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Have you noticed that more and more, people are finding it completely acceptable to park their cars so that they take up more than one stall? Or that it's acceptable to not wait in line - anywhere, for anything ...
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g4scythe

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When I was a child, my father would stop and help strangers that were stranded on the side of the road. A couple of months ago I stopped to assist a stranded motorist, he told me to beat it! Not "Thank you, no need help" or "Thanks, I get em" or anything resembling a "Thanks for stopping" people like this guy ruins it for people who really need help. My father embodied "local style" and "aloha spirit" and I hope to emulate him, but when I see people on the side of the road in need of help, I second guess myself. But the next time I stop to help and a guy tell me to "beat it," his face going be broken.
Daniel de Gracia II

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Right on.

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

Waipahu, HI

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Thanks to Alani Apio for a very thoughtful and inspirational message. He earns the boy scout merit badge for helping the old lady cross the street.

In the past Mr. Apio and I have had strong disagreements over political issues regarding Hawaiian sovereignty. But this essay gets my strong support.

On one item I make a small comment. Mr. Apio complains about people parking in such a way that they occupy two spaces. I confess I have done that in the past occasionally, and will continue doing it when necessary in the future. The fault lies with parking lot owners who make stalls that are too narrow (in order to cram in more spaces in their small parking lots). I need to park with enough space to my left to be able to open the door and get out. Then, later, someone else might park so close on my left that I might be unable to get in on the driver side and must get in through the passenger side and squirm my way into the driver seat -- harder to do the older I get. So I always park to the right of the stall; and if my left-side neighbor has already encroached into my stall, then I might actually park directly over the line to my right, thus using two stalls. And if I do that, I'll REALLY do it and put that dividing line under the middle of my car so nobody else will try to crowd in. Self defense. Blame the lot owner.; and blame the drivers of those huge, wide SUVs who think they can park in the middle of a stall while also hugging so close to the stall boundary lines that they effectively are occupying 3 spaces.
Localyokel

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Maybe the response to Ken Conklin's comments about SUV is that we should stop using those huge and wasteful vehicles. That would show Aloha for the environment and Hawaii.
ululani

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get rid of those not born here..that would be a biiiiiig change for us that were
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This article expresses a fear that Hawaii is basically becoming less welcoming. It is losing the humility, politeness and respect that characterize the culture of Hawaii.

Notice also that the census indicates that more and more mainlanders have been moving to Hawaii permanently over the last decade. Are these two facts connected?

It is possible. If more and more people from New York or Baltimore or L.A. move to Hawaii, one would expect the culture of Hawaii to begin to look more and more like the culture of those places. This seems obvious. There are more and more complaints about the aloha spirit not being what it used to be. Well, there may be a reason for that.

UH professor Herb Barringer discusses this in his short article called A Short Essay on Hawai'is people, which can be found at www.e-hawaii.com . Keep in mind that the author is fully fledged PhD so he has some idea of what he is talking about.

Hawaii's leaders are oblivious to this problem. What they fail to realize is that they may eventually be voted out of office by these newcomers.
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correction: This article expresses a fear that Hawaii is basically becoming less welcoming. It is losing the humility, politeness and respect that characterized the culture of Hawaii.
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There are reasons why Hawaii is becoming more like the mainland. This is not rocket science guys.
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Sep 14, 2008
 
unfortunatly Professor Barringer predicts trouble in Hawaii's future. See the article.
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Problems reflected on in this article seem to be systematic of a overcrowded, congested island community where resources are tapped and access to the places of our youth no longer exist. How can aloha exist in an atmosphere that is fast becoming void of anything that resembles a Hawaiian place? The values of individualism, consummerism and captialism are the antithesis of Hawaiian values that put the welfare of the ohana and the larger community first, over individual accumulation of wealth. Kanaka knew the value of the precious life source of clean, fresh water or wai, and gave the same name to define wealth. As newcomers from the continent continue to immigrate here, their values come with them, thus the clash between local and newcomer. In addition, when you put too many animals in one place, the survival instinct kicks in and it becomes "dog eat dog".
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Sep 14, 2008
 
He wahine Hawaii wrote:
Problems reflected on in this article seem to be systematic of a overcrowded, congested island community where resources are tapped and access to the places of our youth no longer exist. How can aloha exist in an atmosphere that is fast becoming void of anything that resembles a Hawaiian place? The values of individualism, consummerism and captialism are the antithesis of Hawaiian values that put the welfare of the ohana and the larger community first, over individual accumulation of wealth. Kanaka knew the value of the precious life source of clean, fresh water or wai, and gave the same name to define wealth. As newcomers from the continent continue to immigrate here, their values come with them, thus the clash between local and newcomer. In addition, when you put too many animals in one place, the survival instinct kicks in and it becomes "dog eat dog".
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get rid of television

“I think, therefore, I am.”

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"Mahalo" Alani Apio. Our lives have become so self-centered and competitive that we have lost sight of the adage: "Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you." I, for one, prefer a life of cooperation and respect, rather than one of obliviousness and insensitivity.
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Fear & paranoia-on both sides doesn't help.
I'm a brown skinned local guy who has a
couple of college degrees (that won't even get me a drink in a bar-no sweat, I don't drink)
and a neighbor who is even more rubba slippa
dark and L&L plate lunch looking than I am.
He has a medical school degree. We both
chuckled about how some neighbors recently
transplanted from the mainland, nervously size us up like we're going to break into their cars.Hahaha...( I only rob banks).

On the flip side, there are locals who won't
cut the new transplants any slack and are
overly defensive. Hype and paranoia makes
anyone create distortions in their perceptions.

If you eyeball enough, you can find fault
(magnified) in any one.

Who dat old homeless-looking wahine???
Whups! My Bad...she's Mother Theresa!!
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Aiea, HI

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A start would be going to every school and letting the kids know that this is Hawaii and not Atlanta.
Isle Republican

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We can make Hawaii a better place by voting out this 50 year monopolistic Democrat regime. Their failed policies have ruined this state. They're pricing us out of Paradise and killing the Aloha spirit.

btw, did you know that Hawaii is #2 in suicides? It's true!
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It's time to leave the islands!!!!!!!!!
Isle Republican

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Violent crimes on the rise in this soft on crime Democrat run state. How many more babies will be tossed onto the freeway before they actually do something about Hawaii's ice epidemic??
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very true..ice is all over.

“in all things be pono, aloha”

Since: Aug 07

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Sep 14, 2008
 
He wahine Hawaii wrote:
Problems reflected on in this article seem to be systematic of a overcrowded, congested island community where resources are tapped and access to the places of our youth no longer exist. How can aloha exist in an atmosphere that is fast becoming void of anything that resembles a Hawaiian place? The values of individualism, consummerism and captialism are the antithesis of Hawaiian values that put the welfare of the ohana and the larger community first, over individual accumulation of wealth. Kanaka knew the value of the precious life source of clean, fresh water or wai, and gave the same name to define wealth. As newcomers from the continent continue to immigrate here, their values come with them, thus the clash between local and newcomer. In addition, when you put too many animals in one place, the survival instinct kicks in and it becomes "dog eat dog".
and moloka'i is fighting like hell not to become that way...
no ONE extreme is the right thing though.
sometimes it looks like there is a reverse movement back to the mainland. are there any statistics on population growth from outside the island? i guess comparing to some asiean cities we are still thinly populated, even in honolulu. i saw a picture of a beach in korea. wow! talk about crowded!

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