student

United States

#427 Mar 15, 2012
MooreJacks wrote:
Ok folks. Here is my take.
I foresee this being a lot like Dippin Dots in Paducah. It was being poorly managed. Lender sued, bank appointed a receiver/new management to try and save the company. Funny how this almost parallels Dippin Dots.
I see a ton of mismanagement and greed. I run a few successful businesses myself. It's just basic stuff, folks. You buy your employees/security/whoever cheap cars - not escalades. Get them a Honda Civic low end model that gets 35mpg. You don't spent $1200 on a pretty glass whiteboard for a conference room. Goto the lumber store, buy a 30$ 4x8 sheet of whiteboard, and find someone to make you a frame out of lumber for $100. When you need to have management meetings, order in taco bell or quiznos - don't have $100 a plate dinners. Hire high schoolers to cut the grass for 8 bucks an hour as needed. If a toilet needs parts replaced, goto lowes and do it yourself. This style of management allows for successful businesses. I agree businesses should be charitable. That means you donate $100 here and there for an ad in a band book or school newspaper, or as a generous gesture, you maybe sponsor a table of 8 at a charity function and take some clients or employees to it for $500 once a year. You look and see if it saves $15 dollars a month to change an employee to a prepaid cell phone instead of adding them to a contract. These types of things allow for successful businesses.
Flying places that you can easily drive to, buying your hr manager an escalade to drive, giving tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars away when you are losing money, paying yourself when your business is losing money - these things are business murder.
If the companies were losing that much money, Chuck should be living in a nice 2500sq ft house, and drive a Kia or Hyundai SUV and working 16 hours a day in the business to save payroll costs.
Absolutely right, you said it better than I did, i just kept pointing out the excessive spending and the millions in losses. But the way to get through to people about this subject is exactly what you said, run a business the right way. Especially when you have outside investors that for all intents and purposes it seems have put up all the money. It is just right and ethical to try to make money for your investors not just drain it away on lavish expenses. I MEAN ESCALADES REALLY MAN THAT BLOWS MY MIND.
student

United States

#428 Mar 15, 2012
AND FOR GOD SAKE SOME HUMILITY MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE GUY ALSO!!!
beenthere

Ft Mitchell, KY

#429 Mar 15, 2012
MooreJacks wrote:
Ok folks. Here is my take.
I foresee this being a lot like Dippin Dots in Paducah. It was being poorly managed. Lender sued, bank appointed a receiver/new management to try and save the company. Funny how this almost parallels Dippin Dots.
I see a ton of mismanagement and greed. I run a few successful businesses myself. It's just basic stuff, folks. You buy your employees/security/whoever cheap cars - not escalades. Get them a Honda Civic low end model that gets 35mpg. You don't spent $1200 on a pretty glass whiteboard for a conference room. Goto the lumber store, buy a 30$ 4x8 sheet of whiteboard, and find someone to make you a frame out of lumber for $100. When you need to have management meetings, order in taco bell or quiznos - don't have $100 a plate dinners. Hire high schoolers to cut the grass for 8 bucks an hour as needed. If a toilet needs parts replaced, goto lowes and do it yourself. This style of management allows for successful businesses. I agree businesses should be charitable. That means you donate $100 here and there for an ad in a band book or school newspaper, or as a generous gesture, you maybe sponsor a table of 8 at a charity function and take some clients or employees to it for $500 once a year. You look and see if it saves $15 dollars a month to change an employee to a prepaid cell phone instead of adding them to a contract. These types of things allow for successful businesses.
Flying places that you can easily drive to, buying your hr manager an escalade to drive, giving tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars away when you are losing money, paying yourself when your business is losing money - these things are business murder.
If the companies were losing that much money, Chuck should be living in a nice 2500sq ft house, and drive a Kia or Hyundai SUV and working 16 hours a day in the business to save payroll costs.
This is all true, of course. But you must understand one simple truth: to Chuck, appearance is more important than substance. Just being able to say something like "I paid $1200 for a whiteboard" builds him up, in his mind, as more successful.
student

