jja

Conway, SC

#82 Nov 16, 2008
Well the land America has not been attacked as i would say tresppassing but with all the illegals here that wouldn't be true. We been at war for century, this war in Iraq it not the last war when you we leave this earth their will be war. So get back to reality land toto an the wizard of oz. Hello Streets 88
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#84 Nov 16, 2008
jja wrote:
Well you can get on a plane an leave this country far as i'm concern..
Well why would I want to do that? I'm not the one who doesn't believe in freedom or seems to have Anti-American views that would be you. Shouldn't you be the one to leave?
jja wrote:
You seem to feel like 911 wasn't enough.
I seem to think "9/11" is a horrid day, but do I give up freedom for security? And if I do, what freedom do I really have?
jja wrote:
You also remind me as your one those crazy professor at some college that push their agenda an hope others feel like you, an dare be different as you slap them with a F for a grade.
I don't really give a hoot who agrees with me. I don't judge people on if they agree, I judge on how they reach their opinion
jja

Murrells Inlet, SC

#85 Nov 17, 2008
Your an AZZ
Streets 88 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well why would I want to do that? I'm not the one who doesn't believe in freedom or seems to have Anti-American views that would be you. Shouldn't you be the one to leave?
<quoted text>
I seem to think "9/11" is a horrid day, but do I give up freedom for security? And if I do, what freedom do I really have?
<quoted text>
I don't really give a hoot who agrees with me. I don't judge people on if they agree, I judge on how they reach their opinion

“Politicians are like diapers”

Since: May 08

Marietta, GA

#86 Nov 17, 2008
va vet wrote:
AS one great American said."THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS TAXS'. If you ae interested you can look this up, for yourself. The only question we need answered is are you better off now than 8 year ago.
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago. 8 years ago, I was working as a Correctional Officer for the State of NC. I was working 12 hr shifts from 6pm to 6am with 2 days on 2 days off and every other weekend being either a 3 day on or a 3 day off. I was earning approximately $24,000 a year, and being paid once a month. Now, I manage a courier company, and I have a salary of almost $37,000 a year not including benefits. If you include my benefit package, my salary raises to approximately $45,000 a year. I have every weekend off. I earn 16 days of PTO a year for right now, and I am only on the 2nd calendar year of employment with this company. I have 4 independant contractor drivers who work for me, and we handle over $100,000 worth of product every day.

Now, before anyone goes there... I do not attribute my success to any government program, but to my own hard work and determination. I have busted my tail to get to where I currently am in life. I have achieved more in my life than my parents have ever done. And that to me is the epitome of the American Dream.

I've had no special breaks in life. I did not attend college. I enlisted in the Marines immediately after high school. I have not attended any trade school, and did nothing with my G.I. bill.

I could qualify for certain government benefits if I chose to, simply due to my Native American heritage, but I do not believe that I am owed ANYTHING by the government simply because of my ancestry. I want no hand-outs... I do not even claim my ancestry on an job application. Mainly because I do not want to get the job due to "affirmative action". I want people to hire me because of me, and not because of my genetics. I have never in my life EVER filed for and/or accepted unemployment insurance, because I have never been "above" taking any job I could. I have gone once from managing a warehouse in a retail store, to changing tires in a auto shop. And that occured because the store I worked for at the time had a new manager take over, who decided to put her own people in positions of command. There are jobs everywhere, if someone just looks.

In President John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address, he provided what is quite possibly one of his most famous quotes:

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."

"My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

"It is now the moment ...to recall what our country has done for each of us, and to ask ourselves what we can do for our country in return."

Whatever happened to that America?
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#87 Nov 17, 2008
jja wrote:
Your an AZZ <quoted text>
Thanks

lest I'm honest
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#88 Nov 17, 2008
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago. 8 years ago, I was working as a Correctional Officer for the State of NC. I was working 12 hr shifts from 6pm to 6am with 2 days on 2 days off and every other weekend being either a 3 day on or a 3 day off. I was earning approximately $24,000 a year, and being paid once a month. Now, I manage a courier company, and I have a salary of almost $37,000 a year not including benefits. If you include my benefit package, my salary raises to approximately $45,000 a year. I have every weekend off. I earn 16 days of PTO a year for right now, and I am only on the 2nd calendar year of employment with this company. I have 4 independent contractor drivers who work for me, and we handle over $100,000 worth of product every day.
Well good for you. However that wouldn't be true for most Americans, so one might say you would be an exception to the rule. I, however would say you really aren't doing that swell, you make roughly $400.00 a week net. You'd be better off joining the Teamsters
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
<quoted text>
I enlisted in the Marines immediately after high school. I have not attended any trade school, and did nothing with my G.I. bill.
I could qualify for certain government benefits if I chose to, simply due to my Native American heritage, but I do not believe that I am owed ANYTHING by the government simply because of my ancestry. I want no hand-outs... I do not even claim my ancestry on an job application. Mainly because I do not want to get the job due to "affirmative action". I want people to hire me because of me, and not because of my genetics.
Well that’s good, we have one thing in common, "Semper Fi"

