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Third Girl Testifies Friend's Father Molested Her

There are 21 comments on the KNBC Los Angeles story from Mar 27, 2008, titled Third Girl Testifies Friend's Father Molested Her. In it, KNBC Los Angeles reports that:

A man accused of molesting two underage sisters inappropriately touched a third girl during a pool party at his home, an 11-year-old girl testified Thursday.

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So sad

Sun City, CA

#1 Apr 10, 2008
To put these girls through this pain when this freak of nature already confessed to the elders!!!
StrawberrySmiles

Pasadena, CA

#2 Apr 10, 2008
2 questions
1 comment

1) How does recurring yeast infections imply molestation?
2) Why would the mother tell the Church Elders and a teacher at school and not call the Police herself?

Were this my child, I'd be loading my shotgun!

If this guy is in fact guilty of these charges, I hope he 'fries'.
Lisa

AOL

#3 Apr 10, 2008
These girls never got closure because these elders tried to cover this up. Good for the teacher who went to the Police. This 45 year old man committed a crime>>you can't confess and not be held accountable. JW's dont have confession; the only reason this person confessed is because he was caught.
Boman

Dudley, UK

#4 Apr 11, 2008
As far as I am aware, after reading other jounnalist reports, it was the defence lawyer of the accused who was endeavoring to silence the elders and cover up this matter by appealing to the law concerning penitent-clergy prviledge as used by catholics. This law I believe should be abolished since not only does it put those in positions of religeous oversight in an awkward if not down right unlawful position, worse still, it works against the interests of the victim.
Please see for further info http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE...

“Watchtower Whistle-Blower”

Since: Dec 06

Bangor Maine USA

#5 Apr 11, 2008
The Jehovah's Witnesses have settled lawsuits alleging church policies protected pedophile men who sexually abused children for many years.
JW Frederick McLean is one of the most-wanted fugitives in the United States
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917798/
FELIX SIMENTAL

United States

#6 Apr 13, 2008
MY NAME IS FELIX SIMENTAL AND I AM GILBERT SIMENTALS BROTHER.
I AM VERY DISCUSSTED WITH HIM AND MY OTHER JEHOVAHS WITNESS
BROTHERS AND THERE WIVES WHO LIVE HERE IN VISTA. GEORGE SIMENTAL/WIFE KATHLEEN,DAVID SIMENTAL/WIFE SONJA,BENNY SIMENTAL
/WIFE DIANE ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS INCIDENT AND INFORMED MY SISTER ANNIE ON MARCH 29,2008. THAT EVENING HER HUSBAND CAME BY MY HOUSE AND TOLD ME AND MY WIFE. NOT ONCE HAS ANY ONE OF THOSE JEHOVAH WITNESSES/FAMILY COME FOWARD TO TELL US ABOUT IT.
CleanUpMedia

New Town, ND

#7 Apr 13, 2008
some of the most insidious perverts are religious perverts.
justice

Portland, OR

#8 May 2, 2008
I hope this sikko gets a huge dose of his own medicine in the pin!Whats the status on this anyway?
Master Mind

Lake Charles, LA

#9 Oct 2, 2008
The guy has to get a clue. When a child protest you have to stop. This is a clear case of him going over board. He cant control his emotion's. I have my kids friends come over all the time and we have a few rules to prevent this. We like to hug, cuddle, and kiss our kids and we treat there friends the same way. We do let the parents know so they can tell us if it bothers them. I have yet had a problem. There is a line that parents need to fallow and that's respecting what they need. We do not treat boy's any different than girls. They both like hug's, cuddling, and kisses. I do give back massages but when any one tell's me to stop not only do I not make a big thing out of this but I also talk with there parents. But touching a child's that does not wish to be touched is just rude. I don't know if I would send this guy to jail for 45 years to life. This never fixes this. So you get one that crossed the line. Its over kill and not productive for anyone. The time you put his guy in jail another 1,000 are not caught and treated. This guy needs treatment not Jail time. We are so over protective of our kids that when they make a mistake we punish the older person and not both of them. By the way recurring yeast infections happen when girls from age 5~12 are exploring and find it pleasing to massage in that area. Granted He may have crossed a line but on the other hand parents need to start at age 5 telling them about this area that makes them feel good when they massage there. I think she started exploring and wanted to try explore a little at a time as all girls do but he may not have wanted to stop when told to. Jail bad idea. I would recommend teaching him the right way to play with kids. He needs to be educated not jailed. Kids need there parents to teach them about sex at 5 not at age 18 when they have learned all the wrong ways from there friends.

