Childdeath lawsuit will move forward

[Frankie]

Questionforyou wrote:

While I'm at it, why does rjb4400 keep coming on here with not only different names, but totally different stories about how she got here to post?
For example; pg. 212, post #4594 she is 'Kelsey Is The Only Victim' dated August 13, 2008.
On pg. 235, post #5056 Aug. 29, 2008, she is 'me too' and telling that she learned of this story through a victim of cancer that cried all the time about it.
But on pg. 253, post # 5412, Oct. 12, 2008, she comes back again as rjb4400 acting like a church lady that has just hear through the internet with her other church lady friends about this story and decides to join while acting totally stupid about who anyone is and what the story is.
Although I am not ignorant and know that everyone changes their names on these things, I fail to understand why a person would pretend to have heard it in so many different ways and play such an elaborate game on the other posters while making I'm the one telling the truth statements. I'm confused on this. I guess it is a game?
Feel free to call this person anything you want, she has multiple names and reasons for being here and finding this site a couple weeks ago. Now she is the EXPERT on this case.

Isn't this like the skillet calling the pot black? What with all the Radon-Is-God-All-Worship-At-Th e-Feet-Of-Radon people posting under numerous names to make people think there are more than ten of you; you guys want to pitch a bitch about one person who has never denied using more than one name? Maybe this is why no one buys the frykelseysmom people's stories, because you're all so duplicitous and lacking in integrity. And yeah, I'm responding to your idiotic posts on several threads, as you posted this same stupidity on several different threads.

[marie montana]

Shonya Kay wrote:

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Lance was not married to Michael Porter.
Lance did not live in that home.
Lance did not know of the severity of Kelsey's abuse.
Raye Dawn married Michael Porter after
Kelsey was abused and,
a court order stated Kelsey was not to have contact with Michael Porter.
Raye Dawn lived with Michael Porter.
Raye Dawn observed the interactions between Mike and Kelsey on a daily basis.
Raye Dawn knew her baby's hair was falling out.
"whether she was pulling her hair out or it was falling out there was a problem somewhere."
"my baby had not one,but two broken legs."
"I remember crying and screaming out to my mom,"
"Mom what's going on?" ~ Raye Dawn's Letter
Kelsey said to Raye Dawn directly,
"Daddy Mike hurt my head."
This was witnessed by A child welfare aid and testified at Raye Dawn's trial.
So let me get this straight....
Lance should have known and worked harder to stop Kelsey from being beaten to death,yet you claim Kelsey's mother Raye Dawn had no clue or responsibility because she didn't have a crystal ball?
Raye Dawn had full custody of Kelsey after
June 15-16,2005.
Raye Dawn is her mother and was with Kelsey everyday.

Wow, that about sums it up doesn't it?? Any chance of RD appealing her sentence?? Where is she now?? I won't even ask where MP is because I hope he's dying off somewhere. I have never read about a case this sad. And I think your videos are wonderful, beautiful and such a touching way to remember Kelsey. Nice work. I can't listen to the song "somewhere over the rainbow" anymore, the images I remember are too sad.

[Frankie]

You're right, Marie. Shonya's videos are touching. At least, for all the pain she suffered, we can all take comfort in the fact that she IS over the rainbow now, in Jesus' arms, and He'll see to it that no one ever hurts her again.

[rjb4400]

Marie,
I am so glad to see that you are still reading about this case. It's difinitely sad to say the least.

Frankie and Marie,
Please go to the autopsy thread and read the last post from me. I don't know if you have read this part of the OSBI interview and it is very telling. Marie, honey I won't ask you to post your opinion because of all the attacks on that thread and if you post you might be there next target for some to attack. Frankie has been through their attacks many times and handles it very well but if you post that is up to you. Just wondered how you felt about this one part of the OSBI. I find it utterly disgusting myself but I wondered how others would feel. Thanks so much.

[marie montana]

rjb4400 wrote:

Marie,
I am so glad to see that you are still reading about this case. It's difinitely sad to say the least.
Frankie and Marie,
Please go to the autopsy thread and read the last post from me. I don't know if you have read this part of the OSBI interview and it is very telling. Marie, honey I won't ask you to post your opinion because of all the attacks on that thread and if you post you might be there next target for some to attack. Frankie has been through their attacks many times and handles it very well but if you post that is up to you. Just wondered how you felt about this one part of the OSBI. I find it utterly disgusting myself but I wondered how others would feel. Thanks so much.

Hey rjb! Yes, I'm still here and still reading and studying and shaking my head and wondering how this all happened. I'll always be here reading and wondering until the last day of this horror story, until something finally gives or someone is finally honest and tells us what really happened. I read the part about no tears from RD. What mother doesn't cry when her beautiful, sweet, innocent, helpless and loving little daughter is murdered?? Really, what that's all about??

