Developer revives plans for Muskegon Casino

MUSKEGON - Promoters of a proposed casino in downtown Muskegon are trying to keep their project alive.

[lowdown]

thats what this community needs

[Yikes]

I wish something like this would come to downtown GR. It boggles my mind that they want to put up another stupid hotel. We need more attractions!

Neko, I'm starting to get the feeling that you hate anything & everyone religious. I agree that there is a lot of hyprocrisy on the part of organized religion, but not EVERY person with some form of religion in their life is a zealot. You risk alienating a lot of truly good people with the language you use.

[Herman]

Too bad. I hope it fails. A casino is a losing proposition for any community. It uses the false promise of easy winnings to suck money from those unfortunate people who can least afford to lose it. The jobs that a casino creates do not offset the devastation it brings upon a community.

[TommyT]

Herman wrote:

Too bad. I hope it fails. A casino is a losing proposition for any community. It uses the false promise of easy winnings to suck money from those unfortunate people who can least afford to lose it. The jobs that a casino creates do not offset the devastation it brings upon a community.

You sound like the same type of person who claimed that a horse track in muskegon would ruin us with drugs, prostitution, organized crime and make more people homeless and broke. Your comment on casinos being a losing proposition for communities WHAT A JOKE,
tell that to Vegas.

[RLB]

There are some people who are irresponsible when it comes to gambling. But I think for the most part, people view it as a form of entertainment. Not everyone is blowing the rent money when they go to a casino. A casino/waterpark/shopping center would create a lot of jobs that Muskegon desparately needs. And if there were a casino, more restaurants, hotels, and shopping centers would follow to the area. It is time for people to get off the moral high horse and look at the greater good here. Why aren't these people trying to close bars too? There are people who sometimes drink too much when they go to one. We have to stop trying to legislate morality. If you don't like casinos - don't go to one. But there are plenty of unemployed people in Muskegon county who would be thrilled to accept a job at one!

[neecer]

Herman wrote:

Too bad. I hope it fails. A casino is a losing proposition for any community. It uses the false promise of easy winnings to suck money from those unfortunate people who can least afford to lose it. The jobs that a casino creates do not offset the devastation it brings upon a community.

You obviously haven't been to any of the communities where there is a casino. Why don't you get off your high horse and see exactly what the tribal casino's have done for areas like Mt. Pleasant and Manistee? Then talk about the devastation it brings to the communities.

[Works in Muskegon]

Herman wrote:

Too bad. I hope it fails. A casino is a losing proposition for any community. It uses the false promise of easy winnings to suck money from those unfortunate people who can least afford to lose it. The jobs that a casino creates do not offset the devastation it brings upon a community.

Yeah...bringing in money and boosting toursim is going to be a bad situation for a failing economy

/sarcasim

[TommyT]

This outta give that nutjob Rev. William Randall something to gallop around with on his high horse, I have read so many of his letters stating the gloom and doom of the horse track, why is he not man enough to admit he was wrong. I had the misfortune of attending Cloverville Bible church on Black Creek/Heights Ravenna road when I was a child. This mans moral stupidity continues to defy logic 20 plus years later.

[Jamie]

TommyT wrote:

<quoted text> You sound like the same type of person who claimed that a horse track in muskegon would ruin us with drugs, prostitution, organized crime and make more people homeless and broke. Your comment on casinos being a losing proposition for communities WHAT A JOKE,
tell that to Vegas.

whats happening to the horse track in Muskegon now, closing down last I heard that should do wonders for employment! besides today I get this letter in the mail for a "walk benefit" for people who can not pay for their electric which I like the idea, but it will be the same people who end up at the casino "Pis sing" their money away.

[Life in Michigan]

Jamie wrote:

<quoted text>whats happening to the horse track in Muskegon now, closing down last I heard that should do wonders for employment! besides today I get this letter in the mail for a "walk benefit" for people who can not pay for their electric which I like the idea, but it will be the same people who end up at the casino "Pis sing" their money away.

The racetrack will be closing for good November 6th.

[Warren Wallace]

Muskegon, I have always liked area and thought it deserved better economy over the years. It has such cool natural recreation area's, the lake is attractive. It needs a shot today. The support business that follow will make it a destination. Condos will be built bringing more people in and start other businesses. Casino's are nothing but an amusement park ride. I tend to go in with a limit and stop. But if I go to a go-cart track, I keep spending! I love those things. Do I need help? What State Agency will help me stop riding go-carts! "It's about me putting him into the wall" "100 miles away ready to strike"

[TommyT]

Jamie wrote:

<quoted text>whats happening to the horse track in Muskegon now, closing down last I heard that should do wonders for employment! besides today I get this letter in the mail for a "walk benefit" for people who can not pay for their electric which I like the idea, but it will be the same people who end up at the casino "Pis sing" their money away.

