Conversations with the lord

[Jade]

Bill N wrote:

I talked to him too. He said his coffee was cold and this planet stinks. Then he flew off on an invisible pink unicorn.

invisible pink unicorn??? Did you take pictures???

[justsayin]

tired of it all wrote:

<quoted text>The Bible does not specifically what nation against what nation or what father against what son or what brother against what brother. If you are truly reading your Bible, you will surely see this. He merely says this will happen without naming names. You can choose to believe or not, your perogative. However, I would venture to say that people that honestly try to live according to the word of God are probably a lot happier and less worry free than those who chose not to. Agree?

Thank you for your time and patience. I do appreciate it.

[justcurious]

Jade wrote:

interesting thread........

How so?

[Jade]

justcurious wrote:

<quoted text>
How so?

Religion facinates me.
The different interpretations of the bible. Different beliefs.. I like it. So many different things to ponder if you don't know where you stand religiously. I've been struggling with it lately. I like all the points of view.

[Firefly]

justcurious wrote:

Well yes, but those "insrtuctions" are very generalized, wouldn't you say. I got the impression from CoG that there were specific instructions for us to follow. Your post alludes to that as well. So, my question still is, where are the specific instructions that tell us what nations we- the US, should go to war with and when?
For example, where in the Bible does it specifically say whether or not we should invade Iran?
We all want to smell CoG's coffee.

There are no instructions like that. That's already been said. But, if we all ~ for instance ~ followed the 10 Commandments and the Greatest Commandment: Love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself, we wouldn't be having these problems.

Alas, that will not happen on earth ~ as it is now.

[FHS Student403]

Jade wrote:

<quoted text>
Religion facinates me.
The different interpretations of the bible. Different beliefs.. I like it. So many different things to ponder if you don't know where you stand religiously. I've been struggling with it lately. I like all the points of view.

I agree. As an atheist many seem to think I must hate religion but as a matter of fact it is quite interesting to me.

[justcurious]

Jade wrote:

<quoted text>
Religion facinates me.
The different interpretations of the bible. Different beliefs.. I like it. So many different things to ponder if you don't know where you stand religiously. I've been struggling with it lately. I like all the points of view.

Good for you. My advice, for what it's worth. Don't push it, keep investigating. What ever is right for you will come to you.

[justcurious]

tired of it all wrote:

<quoted text>And therein lies the problem.

You seem to understand the word of the Lord, is it fair for me to ask you questions about what you believe?

[tired of it all]

justcurious wrote:

<quoted text>You seem to understand the word of the Lord, is it fair for me to ask you questions about what you believe?

Yes, it most definitely would be fair.Thank you.

[justcurious]

tired of it all wrote:

<quoted text> Yes, it most definitely would be fair.Thank you.

Thank you. First let me say my questions are genuine and in no way meant to challenge your believes. There are intended for me understand current Christian thinking on a few things.

This question is intende to open a a little dialog on the subject.

What is the current thinking by Christians regarding the people of a country being held liable by God for the actions of that country.
As an example; Are the people of Germany held accountable by God for the actions of the Nazi regime?

Please explain how you arrive at your answer.

[tired of it all]

justcurious wrote:

<quoted text>Thank you. First let me say my questions are genuine and in no way meant to challenge your believes. There are intended for me understand current Christian thinking on a few things.
This question is intende to open a a little dialog on the subject.
What is the current thinking by Christians regarding the people of a country being held liable by God for the actions of that country.
As an example; Are the people of Germany held accountable by God for the actions of the Nazi regime?
Please explain how you arrive at your answer.

Remember, these are only my beliefs. I truly believe that the majority of people in any given country would rather not be at war with anyone. They are humans just like you and me. So I don't believe all the people of a country are going to be held liable for the actions of few. As for the Nazis, I call them people with no heart or soul. They didn't care if it was man, woman or child their atrocities were committed on. Their hearts had to have made of stone to totally block God out of their lives. Otherwise, I don't think they could have done this.The only good thing is on judgement day, all the perpetrators will have to answer to God.So in answer to your question, no, I honestly believe not all the people of a country will be held liable by God for the actions of a few Godless.

[justsayin]

tired of it all wrote:

<quoted text>Remember, these are only my beliefs. So in answer to your question, no, I honestly believe not all the people of a country will be held liable by God for the actions of a few Godless.

Your caveat is well taken, thanks. Your belief seems to coincide with what Paul said in Romans 13:1-7.

Another question please.

What do you make of the recent trend of the reduction of the number of confessed Christians in the US?

Is this trend predicted anywhere in the Bible?