[rjb4400]

Marie,
I will never understand how RD could sit and discuss the day her baby died and not be crying uncontrollable. There is alot about this case that I don't understand. I don't guess we will ever know the complete truth but we do have the documents to go by. I would really like to read something somewhere that would make me feel something for RD. Something that shows that RD is feeling remorse for her part in Kelsey's death but I have never found it. I think RD believes that she is not responsible in no way for Kelsey's death and I find that sad. Maybe a part of that comes from Gayla reinforcing that RD is not responsible. I don't know but I just think its sad.

I am going to send you a message on youtube. Off to send it now.

[Belozer0]

rjb4400 wrote:

Marie,
I will never understand how RD could sit and discuss the day her baby died and not be crying uncontrollable. There is alot about this case that I don't understand. I don't guess we will ever know the complete truth but we do have the documents to go by. I would really like to read something somewhere that would make me feel something for RD. Something that shows that RD is feeling remorse for her part in Kelsey's death but I have never found it. I think RD believes that she is not responsible in no way for Kelsey's death and I find that sad. Maybe a part of that comes from Gayla reinforcing that RD is not responsible. I don't know but I just think its sad.
I am going to send you a message on youtube. Off to send it now.

You claim to be for Kelsey and advocate for Kelsey yet you mainly harp on RD, when are you going to harp on Porter also? A true person that supports Kelsey harps on both RD and Porter.

btw regarding this topic about Lance briggs, I hope they throw this lawsuit in the trash with the rest of the junk, and any parent who puts a price tag on there kid never deserved to have them in the first place.

[called out]

"No physician was on staff at the Prague Hospital: therefore,****** Gibson, a physician's assistant, was in charge. Ms. Gibson estimated that Kelsey had been down for about 45 minutes when she arrived at Prague at 3:59 p.m. They continued to "Code" Kelsey for another 45 minutes before they called time of death. Ms. Gibson called her time of death at 4:45 p.m. Raye Dawn requested that an autopsy be performed because she wanted to know what happened to her daughter. Porter, on the other hand, objected to an autopsy being performed. Ms. Gibson testified that Kelsey had two small bruises on her face and one on her shin, which wasn't anything out of the ordinary. She testified that she did not notice any unusual bruising on Kelsey, and that she examined Kelsey's entire body and turned her over to look at her back. In fact, the first evidence of trauma is post-mortem

[NoUse]

I hope Lance Briggs WINS the lawsuit, Key gets disbarred, Raye Dawn gets life if she gets a new trial, and the robots get their oil jobs on time.
Lance never put a price tag on Kelsey, Lance deserved so much more with Kelsey than Raye Dawn allowed him. She stole the first 4 months of Kelsey's life not only from Lance and his family, but also stole from Kelsey, time with her daddy. Instead of Raye Dawn lying and telling another man he was Kelsey's father when she knew he wasn't, she should have been been apparently learning how to be a parent herself. Then not only does she steal the first 4 months from them, then the last few months that Kelsey was alive, and finally, she stole the rest of Kelsey's life. She wanted to keep Kelsey away from Lance and the Briggs from the very beginning.....well she certainly managed to end up doing just that didn't she? SHE is the one that does not deserve any children, as is evident by her lack of responsibility with Kelsey's life, and certainly brought to light in the very enlightening pre-sentencing report. Anyone who has not read Raye Dawn's pre-sentencing report, I urge you to read it front to back, this will give you great insight into the prison princess, Raye Dawn Smith, and make you really question why anyone is advocating to free her from the hell she made for herself, she's no one to blame but Raye Dawn.

Belozer0 wrote:

<quoted text> You claim to be for Kelsey and advocate for Kelsey yet you mainly harp on RD, when are you going to harp on Porter also? A true person that supports Kelsey harps on both RD and Porter.
btw regarding this topic about Lance briggs, I hope they throw this lawsuit in the trash with the rest of the junk, and any parent who puts a price tag on there kid never deserved to have them in the first place.

[sick]

NoUse wrote:

I hope Lance Briggs WINS the lawsuit, Key gets disbarred, Raye Dawn gets life if she gets a new trial, and the robots get their oil jobs on time.
Lance never put a price tag on Kelsey, Lance deserved so much more with Kelsey than Raye Dawn allowed him. She stole the first 4 months of Kelsey's life not only from Lance and his family, but also stole from Kelsey, time with her daddy. Instead of Raye Dawn lying and telling another man he was Kelsey's father when she knew he wasn't, she should have been been apparently learning how to be a parent herself. Then not only does she steal the first 4 months from them, then the last few months that Kelsey was alive, and finally, she stole the rest of Kelsey's life. She wanted to keep Kelsey away from Lance and the Briggs from the very beginning.....well she certainly managed to end up doing just that didn't she? SHE is the one that does not deserve any children, as is evident by her lack of responsibility with Kelsey's life, and certainly brought to light in the very enlightening pre-sentencing report. Anyone who has not read Raye Dawn's pre-sentencing report, I urge you to read it front to back, this will give you great insight into the prison princess, Raye Dawn Smith, and make you really question why anyone is advocating to free her from the hell she made for herself, she's no one to blame but Raye Dawn.
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If you weren't so damn mean it might be possible to pity you - you have so much hate oozing out of you -

[called out]

YOu get so upset over the wierdest things?