United States

#430 Mar 15, 2012
beenthere wrote:
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This is all true, of course. But you must understand one simple truth: to Chuck, appearance is more important than substance. Just being able to say something like "I paid $1200 for a whiteboard" builds him up, in his mind, as more successful.
you severely underestimate Chuck he doesn't just buy a $1200 whiteboard if you goto his facebook page its of him in front of a wall of plasma display screens lmao. no expense to small when it comes to image at CAJ.
Jan

Cadiz, KY

#431 Mar 15, 2012
My take is there is one more investor, cash only. Next, do you think there could be some "fake" employees chuck may be paying? The lesson for community is do not ever again line up behind a money man. People thought that by being nice to him or putting up with his arrogance, there would be something in it for them, new business, job, status, help, donation etc. when this happens we overlook the obvious and our own greed kicks in and these type of people are tolarated. No one disagrees with them and this continues to build their idea of how smart they are and thus the EGO and arrogance grows. We were a great place before Chuck and will always be great no matter what happens to Chuck Jones. This is his fight with Griffin. But let's learn our lesson. If it looks to good to be true.....
Stopthemadness

Magee, MS

#432 Mar 15, 2012
Idk if this is true, but I heard someone left there to start a competing business, and obviously departed on not so happy terms to say the least. Chuck forbid his employees (especially management) from even looking at , talking to , or associating with this person, and would be fired if they did.
student

United States

#433 Mar 15, 2012
what business?
Stopthemadness

Philadelphia, MS

#434 Mar 15, 2012
From what I recall, it had something to do with online books
great job murray state

United States

#436 Mar 15, 2012
Agent wrote:
40k per month to lease the caj company vehics.... From Dwain Taylors..........
sounds a bit excessive ???
Stopthemadness

Decatur, AL

#437 Mar 15, 2012
40k , that'd over 2 grand a car, u sure about that?
go racers

Dubuque, IA

#439 Mar 15, 2012
seen the jones family at the game today smiling having a big time. as i looked at them smh it makes everyone just sick they have no shame.
great job murray state

United States

#440 Mar 15, 2012
they don't seem to think the gig is up, he is married to a lawyer. maybe he has some legal way of getting gout of trouble. BUT ITS STILL UNETHICAL.
Stopthemadness

Decatur, AL

#441 Mar 15, 2012
I bet they didn't take the private jet
go racers

Dubuque, IA

#442 Mar 15, 2012
they had plenty of people watching them today. they have no shame.
Pig

Nashville, TN

#443 Mar 16, 2012
Stopthemadness wrote:
Idk if this is true, but I heard someone left there to start a competing business, and obviously departed on not so happy terms to say the least. Chuck forbid his employees (especially management) from even looking at , talking to , or associating with this person, and would be fired if they did.
LOL That is S.O.P. for Chfuck. I have been out of that place for three years now and anytime my name comes up people get the 5th degree for it.
beenthere

Ft Mitchell, KY

#445 Mar 16, 2012
Pig wrote:
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LOL That is S.O.P. for Chfuck. I have been out of that place for three years now and anytime my name comes up people get the 5th degree for it.
Yea, Pig, ya know you were the cause of everything for about 3 months. Server crash, damn Pig! Lunch order wrong, damn Pig! Got a flat tire? Damn Pig!

It was kinda of humorous. And of course, as much came from that Earl guy as anyone else.
WHATS THE CURRENT NEWS

Murray, KY

#446 Mar 16, 2012
anything new in the chuck jones case, when is he supposed to file a response.
Debby Rus

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#447 Mar 16, 2012
The defence response is due on march 21 but chfuck has been to busy going to basketball games and having trees planted at the mcmansion too really be helping his bankruptcy lawyers much. Maybe his boy whit is taking point on the lawsuit. hahaha

Since: Mar 12

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#448 Mar 16, 2012
It said he had 21 days from February 28 so it should be just a few short days. I can't hardly wait to see what he has to say.
East Prairie Boy

Herndon, VA

#449 Mar 16, 2012
beenthere wrote:
<quoted text>It was kinda of humorous. And of course, as much came from that Earl guy as anyone else.
Isn't Earl the guy who they hired out at SEB to run the place? If it is the same guy, I've heard Chuck talk about that boy like he's a turd in a punchbowl!

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