I'm curious if you bought your house through the VA? If so, you just a got a big fat handout(as did I). I betting you will say you did not however, which would mean one or two things, you are a horrible manager of your own affairs, or you really did.
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
<quoted text>
There are jobs everywhere, if someone just looks.
There are indeed, but can the welder flip burgers at the McDonalds all day for a fair and decent wage, and McDonalds still make profit? The reality is most jobs open are service relate, and pay poorly with few benefits.
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
<quoted text>
"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."
"My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."
"It is now the moment ...to recall what our country has done for each of us, and to ask ourselves what we can do for our country in return."
Whatever happened to that America?
Good question...take a look in the mirror and ask, what happen to the America, that cared about Americans. That cared about the poor, the sick, the dying, and needy, yeah what happen to that America. What happen to the America that taxed the wealth 91% and nobody whined about it, because it was their duty to their Country to their fellow man, yeah what the hell happened? What happened to the America that woke up everyday with dreams that mankind might just make it to the moon? What happen to the America that dreamed for a nation, and not for their selfish goals? Did Wal-Mart finally lower the price on our souls.

“Politicians are like diapers”

Since: May 08

Marietta, GA

#89 Nov 18, 2008
To answer your questions, First... 400 a week (although I bring home more than that) is quite doable as long as you live within your means. I have no credit cards, therefore no credit card debt. Second, I did not use the VA to buy my home(I used money I had on hand) and even if I did, that is not giving me a handout due to circumstances that are beyond my control, that is a benefit that is available to anyone who honorably serves in the Armed Forces. And I am not against that. Volunteering to put your life on the line in defense of out great nation is something that does deserve to be rewarded.
Joining the Teamsters??? Is that a joke? Labor unions had their time, but now, the Labor unions are doing alot more harm than good. If you disagree with me, all you have to do is look at the "Big Three"... All of them are in a "Labor Friendly State" and they are all in financial jeopardy. The reason GM/Ford/Chrysler are all so much more expensive than most of the other cars made in America today are because of the Labor Unions. Take for example General Motors.$1,600 of every GM car you buy goes toward the healthcare costs of union workers. For companies like Toyota that aren't unionized - that cost is only $200 per car. GM also spends another $1,000 per vehicle on holiday pay, work rules, plant-shutdown-pay and line-relief to UAW workers. Those are costs that auto makers such as Toyota don't have to worry about. The average Ford, GM or Chrysler union worker makes about $71.00 or more per hour if you count in all the benefits that the Unions insist upon. For Toyota, Nissan and the rest ... about $48.00 per hour. Do you detect a small problem here? Should we bail out these people? I find it funny the only auto companies we are hearing about in financial stress are the "Big Three".
Consumeraffairs.com posted this story.
April 18, 2006
Lifestyle drugs -- chiefly Viagra -- are costing General Motors $17 million dollars a year and the cost is passed along to car, truck and SUV consumers. The blue pill is covered under GM's labor agreement with United Auto Workers, as well as benefit plans for salaried employees.
GM executives estimate health care adds $1,500 to the price of each vehicle but they do not break out how much of the premium is caused by erectile dysfunction expenses. GM provides health care for 1.1 million employees, retirees and dependents and is the world's largest private purchaser of Viagra.
GM recently raised the co-pay for erectile dysfunction drugs to $18 under a new agreement with the UAW and the company has also pared benefits for salaried workers.
The automaker spends almost $5.6 billion each year on health care. While lifestyle drugs are a small fraction of the total medical bill, every health care expense is added into the price of every new vehicle and is a drag on the struggling goliath's earnings.
Given the large number of aging autoworkers in the U.S., the industry's Viagra tab and bill for other erectile dysfunction drugs is certain to continue rising.
Neither Ford nor Chrysler will disclose the amount spent on erectile dysfunction drugs.
While many government and company health plans have eliminated impotence drugs from coverage plans, GM has more than two retirees for every active worker on its rolls and must negotiate eliminating the drugs from the union health plan with the UAW
As I previously stated, Labor Unions had their time, but that time is passed.