“It is what it is !!!!!”

Since: Sep 08

El Monte Ca

#10 Oct 2, 2008
For some reason I think you are sick.
Master Mind wrote:
The guy has to get a clue. When a child protest you have to stop. This is a clear case of him going over board. He cant control his emotion's. I have my kids friends come over all the time and we have a few rules to prevent this. We like to hug, cuddle, and kiss our kids and we treat there friends the same way. We do let the parents know so they can tell us if it bothers them. I have yet had a problem. There is a line that parents need to fallow and that's respecting what they need. We do not treat boy's any different than girls. They both like hug's, cuddling, and kisses. I do give back massages but when any one tell's me to stop not only do I not make a big thing out of this but I also talk with there parents. But touching a child's that does not wish to be touched is just rude. I don't know if I would send this guy to jail for 45 years to life. This never fixes this. So you get one that crossed the line. Its over kill and not productive for anyone. The time you put his guy in jail another 1,000 are not caught and treated. This guy needs treatment not Jail time. We are so over protective of our kids that when they make a mistake we punish the older person and not both of them. By the way recurring yeast infections happen when girls from age 5~12 are exploring and find it pleasing to massage in that area. Granted He may have crossed a line but on the other hand parents need to start at age 5 telling them about this area that makes them feel good when they massage there. I think she started exploring and wanted to try explore a little at a time as all girls do but he may not have wanted to stop when told to. Jail bad idea. I would recommend teaching him the right way to play with kids. He needs to be educated not jailed. Kids need there parents to teach them about sex at 5 not at age 18 when they have learned all the wrong ways from there friends.
Master Mind

Lake Charles, LA

#11 Oct 2, 2008
pedophile are after sex with kids but I think people keep forgetting kids from age 5~12 explore there good feelings even if they don't know its regarded as sexual. The other problem is When kids show there wanting to explore they are shunned for this witch confuses them later on. I don't think he should go to jail but I think the parents should have done a better job informing there child that at times hard to know if they are telling you everything or just enough so they don't get in trouble. Unless he put his member in her I would say sending him to jail is confusing the girl. Next thing you know she does this again when she is old enough to have sex because of this over reaction. I think people forget there kids are sexual beings and may have contributed to the situation. I say give him 5 years of correctional training. Its not like he killed the girl after all. Some times I think these laws were made by an extreme radical. a person kills some one by with out intent gets out in 5 years. Some one plays with some one that said no 45 years to life. Give me a brake. She will one day have a wet dream about this and get turned on by it. Grow up people. Kids are smarter than you think. Example. Your kid can run your computer better than you can. I think she knew more than what she is saying. 94% girls at age 5 and up fantasies about something like this happening. 93% girls at age 20~30 wish they could do it over and explore with out being scared. Just something I found on a medical report for 2007
CHCG

United States

#12 Oct 2, 2008
Wonderful Day wrote:
For some reason I think you are sick.<quoted text>
I would agree with you. This is a pedophile and he doesn't even know it. Scary. His poor kids.
Master Mind

Lake Charles, LA

#13 Oct 2, 2008
Ha she said inappropriately touched in the deep area of the pool. I have no idea how deep but
when it comes to holding some one that is a good location to support kids at that age. I have seen parents do that all the time you don't see them in jail now do you. Getting to tires of pleasing everyone I guess they have that choice. Then transfer to his back or front for faster swimming. She did say she cant swim after all and he may not have been thinking of the location at the time just the best way to get from a to b. Never done this myself but I can see both sides. When your in the pool there is a lot of things that is going on that to some is inappropriate. The cloths, holding positions. Was he massaging the girl. No.
I have had kids on my back giving them piggy back. This then should be viewed as inappropriate as there sitting on me. Unless his member was in these kids the fact that his hand was around there it's the same as picking them up or giving them a push off when climbing a tree. Get use to it folks some one at some time will put there hand on your kids bottom and try to help them up the tree. Freak out or don't but it takes two to this and I know at that age she may had some influence on the actions taken.

No not sick just a realist. girls asks about stuff like this all the time and parents dance around it. If you don't inform your kids they will be a statistic. She is going to explore on her own no mater what. That is just how we as humans are. You tell us no don't do that. We will do that and more. again inform your kids sooner or they will become a statistic.
Master Mind

Lake Charles, LA

#14 Oct 2, 2008
Pedophile are after sex. He may be one but this info is not enough to say. It's a one sided view that prevents a detail view. Besides I would rather not judge with second hand info.