Lets see, the racetrack was open for like 15 years providing wages and tax revenue. It's closing now, SO WHAT! name one bad thing that has happened as a direct result of the racetrack. Yeah, thats what I thought.

[parent]

There going to gamble in muskegon,just like vegas,Mt Pleasant, turtle creek,so why not bring some jobs there,maybe get some people jobs and a start in life again with jobs they havent got now, There going to gamble some wheres it doesnt matter where they do it,there not getting my money ,but im all for jobs not welfare

[EVA]

this is a great ideai because it will open alot of jobs for everybody i hope they will let them build the casino!

[MGB1963]

RLB wrote:

There are some people who are irresponsible when it comes to gambling. But I think for the most part, people view it as a form of entertainment. Not everyone is blowing the rent money when they go to a casino. A casino/waterpark/shopping center would create a lot of jobs that Muskegon desparately needs. And if there were a casino, more restaurants, hotels, and shopping centers would follow to the area. It is time for people to get off the moral high horse and look at the greater good here. Why aren't these people trying to close bars too? There are people who sometimes drink too much when they go to one. We have to stop trying to legislate morality. If you don't like casinos - don't go to one. But there are plenty of unemployed people in Muskegon county who would be thrilled to accept a job at one!

I also don't hear them trying to shut down the stat lottery tha is supposedly giving so much money to our schools.

In my opinion, anything in excess is bad.....evn religion - look the the Jim Jones of the world.

[Friend of Muskegon]

It's too bad that people are not responsible when it comes to gambling. However, why let them travel to other communities when the money can be spent in Muskegon. Bringing a casino to Muskegon isn't going to harm people. It's up to individuals to learn how to handle their own money.
The City of Muskegon is in desparate need of businesses that will create jobs and revenue. Our shopping districts are primarily located in Fruitport. Why not make our downtown area an entertainment district? Summer Celebration currently brings in many people from other communities. However, once they are here, they don't have much else to do. Why not give them other sources of entertainment? All too often people think that the goal of a casino is to take money from the people that live in the community. We want to bring in revenue from people who do not live in Muskegon. Build hotels so that visitors have places to stay and give them reasons to come at other times of the year besides Summer Celebration. Michigan's economy as a whole will improve if we focus on tourism. We have a gold mine of natural resources that other states do not have. Let's give them reasons to come.

[RLB]

Friend of Muskegon wrote:

It's too bad that people are not responsible when it comes to gambling. However, why let them travel to other communities when the money can be spent in Muskegon. Bringing a casino to Muskegon isn't going to harm people. It's up to individuals to learn how to handle their own money.
The City of Muskegon is in desparate need of businesses that will create jobs and revenue. Our shopping districts are primarily located in Fruitport. Why not make our downtown area an entertainment district? Summer Celebration currently brings in many people from other communities. However, once they are here, they don't have much else to do. Why not give them other sources of entertainment? All too often people think that the goal of a casino is to take money from the people that live in the community. We want to bring in revenue from people who do not live in Muskegon. Build hotels so that visitors have places to stay and give them reasons to come at other times of the year besides Summer Celebration. Michigan's economy as a whole will improve if we focus on tourism. We have a gold mine of natural resources that other states do not have. Let's give them reasons to come.

Well said. If Muskegon had a casino it would only attract people to the lakeshore and to the state parks and other attractions in the area. We need this!

[Jamie]

TommyT wrote:

<quoted text> Lets see, the racetrack was open for like 15 years providing wages and tax revenue. It's closing now, SO WHAT! name one bad thing that has happened as a direct result of the racetrack. Yeah, thats what I thought.

WOW, take your meds would you! you mean other than the lost revenue? jobs,taxes ect. apparently when times got tough the track could not sustain itself what do you think Tommy? is that the kind of business that we need all over Muskegon? finally someone got smart and brought in Bike week an event that will benefit all sorts of local business and somthing a range of people can enjoy.

[Kurtis S]

Herman wrote:

Too bad. I hope it fails. A casino is a losing proposition for any community. It uses the false promise of easy winnings to suck money from those unfortunate people who can least afford to lose it. The jobs that a casino creates do not offset the devastation it brings upon a community.

You just want it to fail so they might look at your overrated city and maybe build a casino there. this will do nothing but good to our community.