Man Dies From Stab Wounds In Okay Bar...

Man Dies From Stab Wounds In Okay Bar Incident Tuesday Night

There are 34 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Aug 19, 2010, titled Man Dies From Stab Wounds In Okay Bar Incident Tuesday Night. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

A Muskogee County man is in the Wagoner County jail charged with first degree murder in the stabbing death of an Okay man late Tuesday evening.

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“Life Is Great”

Since: Aug 10

blanchard

#2 Aug 19, 2010
Once again booze takes another life and this time it wasn't behind the wheel Seems to be alot of booze and drug related deaths lately!
annonomys

Muskogee, OK

#4 Aug 19, 2010
This was my brother that was murdered. I hope and pray they shut this bar down. We will Get justice for this crime!!
just wondering

Sedgwick, KS

#6 Aug 19, 2010
I am sorry for your loss. Alcohol makes stupid people more stupid, but not all people that drink are violent. Many use alcohol or drugs as an excuse for their behavior. I have seen violence from sober people.

“Philippians 4:13”

Since: Mar 10

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#7 Aug 19, 2010
just wondering wrote:
Many use alcohol or drugs as an excuse for their behavior.
I agree with you.
Anonymous

Warner Robins, GA

#8 Aug 19, 2010
This story is more than Mr Lee getting stabbed.
Ervin isn't a violent individual. Lean towards Ervin getting jumped on, it is unlikely a stand-up comic would just STAB someone for no reason, right?
anothermom

United States

#9 Aug 19, 2010
Rest in Peace Billy. Thoughts and prayers need to go to both sides here. Alot of innocent people are affected by this.
annonomys

Muskogee, OK

#10 Aug 19, 2010
So Thats why someone who isnt violent would go out of their way to go get a knife and stab someone 6 times?? i call bullcrap on that! i have no sympathy for the man who did this! no matter how mad you are you DO NOT take another persons life!!!
notfound

Kittanning, PA

#11 Aug 20, 2010
i know ervin personally and i know that more than one guy jumped on him i not saying that he should have died but you can't just pick on someone cause there not like you .i see this as self defense .ill pray for the best
annonomys

Muskogee, OK

#12 Aug 20, 2010
So your telling me self defense means leaving...coming back with a knife...and KILLING!!! He sounds crazy to me! no matter how mad you are....dont take someones loved ones!
Lookathim

Tulsa, OK

#13 Aug 20, 2010
annonomys wrote:
So your telling me self defense means leaving...coming back with a knife...and KILLING!!! He sounds crazy to me! no matter how mad you are....dont take someones loved ones!
Are you CRAZY?? The guy left the bar and came back with a knife and killed the other guy. Thats NOT self defense thats premeditated murder and thats what he should be charged with.
notfound

Kittanning, PA

#14 Aug 20, 2010
first of all he did probaly go home but hes always had a knife on him since he was 10 for punk bitchs like this
annonomys

Muskogee, OK

#15 Aug 20, 2010
notfound wrote:
first of all he did probaly go home but hes always had a knife on him since he was 10 for punk bitchs like this
How would you feel if this was your loved one that was murdered? I know for a fact that you would think differently! Unless your some sort of pycho like this guy must have been!!
Anonymous

Warner Robins, GA

#16 Aug 22, 2010
It isn't "murder" when it's done in self defense.
And yeah, Ervin always had a knife, on him..because people targeted him for being a weakling and a pushover- which he was.

"Anonymous" who I am pretty sure is the one who was sending threats to Ervin's friends over Facebook..your circle of friends has already forced Ervin's mother and brother to seek a police escort to flee their home for their own safety...no, Billy didn't run with a violent crowd at all did he?

Sorry your brother got killed, but having done some research on your family history I'd say your brother was probably more of a trouble-maker than Ervin was..all he's ever been in trouble for was DUA and curfew violations when he was younger.

Nothing like manufacturing meth or conspiracy to commit felony theft and theft by receiving..sorry. Or was that his dad? Either way..not exactly a perfect childhood..and it is sad. But having discovered these facts, it is much easier to see Billy having been the instigator than Ervin..a stand-up comic who has never been arrested for anything violent and who would do anything for anyone doesn't just stab someone 6 times for no reason. On the other hand, the child of a repeat violent offender, whose circle of friends already scared Ervin's family so bad they had to hide and run away from their HOME..hmm..who is the violent group of people here?

AND FYI...Ervin's little brother's dad just died, they haven't had a chance to grieve either. I'm going to put my money on the a-holes who are so selfish that they would terrorize an innocent family being the ones who started this violence.

