booooooooo

Murray, KY

#704 Mar 28, 2012
news wrote:
<quoted text>
all he is doing is doing a damn good job at borrowing money and spending it. I know a lot of people that could borrow money and spend foolishly and run several companies into the loss category. tell me something hes doing well?
tell me something you are doing well.
booooooooo

Murray, KY

#705 Mar 28, 2012
we know things that you guys don't. you all really look stupid talking about it like it is your money or your companies or anything to do with you at all. it is over and that is why you all look stupid. let's talk about that.hehe
question

United States

#706 Mar 29, 2012
booooooooo wrote:
we know things that you guys don't. you all really look stupid talking about it like it is your money or your companies or anything to do with you at all. it is over and that is why you all look stupid. let's talk about that.hehe
Public forum, public figure, and a man who employs at least 6 people i know and has fired 2 people i know and is supposedly responsible for one very good man i know losing his occupation. He is a very public figure that interests and affects all in Murray. So i can talk all i want to as long as i am not slandering his name or talking about his personal life i believe hes fair game.
question

United States

#707 Mar 29, 2012
and no i don't believe it will be over before his 90 days is up :. booo show me some proof the man actually made some money he could buy out griffin with, all i saw was losses in the court documents by wexler and others. Or if hes found a new investment partner let the public know. Protect his good name with some facts.
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United States

#708 Mar 29, 2012
57.The Joneses and Management did not limit their self-dealing misappropriation of funds strictly to cash payments. They also used the Companies to create a philanthropic image in the Murray community. Management caused CBR to donate significant sums to local charities in 2010, including $203,000 to First United Methodist Church.(Exh. 15 to Wexler Aff.). Management also committed CBR to donate over $485,000 to various charities and civic organizations in 2011.(Exh. 16 to Wexler Aff. at p. 000153). Those charitable donations included:$150,000 to the local Murray schools, part of which appears to have been used to build the “Chuck and Sarah Jones Tennis and Track Complex” at Murray High School; $20,000 to the Murray Youth Baseball Softball Association; $40,000 to the United Way; $30,000 to the First United Methodist Church; $10,000 to the Amazon Mission Organization; $10,000 to local youth centers; and $10,000 to the Calloway County Skate Park.(Exh. 17 to Wexler Aff.). At one point, when a Management employee questioned whether a specific donation should come from CBR’s funds instead of being paid by the Joneses, C. Jones directed the payment to be made from CBR’s account.(Exh. 18 to Wexler Aff.). Management’s own Chief Financial Officer questioned whether CBR had sufficient funds to cover a $50,000 check to a local school in August 2011.(7)(Exh. 19 to Wexler Aff.). Management, C. Jones and S. Jones did not inform Griffin any payments or donations by the Companies.(Griffin Aff. at ¶¶ 16, 17).
new

Murray, KY

#709 Mar 29, 2012
anything new on this post?
BOOOOOO

Murray, KY

#710 Mar 29, 2012
booooooooo wrote:
we know things that you guys don't. you all really look stupid talking about it like it is your money or your companies or anything to do with you at all. it is over and that is why you all look stupid. let's talk about that.hehe
SAY SOMETHING SMART, QUOTE SOME QUOTES, SAY SOME FACTS AND STOP LOOKING STUPID YOURSELF. PROVE ITS OVER
Vida Gifford

Osaka, Japan

#711 Mar 29, 2012
From the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002:

Sec. 1348. Securities fraud

Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, a scheme or artifice--

(1) to defraud any person in connection with any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d)); or

(2) to obtain, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, any money or property in connection with the purchase or sale of any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d))

shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.'.
jail time

Murray, KY

#712 Mar 29, 2012
Vida Gifford wrote:
From the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002:
Sec. 1348. Securities fraud
Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, a scheme or artifice--
(1) to defraud any person in connection with any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d)); or
(2) to obtain, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, any money or property in connection with the purchase or sale of any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d))
shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.'.
wow, so he could face some jail time????
imright

Grantsburg, IL

#713 Mar 29, 2012
Wonder if taxes were paid on all those management fees.
not a lawyer

Princeton, KY

#714 Mar 29, 2012
Vida Gifford wrote:
From the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002:
Sec. 1348. Securities fraud
Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, a scheme or artifice--
(1) to defraud any person in connection with any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d)); or
(2) to obtain, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, any money or property in connection with the purchase or sale of any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d))
shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.'.
These regulations apply to a publicly traded company, companies that issue stock to us common folk. CAJM is a privately held company. No Chuck is not going to jail. Read more here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%9...
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United States

#715 Mar 29, 2012
not a lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
These regulations apply to a publicly traded company, companies that issue stock to us common folk. CAJM is a privately held company. No Chuck is not going to jail. Read more here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%9...
So hes not facing any jail time, what i wonder if he is ordered to pay back money, are his private assets in jeopardy, since that is where the money went or because his company is llc is he safe. forgive my ignorance of the law, at least i'm smart enough to ask when i don't know?
Vida Gifford

Osaka, Japan

#716 Mar 29, 2012
not a lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
These regulations apply to a publicly traded company, companies that issue stock to us common folk. CAJM is a privately held company. No Chuck is not going to jail. Read more here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%9...
"not a lawyer" is a good name for you. haha