No CHCG not a Pedophile I just don't lye to my kids. Why you think daughters start to hate there parents at age 12~18. The day they have that look at you like your messed up there life. They find out from a older girl friend and when they ask to have a sleep over at some ones house from age 12~18 its mostly no. Why is this simple. Parents know she may want to explore. Don't lye man My friends daughter is the same age and that's what he's doing. But she come be hear. I don't cross that line your talking about. Just a little more understanding about human behavior than you. Like 96% of girls has fantasized about being with an older man before there age 14. This is fact. Hard to say if this topic fits what I am saying but keep in mind he may have done all these things. The girls may be telling the truth but the fact is if the parents did there job by informing there kids about sex she would not be thinking it felt strangely she would be able to say it was inappropriately. Silly. I give kids back massages is that touching them strange. I massage there neck,feet, and head is that strange. the kids parents don't think so and yea parents are watching. Usually there next lol. again there is a line they say its ok to be then its ok. I don't think there parents had any line witch makes anything open. Not the best idea but it works in France lol.
CHCG

United States

#15 Oct 2, 2008
Master Mind wrote:
Ha she said inappropriately touched in the deep area of the pool. I have no idea how deep but
when it comes to holding some one that is a good location to support kids at that age. I have seen parents do that all the time you don't see them in jail now do you. Getting to tires of pleasing everyone I guess they have that choice. Then transfer to his back or front for faster swimming. She did say she cant swim after all and he may not have been thinking of the location at the time just the best way to get from a to b. Never done this myself but I can see both sides. When your in the pool there is a lot of things that is going on that to some is inappropriate. The cloths, holding positions. Was he massaging the girl. No.
I have had kids on my back giving them piggy back. This then should be viewed as inappropriate as there sitting on me. Unless his member was in these kids the fact that his hand was around there it's the same as picking them up or giving them a push off when climbing a tree. Get use to it folks some one at some time will put there hand on your kids bottom and try to help them up the tree. Freak out or don't but it takes two to this and I know at that age she may had some influence on the actions taken.
No not sick just a realist. girls asks about stuff like this all the time and parents dance around it. If you don't inform your kids they will be a statistic. She is going to explore on her own no mater what. That is just how we as humans are. You tell us no don't do that. We will do that and more. again inform your kids sooner or they will become a statistic.
I think you are the "one too many" branch on the inbred tree. It's warped your mind on soooooo many levels.

Since: May 08

Lawrenceville, GA

#16 Oct 2, 2008
oh my gawd this entire thread is sick. any physical attention other than the occasional greeting/good bye hug is just not necessary with kids that aren't your own. a 'high five' or a pat on the back is fine. a little peck on the cheek of a niece/nephew is ok...but come ON! Haven't ya'll heard of PDA and that it's not appropriate ALL OF THE TIME.

I hope this guy that is in jail ROTS there, and Master Mind, ya'll need some serious counseling.
CHCG

United States

#17 Oct 3, 2008
Curious and Curious-er wrote:
oh my gawd this entire thread is sick. any physical attention other than the occasional greeting/good bye hug is just not necessary with kids that aren't your own. a 'high five' or a pat on the back is fine. a little peck on the cheek of a niece/nephew is ok...but come ON! Haven't ya'll heard of PDA and that it's not appropriate ALL OF THE TIME.
I hope this guy that is in jail ROTS there, and Master Mind, ya'll need some serious counseling.
You know, at first I just thought he was trying to yank everybodies chain, but there are some seriously disturbing things that he says that make me believe he really feels what he is saying is okay..... I pray for any children (including his own) that may come in contact with him.... He's a SICKO!!!!!!!!
mountain view ca

Colorado Springs, CO

#18 Feb 17, 2009
So sad wrote:
To put these girls through this pain when this freak of nature already confessed to the elders!!!
Mountain view,ca is sure getting a kick out of this. Who's the
poota now.
Sick

Cerritos, CA

#19 Apr 7, 2009
Master Mind seems like a Master sicko!! Keep up your sick acts hopefully one of those kids parents wake up and see your grooming their children for you next move! Thank God children are being teached at school the diffrence between a good and a bad touch and they in turn are actually telling their teachers about people like you.

By the way this creep pled guilty to the third victim. He is now just where he belongs for the rest of his life PRISON! I wonder if he has protection in there? if not he's going to have a very intresting 45 years.. if he lives that long.

This molester is 50 years old... I'm guessing many more victims are out there who were to scared to say anything.

“C N dworld from both sides now”

Since: Apr 08

Army Brat

#20 Apr 14, 2009
A Master Mind with no linguistic skills - rightyo!

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