Great Lakes Downs to Close

Great lakes downs will shut its doors for good on November 6th. The Fruitport Township track right off I-96 has been fighting to keep it's doors open for a while. Full Story
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Herman

Syracuse, NY

#1 Oct 23, 2007
No big loss. The primary purpose of the track was to promote gambling and that is not a positive activity for any community.
F-B Manager

Muskegon, MI

#2 Oct 23, 2007
It doesn't matter how you feel about gambling, the fact is a lot of people including myself are going to be out of a job in a struggling Michigan economy. So the fact that you say "no big loss" offends me because my family and I are going to be struggling to make it. Whether you like it or not people have a right to chose how to spend their money and gambling will never go away.

“Go Red Wings!!!”

Since: Oct 07

Plainfield Township MI

#3 Oct 23, 2007
F-B Manager wrote:
It doesn't matter how you feel about gambling, the fact is a lot of people including myself are going to be out of a job in a struggling Michigan economy. So the fact that you say "no big loss" offends me because my family and I are going to be struggling to make it. Whether you like it or not people have a right to chose how to spend their money and gambling will never go away.
My heart goes out to you for losing your job. I've been unemployed for awhile now, and I understand what you are going through. It is amazing how unfeeling people can be when it is not their job that is being affected. I never went to Great Lakes Downs, but it was a legal business and had every right to be there. Good luck to you and your family!
bob

Chesterfield, MO

#4 Oct 24, 2007
Herman wrote:
No big loss. The primary purpose of the track was to promote gambling and that is not a positive activity for any community.
Tell places Like Mt. pleasant And Traverse city that. The casinos there have pumpped Big money back into those Communities.
KCL

Rockford, MI

#5 Oct 24, 2007
People will gamble. If your religion opposes it, don't participate. Bring on the jobs. Stop the service tax, increase the sales tax if necessary - but apply it across the board - not to pick and choose certain services who are generally the small business who haven no lobbyists in lansing or D.C. Get governmnet OUT of our lives and jobs and faces. tea party anyone? I know how to make compost tea, maybe that would wake up politicians! As far as I know, I could make compost tea and dump it in the creek and over-nutrient the waterways - maybe that would given the politicians something more to worry about than their stupid little isses.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#6 Oct 24, 2007
bob wrote:
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Tell places Like Mt. pleasant And Traverse city that. The casinos there have pumpped Big money back into those Communities.
don't forget to add Manistee to that list! I remember that being a little POS town that really wasn't worth going to. Now it's a booming community! Little River Band of Ottawa has plugged a lot of money back into that town!

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#7 Oct 24, 2007
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....****'d is t.own!
Doc

Muskegon, MI

#8 Oct 24, 2007
Herman wrote:
No big loss. The primary purpose of the track was to promote gambling and that is not a positive activity for any community.
I also work at Great Lakes Downs. We are one big family at "The Track", and I am among those individuals whom will lose their job. GLD's main purpose was not to promote gambling, but rather Horsemenship. Sure I get a pay check and pay taxes just like everyone else. But better yet, I now have a nationwide network of people I can call on. Not to mention all the wonderful souls that work at GLD. It's the relationships that will be severed that I've built with the employee's and patrons that will devastate me the most. I too have a family to take care of and do not yet know what lies ahead for me. I am deeply saddened by this loss. I love my job at GLD, and will miss it dearly. Not many people can say that they love their jobs. But I do, truly love my job. Herman you are wrong to say that this is "no big loss". Now you will be supporting me and my family.
OneBigFan

United States

#9 Oct 30, 2007
As a patron of Great Lakes Downs since it's opening, I will miss all of those whom I have come to know. I know many of the employees, horsemen and their families.

Herman in "Grand Haven"...you are completely wrong in your comments. Wouldn't it be such a bummer if you got a pink slip? If I was a fellow employee of yours, and found out you were losing your job...I guess I'd say "No big loss". You Herman, are a complete a**
OneBigFan

United States

#10 Oct 30, 2007
Doc wrote:
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I also work at Great Lakes Downs. We are one big family at "The Track", and I am among those individuals whom will lose their job. GLD's main purpose was not to promote gambling, but rather Horsemenship. Sure I get a pay check and pay taxes just like everyone else. But better yet, I now have a nationwide network of people I can call on. Not to mention all the wonderful souls that work at GLD. It's the relationships that will be severed that I've built with the employee's and patrons that will devastate me the most. I too have a family to take care of and do not yet know what lies ahead for me. I am deeply saddened by this loss. I love my job at GLD, and will miss it dearly. Not many people can say that they love their jobs. But I do, truly love my job. Herman you are wrong to say that this is "no big loss". Now you will be supporting me and my family.
Right on, Doc !
PJ Holland MI

United States

#11 Oct 30, 2007
I have been a patron of GLD, ever since the doors were opened years ago. The thing I will miss the most, is all of the wonderful friends I've made through the years...be they horsemen and women, employees, or their families.
Herman of "Grand Haven", you couldn't be any more of an a**. If I was a co-worker of yours, and found out you were getting a pink slip, I guess my response would have to be "No big loss".
Herman, the next time you meet a local farmer who grew hay for the horses at GLD, all of those who literally slaved away behind the scenes, the hotel manager across the street that will see business drop, don't forget to tell them who you are as well...you MORON !
Unfortunately, unless it's Jennifer Granholm's precious lottery, or another B.S. Indian casino opening somewhere, any expansion of gaming at GLD was doomed.
Thank God, now I can pay higher income taxes to send to the deadbeats of Flint and Detroit.
MD Of PA

