THE TEA CUP WAS 8 WEEKS AND WAS NOT READY TO BE TAKEN HOME. IF HE DIDNT CARE HE WOULD HAVE SOLD THE DOG RIGHT THEN TO ME. THE PICTURES ON THE WEBSITE ARE REAL. ITS NOT A SCAM ... ALSO THE YORKIE I GOT WAS CLEAN, HIS WEIGHT WAS GOOD, AND HE DEWORMED HIM STARTING AT 2 WEEKS. THE DOG HAD HIS SHOTS, AND HE GAVE ME PROTEIN SUPPLEMENT TO TAKE HOME, AS WELL AS HIS VET RECORDS. HE guaranteed if anything happens to the dog he will refund the money or another dog... I see no puppy mill here!
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#968
Dec 6, 2011
 
Many listed with Lancaster puppies ARE puppy mills. What you saw is typical behavior of puppy mill breeders. Puppies are dirty, crammed together in crates and many times the millers breed a lot of different breeds. They don't care about anything except to make money.

You were smart to walk away.....

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I just went to Matt's house in Lancaster last week to see a puppy from Lancaster puppies. I felt when I got there is was dirty all the puppies were in one crate (yorkiepoo's) then he brought out 3 other breeds of puppies for us to check out. His wife Anna had no clue about the puppies when answering any of my question. After coming home and doing more research I definitely feel like I was a puppy mill but not 100%. <quoted text>
LancCountyFirema n

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Dec 7, 2011
 
So I have read almost every post on this forum and it makes me furious. However, I'm glad I now have the information. I am looking for a Boston terrier. Saw one little guy on the dreaded greenfield site in new holland listed really cheap by Allen Fisher. Any info? The truth is dogs are huge money makers for anyone involved in the selling process, even the rescues can cost over $800. I want a good dog for my growing family at a decent price. I'm assuming one for $250 is way to good to be true for this type of dog. There is one breeder listed in PA for their club that I could find selling for $1500. So what am I supposed to do? Go there and waste my time not buying this dog, and have him be shot anyway?? I want the puppy mills to stop, but this little guy shouldn't die because he came from a mill, right?
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#970
Dec 7, 2011
 
Your heart is in the right place with your thought of trying to keep the little puppy from death. BUT, when you do buy a dog from one of these mills, it keeps the mill in business. Puppies are usually not shot and can be sold to the big brokers who take them to pet stores all along the East coast. It's the mother dogs that are shot when they are no longer needed so another issue is buying the puppy will keep the mother dog breeding again to replace the puppies sold....very cruel treatment of these mother dogs by the millers.

Since you have contacted a local club and I assume it's a Boston Terrier club why don't you ask them for any breeder or rescue group that would not be so expensive for you.

Main Line Rescue in Chester Springs has so many dogs up for adoption and their fee is very reasonable. Why not give a dog a very Merry Christmas this year and rescue one.....just my thoughts.

Good luck....

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LancCountyFireman wrote:
So I have read almost every post on this forum and it makes me furious. However, I'm glad I now have the information. I am looking for a Boston terrier. Saw one little guy on the dreaded greenfield site in new holland listed really cheap by Allen Fisher. Any info? The truth is dogs are huge money makers for anyone involved in the selling process, even the rescues can cost over $800. I want a good dog for my growing family at a decent price. I'm assuming one for $250 is way to good to be true for this type of dog. There is one breeder listed in PA for their club that I could find selling for $1500. So what am I supposed to do? Go there and waste my time not buying this dog, and have him be shot anyway?? I want the puppy mills to stop, but this little guy shouldn't die because he came from a mill, right?
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#971
Dec 12, 2011
 
Has anyone dealt with Ben Kaufman in Honey Brook, PA? He said he is a Shiba Inu and Welsh Corgi breeder--anyone have any experiences with him?
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#972
Dec 13, 2011
 
I was doing some research and found a puppy I want to buy from someone named "Alvin Beiler". His name was in Greenfield's website and wanted to know if there is a chance he is a reputable breeder. Any help would be appreciated.
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#973
Dec 13, 2011
 