[called out]

sick wrote:

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If you weren't so damn mean it might be possible to pity you - you have so much hate oozing out of you -

RIGHT ON THE MONEY THERE!!!! I wonder what could have caused so much hate for one woman...tell me nouse what could have raye possibly done that would make you hate her THAT much? YOu never knew Kelsey or anyone in the family...right?

[NoUse]

Let me once again explain something to you unfortunate simple minded robots, who cannot or will not think for themselves.

I do NOT hate Raye Dawn Smith. I DO however, HATE what she did to her own daughter, and what she ALLOWED to happen to her own daughter. There is a difference. One can hate the actions and/or lack OF actions of a person without hating that person. I don't hate her, I feel sorry for her.

It's obvious Abbie that you think Raye Dawn did no wrong. How sad, and how sad for your children. But didn't you post that after the rally, your b/f took your children and left? No wonder you don't "get" what Raye Dawn did wrong. I still don't hate her but she did do so much wrong that she sits in prison and her daughter lies in a cold, dark grave.
Again you all can twist things any way you want, it doesn't change anything. If you truely don't "get it", it still doesn't change a thing. I really feel sorry for some of you too. Esp. if you have gotten yourself so wrapped up in RD's problems, you give up or lose your own family. And even sorrier for you, that you think she really gives a damn about you.

[rjb4400]

Your opinion of a true person that supports Kellsey means nothing. I know why I am here. One thing for sure is you sure the hell don't support the VICTIM.

Your question is so easily answered. I will harp on Porter when I see a group of people trying to free Porter from prison...You and others are on the internet trying to free RD and that is why some of us harp on RD... I never claimed to be an advocate but I do think Kelsey's TRUE story by the docucents need to be told.... I will continue to "HARP" on rd until someone makes me aware of a group trying to free Porter....

You claim to be for Kelsey and advocate for Kelsey yet you mainly harp on RD, when are you going to harp on Porter also? A true person that supports Kelsey harps on both RD and Porter.

[called out]

NoUse wrote:

Let me once again explain something to you unfortunate simple minded robots, who cannot or will not think for themselves.
I do NOT hate Raye Dawn Smith. I DO however, HATE what she did to her own daughter, and what she ALLOWED to happen to her own daughter. There is a difference. One can hate the actions and/or lack OF actions of a person without hating that person. I don't hate her, I feel sorry for her.
It's obvious Abbie that you think Raye Dawn did no wrong. How sad, and how sad for your children. But didn't you post that after the rally, your b/f took your children and left? No wonder you don't "get" what Raye Dawn did wrong. I still don't hate her but she did do so much wrong that she sits in prison and her daughter lies in a cold, dark grave.
Again you all can twist things any way you want, it doesn't change anything. If you truely don't "get it", it still doesn't change a thing. I really feel sorry for some of you too. Esp. if you have gotten yourself so wrapped up in RD's problems, you give up or lose your own family. And even sorrier for you, that you think she really gives a damn about you.

actually he did not leave and I am here with my son and new twin girls. Not that it really matters anyway...you think you know S4T..since you talked with him and all right? I came to OK to support Raye and her story..none of yo give a damn to even take into consideration that her story could be true, I have no benefit from beliveing it...trust me! You just sometimes have to look at the unexpected..just like what happened to her.

[NoUse]

Her "story" is just that, a story, and no I do not believe it to be true. Her "story" changes so much, I'm not even sure WHAT story she is telling at the present time, and could change tomorrow. She's guilty of at least what she was convicted of, and very likely way more. Facts prove that.
Now I'm S4T? lol always good to know "who" you are in a given day. Thanks

[rjb4400]

NoUse,
Here is a comment posted by Abbie from August of 2008. I found it interesting, very contradicting to what she just posted.

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lol....good response. You know nothing of my family..what family?? I dont even have have a family you dumb lady!!! Shows how much you know!

[Frankie]

called out wrote:

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actually he did not leave and I am here with my son and new twin girls. Not that it really matters anyway...you think you know S4T..since you talked with him and all right? I came to OK to support Raye and her story..none of yo give a damn to even take into consideration that her story could be true, I have no benefit from beliveing it...trust me! You just sometimes have to look at the unexpected..just like what happened to her.

Her story could be true, and monkeys could fly out of my butt.

[NoUse]

lol, Frankie, you have SUCH a way with words, which is why we all love you here!

Frankie wrote:

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Her story could be true, and monkeys could fly out of my butt.

[Frankie]

NoUse wrote:

lol, Frankie, you have SUCH a way with words, which is why we all love you here!
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Right back atcha, but that's not original with me -- that came from the classic cinematic masterpiece, Wayne's World.