[2cool4school]

Now this is just two (2) F'n funny, if you will excuse me. For all you Bible Thumpin dumb butts - who say God said this and God said that.... Your "God" has not said a word. Never has, never will - God don't talk friends, and why do you think 'that is?'...no god maybe? Hummmm, you can't show me one word that "God" said to any living (or dead) sole. Man writes a lot of crap and give's God the credit - but "Man" say's stuff, not God. To funny - other than I'm sick of you bible thumpers god this and god that - This is why I read the FDT - just to get a good laugh.

[justsayin]

2cool4school wrote:

Now this is just two (2) F'n funny, if you will excuse me. For all you Bible Thumpin dumb butts - who say God said this and God said that.... Your "God" has not said a word. Never has, never will - God don't talk friends, and why do you think 'that is?'...no god maybe? Hummmm, you can't show me one word that "God" said to any living (or dead) sole. Man writes a lot of crap and give's God the credit - but "Man" say's stuff, not God. To funny - other than I'm sick of you bible thumpers god this and god that - This is why I read the FDT - just to get a good laugh.

Be all this as it may, so what? What is the impact to your life? Shouldn't you talk about that? Otherwise it just sounds like a whole bunch of disin goin on.

[2cool4school]

justsayin wrote:

<quoted text>Be all this as it may, so what? What is the impact to your life? Shouldn't you talk about that? Otherwise it just sounds like a whole bunch of disin goin on.

little disapointed in ya "justsayin"...your just another one of them bible thumpers. Ergo, any who disagrees with you is wrong are they not? Do you live YOUR WORDS or your a Hippricate MF (one word).....one or the other pal. Oh, there is Nothing, I mean nothing, worse than a hippricate. End of story.

[Wondering]

tired of it all wrote:

<quoted text>O.K. Let's put it this way. Say you are the U.S. and I am Iran. If you follow the instructions in the bible, you would love me as much as you love yourself and i would love you as much as I love myself. Hence, you would not invade me (Iran) and I would not invade you.(U.S.) But people do not care to follow these instructions, hence all the invasions from all sides.

Yeah, but Iran is not a Christian Nation. They havent read the instructions, nor would they "obey" them if they had. The love each other doctrine has to work both ways for it to work at all

[tired of it all]

justsayin wrote:

<quoted text>Your caveat is well taken, thanks. Your belief seems to coincide with what Paul said in Romans 13:1-7.
Another question please.
What do you make of the recent trend of the reduction of the number of confessed Christians in the US?
Is this trend predicted anywhere in the Bible?

Yes it is, in Thessalonians. People fail to see it happening, in fact, they fail to see all that has happened for at least the last 20 years. They get too comfortable in their life and forget that without God, you are nothing. You may have money and all kinds of material things, but when Jesus comes, all this is going to count for nothing. People will call on Jesus when something bad happens, an illness or a death, but they tend to forget him when things are going good. So I think people are just to comfortable with how things are in their lives and don't feel like they need anything else in their lives at the time.

[concerned citizen]

2cool4school wrote:

<quoted text> little disapointed in ya "justsayin"...your just another one of them bible thumpers. Ergo, any who disagrees with you is wrong are they not? Do you live YOUR WORDS or your a Hippricate MF (one word).....one or the other pal. Oh, there is Nothing, I mean nothing, worse than a hippricate. End of story.

Except uneducated fools who can't spell.

[The Obama]

Uh, if you like your religion you will be able to keep your religion, period. Ah, If you like your god, you will be able to keep your god, period.
When I say, if you like your religion, your god, what I'm saying is, the government is not going to make you change those beliefs under the faith reform.

[justsayin]

2cool4school wrote:

<quoted text> little disapointed in ya "justsayin"...your just another one of them bible thumpers. Ergo, any who disagrees with you is wrong are they not? Do you live YOUR WORDS or your a Hippricate MF (one word).....one or the other pal. Oh, there is Nothing, I mean nothing, worse than a hippricate. End of story.

I think you're a mite quick on the trigger 2cool. But believe what you will. I just think you get a lot more from explaining the impact of things rather than just _itching about it and name calling. In that regard you are certainly a disappointment to me. I thought you had more respect for your own intelligence than to resort to that kind of talk.
Just for your edification, and I know not why I take the time after your unjustified remarks to me;I have been a non Christian, anti religious even, person for 50 plus years now. The other day, from another narrow mind except of the Christian persuasion, I was accused of not understanding the other side. I was trying to do that when you started your dising campaign. Rest assured I will not attempt to dissuade you from it in the future.

Yes there is something worse than a hippricate- what ever that is , someone who is a pious hypocrite.

I happen to believe Tired of it all, is not of that elk. That is why I'm asking him my questions. Not for you to cajole him for being a Christian. I certainly can't stop you, but I can raise my objections to it.
So, I ask you, please don't interfere in my interrogation of this kind person.
There, now do as you please.