Southampton, PA

#12 Oct 31, 2007
I worked at Ladbroke DRC in Livonia from 1976 till the end of the meet in 1998. The city of Livonia thought getting rid of the "criminals" behind the fence would be good for their city and harassed the stable employees every chance they could. When Ladbroke had the option of OTB pending in a legislative bill, they refused saying it was only a "bandaid" on a hemmoraging wound. They said they needed slots or "nothing". But, the real criminals were not Ladbrokes. The real criminal was John Engler who steadfastly refused leveling the playing field for racing by allowing some sort of electronic gaming at the tracks. Criminal, because in spite of his "moral" rhetoric against the expansion of gaming, there are now three full fledged casinos across the river from the Windsor casinos. Ladbrokes' decision was purely business, Englers' was purely greed. The casino lobby promised X% of the revenue from all their slot machines, on the condition the state would not allow the tracks the opportunity to compete, via slot machines. Now the windfall from the casinos is obviously not enough for the liberal spending politicians with their pork projects to protect their personal revenue stream. It would behoove the voters to oust every single parasite in office there. I can't see any logic in the decision of the State of Michigan, to NOT pick up the reins, and form a sort of quasi governmental agency to run the track. The NJSEA in Jersy is a good example of how well things could be run if the state government had an actual interest in the success of the business. There is so much more to say about the failure of racing in Michigan, it would take reams of space to type. And my carpal tunnel is acting up lately. Good luck and God Bless all you race trackers and employees in the Muskegon area. I wish you well.
rich

AOL

#13 Nov 6, 2007
i just moved to spring lake and looked forward to going to gld on sat nite what a shame its a nice place
rob reynolds

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 3, 2008
gld was a nice little track and part of our vacation plans every year when we came up to muskegon to visit family. now maybe we'll go somewhere else.
Ann

Whitehall, MI

#15 Oct 5, 2008
I laugh watching all these people getting upset over a worthless horse track closing. Let the glue factory nags run elsewhere. Its just a sign that Muskegon can't support another business. So,to add insult to injury they opt to let the feathered turn it into a casino in a place where there is already enough financial hardship...B R I L L I A N T !!
saddened

Rootstown, OH

#16 Mar 11, 2009
Ann, grow up. Any horse I've ever worked with was not a glue factory nag and casinos and racetracks create jobs that keep people off of welfare-if you want to support me & my family with your tax dollars bc I can no longer work at the track, that's cool with me! I would rather work, but people like you would just rather take care of me.
Anns husbands friend

United States

#17 May 27, 2009
Ann wrote:
I laugh watching all these people getting upset over a worthless horse track closing. Let the glue factory nags run elsewhere. Its just a sign that Muskegon can't support another business. So,to add insult to injury they opt to let the feathered turn it into a casino in a place where there is already enough financial hardship...B R I L L I A N T !!
Ann , You cant please your husband so he goes and finds other women more interesting woman to take of him behind your back.
pjdutchville

United States

#18 May 29, 2009
MD Of PA wrote:
I worked at Ladbroke DRC in Livonia from 1976 till the end of the meet in 1998. The city of Livonia thought getting rid of the "criminals" behind the fence would be good for their city and harassed the stable employees every chance they could. When Ladbroke had the option of OTB pending in a legislative bill, they refused saying it was only a "bandaid" on a hemmoraging wound. They said they needed slots or "nothing". But, the real criminals were not Ladbrokes. The real criminal was John Engler who steadfastly refused leveling the playing field for racing by allowing some sort of electronic gaming at the tracks. Criminal, because in spite of his "moral" rhetoric against the expansion of gaming, there are now three full fledged casinos across the river from the Windsor casinos. Ladbrokes' decision was purely business, Englers' was purely greed. The casino lobby promised X% of the revenue from all their slot machines, on the condition the state would not allow the tracks the opportunity to compete, via slot machines. Now the windfall from the casinos is obviously not enough for the liberal spending politicians with their pork projects to protect their personal revenue stream. It would behoove the voters to oust every single parasite in office there. I can't see any logic in the decision of the State of Michigan, to NOT pick up the reins, and form a sort of quasi governmental agency to run the track. The NJSEA in Jersy is a good example of how well things could be run if the state government had an actual interest in the success of the business. There is so much more to say about the failure of racing in Michigan, it would take reams of space to type. And my carpal tunnel is acting up lately. Good luck and God Bless all you race trackers and employees in the Muskegon area. I wish you well.
Has anyone heard what has become of any of the former employees? I am trying in vain to contact "Cammy",(tall, thin, and blonde) who sold the track programs. All I know is that her last name is Moon, and her husband's name is Ron who worked at Brunswick. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
pjdutchville

United States

#19 May 29, 2009
The above "Cammy" worked at GLD, not Ladbroke. Sorry.
Billy Macs daughter

Warren, MI

#21 Aug 25, 2009
I grew up around the race track since I was a little girl. My parents lived in Westland, Michigan..my mom worked on the backside and my dad worked at Ladbroke also as a jockeys valet. When the racetrack closed down and we were devastated. My dad moved to Muskegon when the new track opened and my mother and I followed a year later. My mom became a partial owner of Breakaway Quietly and my dad was a clocker and jockeys valet. He ran the whole jockeys room! I loved going to the barn and seeing the horses and all the wonderful people..My father passed away in 2005 after spending his whole life working at the track. GLD had a memorial for him and it was wonderful..even a race dedicated to him. Some of his ashes were put on the track by close friends, family, and jockeys. Great Lakes Downs wasn't just about "gambling", horse racing is not just "gambling"..it's a lifestyle..it's a family..it's life for many people. Not JUST a job. And for somebody to call it worthless..is wrong. Go ahead and laugh..because when you lose your job..I will laugh. I loved that track, I love the people there..I miss it. Muskegon is not the same for me now. I can't even drive by it anymore seeing it being torn down. And Ann..I just want to slap you in the face. Thanks.

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