Kudos to you and your friends for being so selfish as to think your loss is the only one that matters and making what is a horrible ordeal for Ervin's family exponentially worse. You make it so easy to believe you and your brother were SOOOOO sweet and innocent..with all those threats and spinning tires/breaking bottles in Ervin's mother's lawn.
Sofa-king

Broken Arrow, OK

#17 Aug 22, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
It isn't "murder" when it's done in self defense.
Agree..., whole heartedly!!!

My cousin Larry W, had the misfortune of getting into a "bar fight" with a (bad?) "cops kid"... Larry "defended" himself (against violence) by pulling his knife and "using it".

His sugar daddy (a tulsa cop), made sure that my cousin was "railroaded" (framed by a false witness he coerced...) in court, and then, put in prison for the maximum allowable penalty.

What exactly was "junior" doing in the bar? Why was he picking fights? Was it because he was a spoiled brat? Maybe, it was because he knew his "DADDY", could probably get him "off", for "anything" that he did wrong????? Hmmm

Don't trust (tulsa, etc...?) "city cops". You'll be sorry.

“Seeking the truth...”

Since: Sep 09

West Tulsa, Oklahoma

#18 Aug 22, 2010
Sofa-king wrote:
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Agree..., whole heartedly!!!
My cousin Larry W, had the misfortune of getting into a "bar fight" with a (bad?) "cops kid"... Larry "defended" himself (against violence) by pulling his knife and "using it".
His sugar daddy (a tulsa cop), made sure that my cousin was "railroaded" (framed by a false witness he coerced...) in court, and then, put in prison for the maximum allowable penalty.
What exactly was "junior" doing in the bar? Why was he picking fights? Was it because he was a spoiled brat? Maybe, it was because he knew his "DADDY", could probably get him "off", for "anything" that he did wrong????? Hmmm
Don't trust (tulsa, etc...?) "city cops". You'll be sorry.
Recent events such as the TPD cops fired and charged with framing people and plain out lieing against people make it hard to disagree wth you. A lot of dope heads were set free, and some will sue the city and win.

Cops have a BIG black eye right now. The problem is we need to be able to trust them at times, but how can we tell the good from the bad?
Anonymous

Warner Robins, GA

#19 Aug 22, 2010
Sofa-king wrote:
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Maybe, it was because he knew his "DADDY", could probably get him "off", for "anything" that he did wrong????? Hmmm
Don't trust (tulsa, etc...?) "city cops". You'll be sorry.
What exactly was the relationship between the victim and the police force?

I have heard rumors of relatives in town trying to railroad Ervin with connections in law enforcement or something, but you seem pretty matter-of-fact about the victim's ability or presumed ability to get away with petty crimes?
Sofa-king

Broken Arrow, OK

#20 Aug 22, 2010
My point exactly.

Several high level cops were recently caught stealing "dope" from the evidence locker...

We expect law enforcers to "live" by a "higher standard", do we not?

Yet, when you evaluate these "people", it comes down to the same old, tired. human compulsions: power, influence, dominance, vanity, greed, and maybe some kind of "over-compensation". .., I think.
Sofa-king

Broken Arrow, OK

#21 Aug 22, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
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I have heard rumors of relatives in town trying to railroad Ervin with connections in law enforcement or something, but you seem pretty matter-of-fact about the victim's ability or presumed ability to get away with petty crimes?
It's called the "blue shield"...

The cops (especially), DA's, prosecutors, judges, and the court system in general... All tend to "stick up" for each other, in questions of law...

They like to call it "professional courtesy", but it means that:

If you (or your family, "friends", etc...), are connected to law enforcement..., and you have legal issues...

You will gain "special consideration" in court, etc..., and people will even "lie" for you under oath (especially other cops)...

“Seeking the truth...”

Since: Sep 09

West Tulsa, Oklahoma

#22 Aug 22, 2010
Sofa-king wrote:
My point exactly.
Several high level cops were recently caught stealing "dope" from the evidence locker...
We expect law enforcers to "live" by a "higher standard", do we not?
Yet, when you evaluate these "people", it comes down to the same old, tired. human compulsions: power, influence, dominance, vanity, greed, and maybe some kind of "over-compensation". .., I think.
Yes, indeed we expect cops and even clergy to live by higher standards, and yet there are dirty cops framing people, and even dirtier clergy molesting children.

I think you nailed it when you mentioned the "human" factor.

In all my years, I've known a few "Dudley Dooright" types, and eventually even they show the human side and cross the line.

My only answer is to continue to hold them to a higher standard, and when they break that sacred trust, give them at least TWICE the penalty.
Anonymous

Warner Robins, GA

#23 Aug 22, 2010
I meant to say, who did Mr. Lee have connections with?

Someone said (and this was hearsay) that his uncle or something was a cop. But like I said, you sounded like you knew more about it than I..which is why I never alluded to the rumor until your post.

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