“Politicians are like diapers”

Since: May 08

Marietta, GA

#90 Nov 18, 2008
And now the Dems in Congress want the taxpayers of America to bail out the Auto companies...(Or in reality, the labor unions) And unfortunately though, there are many side businesses that will be affected if the "Big Three" fall, and we cannot have that. We should let the auto companies file chapter 11 and restructure the contracts, instead of you and I paying the bill for a retiree's Viagra/Cialis or whatever.

I care for my fellow man, I am a blood donor (B negative is my type), and I am on the Marrow Registry. And when I croak, I am also an organ donor.

Hawaii attempted to make Universal Health Care available for free for all children. That program lasted less than a year because of people who could afford their own health care were taking their children off their own insurance so they could get it for free. That is what happened to your America. No one believes in hard work anymore. And as I have previously stated in an earlier post, America has become a nation of Oliver's... And if something is made available as Hawaii attempted...(And I believe that in essence it was a good idea to help the needy) But too many people now-a-days want something for nothing, and if something is worth having, then it is worth working for.

“Politicians are like diapers”

Since: May 08

Marietta, GA

#91 Nov 18, 2008
And also.... BTW Streets... Semper Fi. 88-92 here
jja

Conway, SC

#92 Nov 18, 2008
Street 88 just wants a hand out. Spread the wealth. LOL the majority of the folks that voted for Brack Hussein Obama will eventually regret voting for him. As they expect something for free. Their nothing free. I bought my house not through VA, but with my earnings running my 2 business. I being a single parent raising a child all on my own. No food stamps, no assistance. If my son need to go to a doctor i paid for it. That the way i was raised. And still qualified for the house. Street 88 you talk about those that need assistance sure their some folks that need help, but the most of them expect being taking care of by our goverment and are happy with that. Your right dreams most americans have them an get out an work for those dreams and turn them into reality. And as far going to the moon well i'm glad we did, if we hadn't we probable not be the super nation we are!! And as far as Walmart goes the had good quaterly report an increase in sales by 10%. I just left their an bought my grocery. Spent $110 One last thing Carl tells you he bought a house not through the VA, an yet you don't believe him, telling him he lucky and exception BS their alot of folks out their that has done it one way its called Hard work. Street 88 the majority of Americans have dreams an if you want it bad enough you reach for those dreams. But you got to have the desire.
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#93 Nov 22, 2008
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
To answer your questions, First... 400 a week (although I bring home more than that) is quite doable as long as you live within your means..
Weekly Gross Pay
$711.54
Federal Withholding
$48.51
Social Security
$44.12
Medicare
$10.32
South Carolina
$34.35
“Benefits Avg.”
$85.38
( on avegrage 12% of ones pay goes toward paying for ones benefits, medical insurance, 401K, etc.)
Net Pay
$488.86
Ok, so I was off by 88 dollars, give or take a little depending upon deductions. Nevertheless that’s not a lot. I’m not saying its not “doable”, a wino bumming 2 bucks in change a day is “doable” also, if you want to be a wino. However most tend to find that lifestyle displeasing.
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
I have no credit cards, therefore no credit card debt. Second, I did not use the VA to buy my home(I used money I had on hand)…
Wow, before your current job you worked as a Correctional Officer making $24000.00yr. Yet you found a way to save money for a home. Some simple math skills tell me something doesn’t add up there. Since you’ve had your current job for less than 8years. Now I’m truly not attempting to insult you, but somebody had to help you somewhere on that path, or a whole lot of luck panned out.
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
…and even if I did, that is not giving me a handout due to circumstances that are beyond my control, that is a benefit that is available to anyone who honorably serves in the Armed Forces.
Welfare is welfare regardless of the fancy names we place on it, or the reason we give it. VA loans are backed up with taxpayer money, therefore its welfare. Its like federal housing long term.
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
Joining the Teamsters??? Is that a joke? Labor unions had their time, but now, the Labor unions are doing alot more harm than good. If you disagree with me, all you have to do is look at the "Big Three"... All of them are in a "Labor Friendly State" and they are all in financial jeopardy.