Lucas wrote:
You can get a puppy that turns out to be healthy and happy, that comes from a mill - but what you need to consider is what you are sentencing the parents of that puppy to. Buy supporting the business that produced that puppy, you are supporting the parents being used as puppy factories, machines, with no more compassion than is given to an assembly line. The mothers pump out litter after litter while living in wire cages. When they don't produce anymore they are shot, or taken to a shelter to be euthanized. Rescue organizations try to find them homes, but they require a great deal of effort. They are so sad. It's the adults you need to worry about more than the puppies, and the only way to stop this is to boycott the business so it isn't profitable anymore. Mill owners have a different cultural outlook on dogs - they don't understand.
I agree with you that puppy mills are exploiting the dogs, however, the process to adopt a rescue dog is next to impossible. This leads people who may typically rescue a dog towards breeders when they get so frustrated with the overly strict policies of shelters and rescues. The thing that really gets me is the kill shelters that would rather euthanize a perfectly healthy dog than let a family adopt it that doesn't meet EVERY criteria. My husband and I for example were denied on our application because the backyard fence wasn't tall enough.
LancCountyFirema n

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Dec 13, 2011
 
ARG wrote:
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I agree with you that puppy mills are exploiting the dogs, however, the process to adopt a rescue dog is next to impossible. This leads people who may typically rescue a dog towards breeders when they get so frustrated with the overly strict policies of shelters and rescues. The thing that really gets me is the kill shelters that would rather euthanize a perfectly healthy dog than let a family adopt it that doesn't meet
EVERY criteria. My husband and I for example were denied on our application because the backyard fence wasn't tall enough.
I honestly had the same idea as you until I found an adoption that I really wanted and was approved for. I was seriously scared that I would be rejected. You are exactly correct in that they seem extremely invasive and almost like they are looking for a perfect person. And you are right, they are, but keep trying. The adoption I found asked all the questions most do and I was worried. But I was accepted. My advice is keep trying. I agree that most shelters shouldn't kill these dogs with people trying to adopt, however most adoptions are through private rescues that stop then from being killed and then place them with forever homes. I have learned so much from reading everything I could about this subject and researching every possible aspect of the process. Again, keep trying. Some aren't so strict. Most are flexible. And you may have to travel, but it's definitely worth it. I'm going to pick up my best friend Saturday and hope he will be with me for the next 15-20 years.
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#975
Dec 14, 2011
 
Congrats LancCountyFirema n

You persevered and will now have a buddy to love for a long time.

Worth the wait for sure

Best to you and your new furry buddy!

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#976
Dec 14, 2011
 
About 2 years ago I adopted a Golden named Cooper. He came from Pa and the breeder was Crist Lapp. This information along with a local vet records was the only information I received regarding his past. Anyway, he has been a wonderful dog. He has a fantastic personality,very smart, and all around great dog; however, this summer he did need TPLO surgery, which is kind of like ACL surgery. I'm not sure if this was related to the breeding or due to the fact that he is a very active breed.
Now the information I've gathered on this breeder Crist Lapp has not been good; however, I have not read anything bad about his puppies. Has anyone had a real bad experience with this breeder or his puppies? I would just like to know more about where Coop comes from.
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#977
Dec 15, 2011
 
First - congratulations on adopting a dog and not buying one. I wish more people would do that.

Chist Lapp runs a big commercial kennel in PA and breeds three breeds of dogs - boxers, labs and golden retrievers. He has passed the state inspections for cleanliness and how his kennels look but that only takes care of the physical aspect of the puppies.

With an average of 156 dogs on the premises during the last inspection how can he give the puppies the socialization they need to join a family. In 2010/2011 he sold 397 dogs.

For the physical problems you mentioned with your dog, yes that could be the breeding process. Many of these big commercial kennels, over breed their dogs without any care to the inherited genetic defects that might be in the line. This is a possibility with your dog.

I too adopted a golden retriever and she was a breeder dog kept in a cage for 4 years, having puppies every heat cycle. If I thought about her past? I would not be able to help her overcome it..so I think only in the present.

