Schafferstown EMS plans new home

Schafferstown EMS plans new home

There are 169 comments on the Lebanon Daily News story from Apr 17, 2011, titled Schafferstown EMS plans new home. In it, Lebanon Daily News reports that:

Schaefferstown Emergency Medical Services is hoping to move into a new home early next year.

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oldgeezer

Lebanon, PA

#1 Apr 17, 2011
how will spending over half a million make ambulance service better in the area?
Schafferstown EMT

Lebanon, PA

#2 Apr 17, 2011
It will give us room to expand, more office space, and give us a place to stay overnight during bad weather. Also room to store supplies. We are all looking forward to it.
SCAA HA HA HA

United States

#3 Apr 17, 2011
oldgeezer wrote:
how will spending over half a million make ambulance service better in the area?
Uh, the same way a new 20 million dollar School wil make our kids smarter.
EMT

United States

#4 Apr 17, 2011
It will allow us to "live" at the station during harsher weather and even during the nice days. Having the crew in station will increase response times. We have no living quarters in the fire department at all, so...if you care to wait an additional 10-15 minutes for crews to reach the station in the middle of a snowstorm, remember that when you need an ambulance.
Hmmm

United States

#5 Apr 17, 2011
oldgeezer wrote:
how will spending over half a million make ambulance service better in the area?
Sounds like a response by a Nye...
Heidelberg Citizen

Lebanon, PA

#6 Apr 17, 2011
oldgeezer wrote:
how will spending over half a million make ambulance service better in the area?
I don't recall reading anything about making the ambulance service better. And what does it matter? It's not costing the public anything, so let them spend the money as they see fit.

I'm grateful we even have an ambulance close by. Some towns have to wait 15 minutes or more to get help. You should be happy we have these people close by!
SMB

Lebanon, PA

#7 Apr 18, 2011
Heidelberg Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't recall reading anything about making the ambulance service better. And what does it matter? It's not costing the public anything, so let them spend the money as they see fit.
I'm grateful we even have an ambulance close by. Some towns have to wait 15 minutes or more to get help. You should be happy we have these people close by!
ummm those "grants" are your tax dollars. Just thought you should know.
SOS now SOA

United States

#8 Apr 18, 2011
When this year was it so bad to have to sleep at the station. Give me a break. You have to wait 15 minutes anyway even during a nice sunny day, that is even if they get out, then you get an ungodly bill. I want a better service for the money, not a better building. I think Howard just likes spending money, how much was that new explorer?????
Half a million

United States

#9 Apr 18, 2011
If Howard is looking to spend that kind of money, why doesn't he offer $500,000 for the Schaefferstown Elementary school?

3 bays? For what?

Was the Fire Station charging a ridiculous amount for rent?
Just wondering

Lebanon, PA

#10 Apr 18, 2011
Schaefferstown = home of whiners.

Every time someone tries to make an improvement, the whiners come out from under their rocks.
Citizen

Lebanon, PA

#11 Apr 18, 2011
Yeah, the grants are tax dollars. The grants are out there to use whether they use them or they go to an organization 10 counties away. Would rather see the money here, since yes we did chip in. The weather issue? Maybe we didn't have such a bad winter this year, and I guess we never will? Article says they responded to all calls. As far as cost, I guess it's the going rate. My husband required ambulance service at his work and rates were much higher and the medic service was well over $1000. Since when does it matter what a person drives? Sounds like the ones that have a hard nut for Howard will just continue to spout asaine comments no matter what. Your fire and EMS
service are there for you in all kinds of weather and any time of day. These are your neighbors and may I say all VOLUNTEER. Be grateful for them.
Hmmm

United States

#12 Apr 18, 2011
SOS now SOA wrote:
When this year was it so bad to have to sleep at the station. Give me a break. You have to wait 15 minutes anyway even during a nice sunny day, that is even if they get out, then you get an ungodly bill. I want a better service for the money, not a better building. I think Howard just likes spending money, how much was that new explorer?????
Maybe a Krall now.... need a sign for tour front lawn. Howard didn't help SOA!
Congrats

Paradise, PA

#13 Apr 18, 2011
to the SCAA and HR Weaver!

Who were the other bidders?
Line Officer

Lebanon, PA

#14 Apr 18, 2011
Let me address one thing at a time as I saw them glancing over the comments...

1) No one ever said the service will be better. The service is already good, at least according to our patients that we've transported. Having our own building with every aspect of "living conditions" will encourage the providers to be at the building, therefore increasing response times, especially in bad weather conditions. In the fire department, these don't exist. There are no showers, no bunks, & no kitchen (other than 1 mini-fridge).

2) Response time: We get out on our calls, and in a timely manner. Our average time from the dispatch by the County 911 center until we arrive on scene is 10.54 minutes. Not 15 or more like someone mentioned. The national average response time in the US is 10-15 minutes. So, we are on the low end of the average, and we are VOLUNTEER.

3) 3 bays: 2 bays will be capable of housing apparatus. The 3rd will be mainly for storage. The hopes are to have another ambulance in the future as the town grows and more residents flow in and as a backup. As of now, if something mechanical would happen to our only ambulance, it means we have nothing.

4) As for the comments with the new school and his new Explorer, everyone has their own opinion, but they have no relevance to this topic. This building has been in the talks and wishes of the company for almost 10 years. It just hasn't happened until now. This project is not a Howard project, it's a project of the entire company and its members.

