.Mitt Romney and Obama debate.

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Johnny Appleseed

Peoria, IL

#1 Oct 6, 2012
Recently two men stood before us in a debate, both presented their concept of what had happened in America in the past four years. One man, Obama had the job of explaining why America, under his leadership, was in the circumstances the country and its citizens now find themselves in.
The other man in the debate attempted to point out the missteps that the present president, Obama, had made that were wrong for America and why they were wrong.
Both Mitt Romney and Obama had equal opportunity to present their sides of the issues but the difference was that, after the debates, Obama and his minions offered excuses for his presentation in the debate where Mitt Romney let the public determine which debater won, Mitt Romney by presenting truths ,the other man in the debate, Obama, just illusions to explain what had occurred while he was president.
One excuse the democrats put out to explain Obama's less than staller performance in the debate was that Obama should have been allowed to use a teleprompter.
Mark Twine once said,"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
If we believe Mark Twin's statement to be true then we can make an accurate determination as to which of the two debaters were telling the truth...Mitt Romney didn't require a teleprompter to remember what he had previously said,or to speak truths, Obama's apologists said he did...
Critical thinking

West Chicago, IL

#2 Oct 6, 2012
That's quite a take on Romney's performance.

He didn't remember what he had previously said. In fact, the positions he took on taxes and immigration are the opposite of what he's been saying for months.

The problem I have with Romney is that what he says changes with the wind. He's held positions that are polar opposites on everything from abortion to gun control, health care to foreign relations. I have no idea what he'll actually do if elected. He's the proverbial pig in a poke.

The incumbent is no prize either. We're not being asked to choose the lesser of two evils, but to choose between two different evils - and one of them is unknown.

But the only other choice is Gary Johnson, who doesn't have a chance.

Are these candidates really the best we can do?

I think America deserves better.
jimbo

Sugar Grove, IL

#3 Oct 6, 2012
Critical thinking wrote:
I think America deserves better.
You can "think" anything you want, but it is what it is.
Time to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.

If you really think there is a question on who to vote for between the worst President in history and Mitt Romney than you are not using "critical thinking".

This is a no brainer. 4 more years of this downward spiral or roll the dice and hope for real change.

We have what we have, you can wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and you still have the same choice.

Is it that difficult to make the correct choice, given the choices?
Johnny Appleseed

Peoria, IL

#4 Oct 6, 2012
jimbo wrote:
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You can "think" anything you want, but it is what it is.
Time to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.
If you really think there is a question on who to vote for between the worst President in history and Mitt Romney than you are not using "critical thinking".
This is a no brainer. 4 more years of this downward spiral or roll the dice and hope for real change.
We have what we have, you can wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and you still have the same choice.
Is it that difficult to make the correct choice, given the choices?
You are right in your assistment of our choices for president,a Ronald Reagan isn't to be found so the option between Obama remaining as president and Mitt Romney becoming president is a easy choice to make.For a change we'll have a president in Mitt Romney that believes in America
Johnny Appleseed

Peoria, IL

#5 Oct 7, 2012
Critical thinking wrote:
That's quite a take on Romney's performance.
He didn't remember what he had previously said. In fact, the positions he took on taxes and immigration are the opposite of what he's been saying for months.
The problem I have with Romney is that what he says changes with the wind. He's held positions that are polar opposites on everything from abortion to gun control, health care to foreign relations. I have no idea what he'll actually do if elected. He's the proverbial pig in a poke.
The incumbent is no prize either. We're not being asked to choose the lesser of two evils, but to choose between two different evils - and one of them is unknown.
But the only other choice is Gary Johnson, who doesn't have a chance.
Are these candidates really the best we can do?
I think America deserves better.
You replied,"We're not being asked to choose the lesser of two evils, but to choose between two different evils - and one of them is unknown."If, as you said, "One of them is unknown," We have to believe that you are referring to Obama in your statement about One being unknown. Do we really know who Obama is and his stealth government,a government that governs with unappointed czars,(Forty-Five czars) unelected and unresponsible to anyone but Obama.
Does anyone know what goes on in Washington behind closed doors. Are the citizens allowed to know, for instance, who is visiting Obama at the White House. Did anyone know what was in Obama's health care plan, Nancy Pelosi said , " You have to pass it to know whats in it." Then one of the black democrat caucus members commented about Obama health care plan, said,"I don't think anyone has read the over 2700 hundred pages of the Obama health care plan and if they did the language was such that only a lawyer could understand it."
There have been attempts to shed light on the workings of this Obama stealth government by Judicial watch organization using the Freedom of Information Act and they have had little success in discovering what this government was doing behind their walls of secrecy and stealth style of government.
This was going to be a government of Transparency, Obama said, but Obama's government has been anything but transparent.Judicial watch when requesting documents from Obama on America's government operations through the " FOIA were stonewalled, and when they did receive documents they requested they were redacted( Whole sections blacked out), According to Congressman Issa," So much so that "...."it... "Violated the law." You posted,"You replied,"We're not being asked to choose the lesser of two evils, but to choose between two different evils - and one of them is unknown." You must have been referring to Obama and his administration when you said,"One is unknown."

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