My advice to you and it's just my opinion......don't worry about your dogs past, just enjoy his present and be grateful (which I'm sure you are) that you have a wonderful companion.

lovaldgs
Coopers_Mom_VT wrote:
About 2 years ago I adopted a Golden named Cooper. He came from Pa and the breeder was Crist Lapp. This information along with a local vet records was the only information I received regarding his past. Anyway, he has been a wonderful dog. He has a fantastic personality,very smart, and all around great dog; however, this summer he did need TPLO surgery, which is kind of like ACL surgery. I'm not sure if this was related to the breeding or due to the fact that he is a very active breed.
Now the information I've gathered on this breeder Crist Lapp has not been good; however, I have not read anything bad about his puppies. Has anyone had a real bad experience with this breeder or his puppies? I would just like to know more about where Coop comes from.
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Dec 18, 2011
 
I'm curious what anybody has heard about Happy Tails in Ickesburg PA. They apparently have multiple breeds and mixes. I was there not too long ago and wasn't impressed at all. Has anyone bought pets from them and are they actually healthy 2-3 yrs down the road?
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Dec 18, 2011
 
There are so many Happy Tails places listed on the licensing website but the one I think you mean is Arndt's Happy Tails. If so he is a big commercial breeder and had on premises 231 dogs.

With so many breeds and so many dogs how can he possibly know how to better the breed or keep out genetic defects. And for socialization of young dogs? Next to impossible by these big breeders.

I would say if you weren't impressed.....that's a red flag.....walk away and you won't have to worry about the future of a pup you get from them.

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animalfriendly wrote:
I'm curious what anybody has heard about Happy Tails in Ickesburg PA. They apparently have multiple breeds and mixes. I was there not too long ago and wasn't impressed at all. Has anyone bought pets from them and are they actually healthy 2-3 yrs down the road?
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Dec 19, 2011
 
Justinia wrote:
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If Greenfield Puppies is a broker for puppy mills then ANY breeder who you found through them I would consider to be a puppy mill.
You might try asking for breeder recommendations from kennel clubs in your area or try http://www.americanboxerclub.org/us-boxer-clu...
I would also try searching for Boxer rescue organizations in your area
OK so I just came across this website. After buying an American Eskimo puppy from John Stoltzfus an Amish farmer from Paradise Pa I am a little worried!! Our puppy is 11 weeks old and seems healthy. We got her at 8 weeks of age. My husband bought her for $450 at 8 weeks old. When he picked her up (I wasn't there) he said they were outside in a fenced area but had access to a barn for shelter. I found the american Eskimos online through Sunnyside puppies, he also has them advertised on Next day pets.. Anyone know if he runs a puppy mill? This saddens me! I never thought the Amish were so cruel!! If I did get her through a puppy mill I don't know what I will do. I do know I will never buy a puppy through a puppy mill again! I will defiantly be researching!! However everyone of these animals still needs a home whether they came from a puppy mill, pet store , breeder or animal shelter! How can we put an end to puppy mills in PA??
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Dec 19, 2011
 
lovaldgs wrote:
Health guarantee is only good if you are willing to return the puppy you have fallen in love with for a full refund. Why take a chance. AKC means only that the dog is purebred, does NOT guarantee health. I would be very leary of a breeder who breeds so many different dogs. And Greenfield Puppies has a few kennels listed that are questionnable as to their status as to whether they are puppy mills or not. Do NOT buy over the internet without checking out the kennel personally. See the parents, see where puppies are raised. Is their environment clean? Healthy looking? Have they been properly socialized?, etc, etc.. Buyer beware when it comes to buying puppies over the internet without checking location and kennel conditions first! Good breeders have nothing to hide and will give you a tour if you go to their premises. If not? What have they got to hide. <quoted text>
I got my cockapoo thru them and he was fine! Ask how many litters the dog has been bred if it's more than 4 beware!
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#982
Dec 19, 2011
 
Victoria, you did get a dog through John E Stoltzfus in Paradise Pa? Where was your dog kept and did it look like a puppy mill to you?
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Dec 19, 2011
 
I have been googling his name and looking up different things all day and haven't really found anything much on him! I just want peace of mind...I hope I didn't get a puppy mill dog! I will love her anyway though. It is just upsetting!

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