5) Funding: Yes, tax dollars go towards grants that fire companies and ambulance companies can get. We have very rarely touched grants. We survive out of pocket. We feel that this spending will be beneficial to our company and the community in the future. We know there will be those that oppose this move, but that is their right and opinion to have those views.

6) Rent: We have been paying the rent to the fire department now since they voted to charge us. This move was not entirely triggered by their motion to charge us rent. We have been wanting our own station and training facility for close to 10 years. It was just convenient that we found the land and the means to make this happen right now.
Congrats

Paradise, PA

#15 Apr 18, 2011
Line Officer wrote:
Let me address one thing at a time as I saw them glancing over the comments...
1) No one ever said the service will be better. The service is already good, at least according to our patients that we've transported. Having our own building with every aspect of "living conditions" will encourage the providers to be at the building, therefore increasing response times, especially in bad weather conditions. In the fire department, these don't exist. There are no showers, no bunks, & no kitchen (other than 1 mini-fridge).
2) Response time: We get out on our calls, and in a timely manner. Our average time from the dispatch by the County 911 center until we arrive on scene is 10.54 minutes. Not 15 or more like someone mentioned. The national average response time in the US is 10-15 minutes. So, we are on the low end of the average, and we are VOLUNTEER.
3) 3 bays: 2 bays will be capable of housing apparatus. The 3rd will be mainly for storage. The hopes are to have another ambulance in the future as the town grows and more residents flow in and as a backup. As of now, if something mechanical would happen to our only ambulance, it means we have nothing.
4) As for the comments with the new school and his new Explorer, everyone has their own opinion, but they have no relevance to this topic. This building has been in the talks and wishes of the company for almost 10 years. It just hasn't happened until now. This project is not a Howard project, it's a project of the entire company and its members.
5) Funding: Yes, tax dollars go towards grants that fire companies and ambulance companies can get. We have very rarely touched grants. We survive out of pocket. We feel that this spending will be beneficial to our company and the community in the future. We know there will be those that oppose this move, but that is their right and opinion to have those views.
6) Rent: We have been paying the rent to the fire department now since they voted to charge us. This move was not entirely triggered by their motion to charge us rent. We have been wanting our own station and training facility for close to 10 years. It was just convenient that we found the land and the means to make this happen right now.
who were the other bidders?
Another Kramer building

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Apr 18, 2011
I wonder if Kramer will take the same approach as the Intermediate School: "damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead". He doesn't care what the community wants or cares about, and now he is *trying* to run for school board again. I guess he is pushing hard on this building (again, in step with his moves for the IS building) to get his name in the paper and get free political advertising. Not exactly the moves of a humble community servant.
just wondering also

York, PA

#17 Apr 18, 2011
Just wondering wrote:
Schaefferstown = home of whiners.
Every time someone tries to make an improvement, the whiners come out from under their rocks.
That is absolutely the truth. I am soon embarrassed to say that I am a Heidelberg Township resident. Grow up people and stop blaming one person one things don't go the way you want them to.
Howard I think you are doing great and you have my vote for school board!!!
Citizen

Lebanon, PA

#18 Apr 18, 2011
Didn't know you needed a bidder for a private project
SOS now SOA

Lebanon, PA

#19 Apr 18, 2011
Line Officer wrote:
Let me address one thing at a time as I saw them glancing over the comments...
1) No one ever said the service will be better. The service is already good, at least according to our patients that we've transported. Having our own building with every aspect of "living conditions" will encourage the providers to be at the building, therefore increasing response times, especially in bad weather conditions. In the fire department, these don't exist. There are no showers, no bunks, & no kitchen (other than 1 mini-fridge).
2) Response time: We get out on our calls, and in a timely manner. Our average time from the dispatch by the County 911 center until we arrive on scene is 10.54 minutes. Not 15 or more like someone mentioned. The national average response time in the US is 10-15 minutes. So, we are on the low end of the average, and we are VOLUNTEER.
3) 3 bays: 2 bays will be capable of housing apparatus. The 3rd will be mainly for storage. The hopes are to have another ambulance in the future as the town grows and more residents flow in and as a backup. As of now, if something mechanical would happen to our only ambulance, it means we have nothing.
4) As for the comments with the new school and his new Explorer, everyone has their own opinion, but they have no relevance to this topic. This building has been in the talks and wishes of the company for almost 10 years. It just hasn't happened until now. This project is not a Howard project, it's a project of the entire company and its members.
5) Funding: Yes, tax dollars go towards grants that fire companies and ambulance companies can get. We have very rarely touched grants. We survive out of pocket. We feel that this spending will be beneficial to our company and the community in the future. We know there will be those that oppose this move, but that is their right and opinion to have those views.
6) Rent: We have been paying the rent to the fire department now since they voted to charge us. This move was not entirely triggered by their motion to charge us rent. We have been wanting our own station and training facility for close to 10 years. It was just convenient that we found the land and the means to make this happen right now.
Hmmm line officer,
Per your web page it's either Dennis - naa
Loren - maybe but I doubt it or Howard - ding ding ding. I think I got it.
Congrats

Paradise, PA

#20 Apr 18, 2011
Citizen wrote:
Didn't know you needed a bidder for a private project
I never said you "needed" one. Dont you think its fiscally responsible to do so?

In cased you live under a rock, Contractors are definitely sharpening their pencils these days. I mean wasn't the economy and getting good deals one of the reasons to build the new school? Not to mention in essence you are using public funds ( subscriptions from the public for funding)

So are you saying there were no "bids"?

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