The securities fraud provisions of Sarbanes-Oxley apply to privately held companies, too. At least use google instead of wikipedia, genius.
interesting

United States

#717 Mar 29, 2012
so he can face jail time?
im not a lawyer either

Saint Louis, MO

#718 Mar 29, 2012
bernie madoff was privately held....thats how these guys steal so easily from the compnaies....richard stanford...google that name -privately held...paying taxes correctly...stealing your partners money, cooked books....misstated financial forms... all these and so mnay more are crimes! Is Chuck guilty? Maybe! we will see.
im not a lawyer either

Saint Louis, MO

#719 Mar 29, 2012
It really is up to a grand jury, or a criminal investigation to determine if Chuck has committed fraud, miappropration of funds, altered financials, proper irs payments, using expense accounts correctly etc. He had a huge investor that owns 50% of the mess! He isn't going away. If you buy into the "its' a power struggle and griffin wants to own these great coompanies" then you are more naive than the Manson Followers! It's simple. Chuck's companies didn't make money! It wasn't a tax write-off gimmick! Chuck lied to the man on several occasions regarding the viability of all the companies! Chuck pulled a business ponzi scheme. Give me little for a lot...give me more for a whole lot...I need a lot more to take us over the top, Griffin goes to the well again...Griffin is sick...Griffin is mad at himself for being so blatantly taken...Griffin is not going away....Griffin has all the lawyers he needs...Griffin can bring in bigger guns...Griffin may invole the FBI &/or the IRS for many violations concerning record keeping that involved misusing 30 million of his dollars and wrecklessly using another 15 million in lines of credit...Griffin is sick to his stomach...Griffin has been taken before...Griffen bought the whole deal and has never been hit with 45 million in potential losses....Griffin is real....Griffin wants to salvage whatever he can...Griffin has no faith in Chuck and would only agree to a temporary aggreement for Chuck to run things, if he knew he was going to end up with all of it, that is whatever is truly left....Griffin is a big dog...Chuck wanted to be Griffin like, but Chuck is no Griffin, it appears Chuck is a fraud...Griffin has a fromer CFO of Chuck's on his team...Griffin hates to lose...Griffin knows what Chuck has done - is doing - and where this will most likely end up....Griffin is praying that he, or Chuck wins the mega millions lottery to take off the sting or have any hopes of getting his money back that was taken and used for Mr. Jones and his families personal use!!!! Yes I wrote the previous one too and decided to follow-up with how it really is!
im not a lawyer either

Saint Louis, MO

#720 Mar 29, 2012
Oh yeah!!! Other crimes partners of private businesses are also accused of: Embezzlement, Wire Fraud, Mail Fraud, Payroll Fraud, Breach of Fiduciary (Spelling don't have time to look up) Duties, Forgery, Unauthorized payments, Altered contracts, Inappropriate accounting, Illegal Accounts, Kick-Backs, Bid Rigging, Bribery and the "I'm no Lawyer" there are so many more things privately held company with other owners could be charged with. Yes you can go to jail, you can be charged with crimes, even if you own 100% of the company. It happens everyday. Oh yeah, how about payroll fraud, 401 K fraud and the list just gets bigger and bigger. Maybe Chuckles did nothing except spend 45 million dollars incorrectly!
im not a lawyer either

Saint Louis, MO

#721 Mar 29, 2012
Here is our look at the Top 10 home sales by purchase price in Nashville and surrounding counties during June:
1. 413 West Hillwood Drive, Belle Meade 37205
Buyers: David B. and Roxana Griffin
Seller: Amy Schulman Eskind
Sale price:$3.75 million
Buyers’ agent: Jeanie Barrier, Pilkerton Realtors
Seller’s agent: Richard B. French, French Christianson Patterson
Our top sale this month is the Mediterranean-style palazzo, built by Eskind and her ex-husband, William, in 2003. Mrs. Eskind got title to the home in a 2009 divorce. The 11,500-square-footer includes cypress paneling and marble throughout and a lawn described as “a playing field.” Originally listed at $4.5 million, the home spent 555 days on the market
A lovely home that they have spent millions remodeling...this man is real! You can simply google David B. Griffin Nashville Homes and take a look of the beautiful home bought with real money that belonged to him.
dumb ass

Versailles, KY

#722 Mar 29, 2012
That article's a year old, so what?
my name is trayvon

Versailles, KY

#723 Mar 29, 2012
David Griffin, cotton farmer, Arkansas, USA

David Griffin and his family own 40,000 acres of land in Helena, Arkansas, 30,000 of which is used to grow cotton.

Between 1995 and 2003, Tyler Farms, the operation in charge of the land, received $24,297,994 in cotton subsidies, according to the Environmental Working Group in the US.

The farm group was the biggest recipient of cotton subsidies in America, yet Mr Griffin hardly needs the cash. He lives in a 13,000 square foot, million-dollar home, runs several tractor dealerships and sits on the board of the local bank.

He set up the farm group in 1993. It is organised into a complex web of 66 "corporations" to limit liability and get the largest amount of payments.

It is these farms, rather than smaller producers in the US, that gain the most from the subsidy payments - 60 per cent of growers receive nothing from the government.

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