So if they were in a non- Labor Friendly State they would be prosperous? That’s silly. Poor management has done the Big 3 in, not the unions. When Honda, Toyota, etc started investing in green technology five years ago, the big three were still investing in gas guzzlers. Ah, that damn HEMI. They didn’t get on board until just this past year, when gas prices started skyrocketing, and nobody was buying their autos. How anyone could blame the workers is amazing, when the obvious blame lies with management and its failures. The other part of that is a good portion of the blame lies with the banks and their tightness on loans, the credit crunch, and a horrid economy…I recall BMW laying off 700 workers….must be the union, Oh that’s right they don’t have a union.
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#94 Nov 22, 2008
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
The reason GM/Ford/Chrysler are all so much more expensive than most of the other cars made in America today are because of the Labor Unions. Take for example General Motors.$1,600 of every GM car you buy goes toward the healthcare costs of union workers. For companies like Toyota that aren't unionized - that cost is only $200 per car.
GM also spends another $1,000 per vehicle on holiday pay, work rules, plant-shutdown-pay and line-relief to UAW workers. Those are costs that auto makers such as Toyota don't have to worry about. The average Ford, GM or Chrysler union worker makes about $71.00 or more per hour if you count in all the benefits that the Unions insist upon. For Toyota, Nissan and the rest ... about $48.00 per hour. Do you detect a small problem here?
Yeah I do detect a problem, your stats are misleading; at least in the way you word them. The average salary pay for union and non-union workers is about the same at $29.00hr. The healthcare benefits and retirement benefits is really what hurts the Big 3, mostly the retirement benefits, and yes it does added up to $ 71.00hr, but what is wrong with that? Working class people shouldn’t get a fair and decent wage package? You’ve got to have a white collar for such? General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC sold 8.5 million vehicles in the United States last year and millions more around the world. GM outsold Toyota by about 1.2 million vehicles in the United States last year and holds a U.S. lead over Toyota of about 560,000 so far this year. Globally, GM in 2007 remained the world's largest automaker, selling 9,369,524 vehicles worldwide -- about 3,000 more than Toyota. You take 9,369,524 and multiply it times $18,000 the average price of a car, and tell me that the workers are the problem! I find it funny you don’t mention the pay of the top executives of these companies as a problem, yet you worry if their retirees take Viagra..
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
Should we bail out these people? I find it funny the only auto companies we are hearing about in financial stress are the "Big Three".
Hell yes you should, or you won’t have to worry about a job, chances are good you will be out of work too. As will a lot of Americans. The Big 3 falling is not an option. Even Toyota is worried about them failing, since Toyota buys a good portion of its parts from the same suppliers as GM, GM’s failure would result in Toyotas. You have this absurd notion a bailout of the auto industry is a bailout for the UAW, it is not. It’s a bailout for America, except unlike the current bailout, it effects Working Class people mostly. A group of people you seem to be against. And to think its just them hurting is absurd, all auto sells are off by over 25%… Think and Thank GW Bush and a bad economy
Carl in Murrells Inlet wrote:
Labor Unions had their time, but that time is passed.
Workers need them now more than ever!

I think you missed the closing point of my last post. Americans at one time cared about Americans, we don’t anymore, selfishness and greed of our society has gotten the best of us. We don’t dream for America, we dream only for ourselves
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#95 Nov 22, 2008
jja wrote:
Street 88 just wants a hand out.
I don't recall saying I need a "handout", nor do I need one. some do though, I have no problem helping those that do. I'm not cheap.
jja wrote:
the majority of the folks that voted for Brack Hussein Obama will eventually regret voting for him. As they expect something for free.
Wow, like half the country wants something free...You are a smart fella

The rest of your post is hogwash. But I did find these of interest
jja wrote:
And as far as Walmart goes the had good quaterly report an increase in sales by 10%. I just left their an bought my grocery. Spent $110
You know how often I shop at Wal-Mart? NEVER, Wal-Mart destroys working class people, it puts people on welfare and does not pay decent wages, or supply decent benefits. Don’t whine about people getting “handouts” when you support the companies that put them on it.
jja wrote:
Street 88 the majority of Americans have dreams an if you want it bad enough you reach for those dreams. But you got to have the desire.
Don’t tell me something, when you have no clue as to what I do, or what I might desire.
JAW

