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Big Sandy, TX

#22 Dec 22, 2012
SpiritoftheHawk wrote:
I do want the pro-gay marriage people to stop blaming Christians for marriage is man woman ...
Alexander the Great, notoriously gay, had gay lover for over a dozen years.
He was part of Greek culture, the most openly accepting culture of homosexuality.
But he had a female wife.
That was around 300 BC, so stop blaming the Christians for the cultural adherence to man-woman definition of marriage.
You know nothing of Alexander the Great.

Since: Jan 11

Murray, KY

#23 Dec 22, 2012
this is right wrote:
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You're implying that I should either kill myself or inflict significant bodily harm by simply making a point?
I don't understand your hate. If we're allowing gay marriage, shouldn't we not descriminate against polygamist or those who want to sleep with their sisters?
I also think we should allow people to marry dog and giraffes.
If all involved are consenting adults, then knock yourself out.

I just think the world would be a better place if you put on a blindfold and try to drive 100 mph.

Since: Aug 11

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#25 Dec 22, 2012
A T G wrote:
<quoted text>You know nothing of Alexander the Great.

Then you apparently know LESS THAN NOTHING.

"Paul Cartledge is Professor of Greek History in the University of Cambridge, and Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge. The following is from an article he wrote just before publication of his book, Alexander the Great: The Hunt for a New Past (2004).

Aristotle is said to have advised Alexander to treat all non Greeks as slavish 'barbarians', advice which Alexander--to his credit--conspicuously did not follow. Indeed, he married, polygamously, three 'barbarians'--the daughter of a Sogdian warlord and two Persian royal women--and encouraged his closest companions to take foreign wives too. No doubt, as with Philip's marriages, these were predominantly motivated by realpolitik. It is notable that, unlike his father, Alexander married no Macedonian nor Greek woman. Moreover his marriages were designed to further a policy of orientalisation, the playing down of an exclusive Hellenism and the promotion of Graeco-oriental political and cultural mix.

The question of Alexander's sexuality--his predominant sexual orientation--has enlivened, or bedevilled, much Alexander scholarship. That he loved at least two men there can be little doubt. The first was the Macedonian noble Hephaestion, a friend from boyhood, whom he looked on--and may actually have referred to--as his alter ego. The Persian queen mother, it was said, once mistook the taller Hephaestion for Alexander, who graciously excused her blushes by murmuring that 'he too is Alexander'. Whether Alexander's relationship with the slightly older Hephaestion was ever of the sort that once dared not speak its name is not certain, but it is likely enough that it was. At any rate, Macedonian and Greek mores would have favoured an actively sexual component rather than inhibiting or censoring it. Like hunting, homosexuality was thought to foster masculine, especially martial, bravery.

The other non-female beloved of Alexander's was named Bagoas. He was not just a 'barbarian'(Persian) but also a eunuch. There was a long Middle Eastern tradition of employing eunuchs as court officials, especially where a harem system was in place, as at the Achaemenid royal court (witness the Biblical book of Esther). Bagoas was not the first Persian court eunuch, either, to act as a power-broker between rival individuals and factions. A homonymous predecessor had done his murderous worst through the arts of poison, paving the way for Darius III's immediate predecessor to assume the Persian throne. The methods of Alexander's Bagoas were no less effective, if less violent, and Alexander's personal commitment to him seems to have attained levels of sexual intimacy that his Greek and Macedonian courtiers found embarrassing.
Bitc hy

Killen, AL

#26 Dec 22, 2012
Route 45 wrote:
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If all involved are consenting adults, then knock yourself out.
I just think the world would be a better place if you put on a blindfold and try to drive 100 mph.
The irony here is so funny. You progressives b!tch about tolerance yet you want people to die who don't agree with you.
Bitc hy

Killen, AL

#27 Dec 23, 2012

Funny when a good point is made this place goes silent.

Mayfield, KY

#28 Dec 23, 2012
Bitc hy you made a great point. THey talk about christian intolerance and right wing hate....
seems to me they need to eat their own words, for many of them are the most hate filled intolerant people on earth.

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