Longs, SC

#96 Nov 22, 2008
Don't care what you do, just tired of supporting lazy people and this newly elected adminstration wants an will support more of them. Take this country down. And your right Walmart doesn't help the small business, but it does save people money. And it not a union. This new elected adminstration will do all it can to bring this company down all with the rest of everybody that live here.
Streets 88 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't recall saying I need a "handout", nor do I need one. some do though, I have no problem helping those that do. I'm not cheap.
<quoted text>
Wow, like half the country wants something free...You are a smart fella
The rest of your post is hogwash. But I did find these of interest
<quoted text>
You know how often I shop at Wal-Mart? NEVER, Wal-Mart destroys working class people, it puts people on welfare and does not pay decent wages, or supply decent benefits. Don’t whine about people getting “handouts” when you support the companies that put them on it.
<quoted text>
Don’t tell me something, when you have no clue as to what I do, or what I might desire.
jja

Longs, SC

#97 Nov 22, 2008
Also Street 88 walmart does pay decent wage's you put your time in it does along with any other job. It does pay for medical, dental 401k, investment in the company. You state you never been in walmart that a lie. But then your so full of it you act as you live on another planet. Get real
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#98 Nov 22, 2008
JAW wrote:
Don't care what you do, just tired of supporting lazy people and this newly elected adminstration wants an will support more of them.
Well, what gives you that idea?
JAW wrote:
And your right Walmart doesn't help the small business, but it does save people money. And it not a union.
And God knows saving a few pennies, is worth the price of others. I guess supporting China is more important than supporting Americans.
JAW wrote:
This new elected adminstration will do all it can to bring this company down all with the rest of everybody that live here.<quoted text>
Got something to back that up?
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#99 Nov 22, 2008
jja wrote:
Also Street 88 walmart does pay decent wage's you put your time in it does along with any other job. It does pay for medical, dental 401k, investment in the company.
Wal-Mart doesn't even come close to paying a decent wage, they are almost three dollars under the national average for retail sales, and four dollars under grocery workers. There medical/dental is not cost effective for their workers, given the low wages they already pay.
President and CEO Lee Scott said in 2005, "In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value - with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums." Thats the CEO of Wal-Mart advocating that its workers are better off on welfare.
jja wrote:
You state you never been in walmart that a lie. But then your so full of it you act as you live on another planet. Get real
You live next door? You know where I shop, you must. I don't shop at Wal-Mart, I believe in supporting America, not China, like you.
jja

Longs, SC

#100 Nov 23, 2008
LOL look on the back of everything you buy it made in china or tawain weather its in walmart are not. Well in SC if you put at least 5 years in at walmart they pay i do know that for a fact because i know employees that work there 7 years an making $14 bucks a hour medical, dental holiday pay What wrong with that.
Streets 88 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wal-Mart doesn't even come close to paying a decent wage, they are almost three dollars under the national average for retail sales, and four dollars under grocery workers. There medical/dental is not cost effective for their workers, given the low wages they already pay.
President and CEO Lee Scott said in 2005, "In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value - with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums." Thats the CEO of Wal-Mart advocating that its workers are better off on welfare.
<quoted text>
You live next door? You know where I shop, you must. I don't shop at Wal-Mart, I believe in supporting America, not China, like you.
Streets 88

Shaw A F B, SC

#101 Nov 23, 2008
jja wrote:
LOL look on the back of everything you buy it made in china or tawain weather its in walmart are not. Well in SC if you put at least 5 years in at walmart they pay i do know that for a fact because i know employees that work there 7 years an making $14 bucks a hour medical, dental holiday pay What wrong with that.<quoted text>
Nobody at Wal-Mart is making $14.00hr unless they are manager. And to have to work for a company for 5 years is a bit much, for a decent wage. Shouldn't they pay the National Average to begin with?

Its true a good many products are made in Asian contries, but I do my best not to buy them. And 89% of Wal-Mart comes from China, thats a little much. You can continue to shop there, I already know you care only about yourself. I know you are pretty damn Anti-American.
jja

Conway, SC

#102 Nov 24, 2008
Stree 88 If anybody pretty damm Anti American it you. You don't believe anything your self center on your self. My girl friend works at walmart been their for 7 years she not a manger she makes $14 a hour, she has dental, medical, holiday pay walmart stock. Back to post way back you think everybody wrong your right. I have a automotive shop i do for my community all the time everyday alot time at dicount price or for free. I Love God an my fellow man. As for you, help is out their. I take it you have a few friends an the ones you have only hang out for a reason. It must be lonely. One last thing go to Church it will make you feel better.

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