How can anyone own a business in Murr...
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#21 Mar 21, 2013
Linda wrote:
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Somerset is in Pulaski County which has 16,000 more people than Calloway. We may have more in the city limits but Murray is more geographically isolated.
I'm tired of hearing that BS too. Hawaii is the definition of geographically isolated. Last I looked, Murray has roads in and out. And Pulaski County doesn't have 11,000 university students either.
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#22 Mar 21, 2013
Oh and don't forget that Pulaski County has an area of 677 square miles. Calloway County has 410 square miles.

Thanks for playing!
For Real

Yonkers, NY

#23 Mar 21, 2013
Jack wrote:
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It seems you might be happier in Mayfield where the economy is stagnant. Murray is in fact growing. If you don't like that then why don't you move?
I should move? Yeah, I'm not the one bitching about Murray. Did you even read my post? I am perfectly happy here in Murray, so I won't be going anywhere anytime soon. I acknowledge the changes that Murray has seen, and I have enjoyed a few of our new restaurants. But all I seem to hear from some people is how it is not enough. I never said that Murray should be stagnant, either, but since you disagree with a few of the things I have said, of course I should move, right?
godless heathen

Owensboro, KY

#24 Mar 21, 2013
need growth wrote:
As far as I can tell the leadership in Murray has not kept up with the times and should be replaced by people who understand growth and opportunity. Murray has out grown our county / city leaders. We should be the largest city by far in western Ky. We need jobs, roads, infrastructure, more tourism, etc...
Murray will never be the largest city in Western Ky., just for the simple reason of location. Paducah has the river and an interstate highway. Paducah will always be the best of this region when it comes to growth and economy.
belinda

Dallas, TX

#25 Mar 21, 2013
I tried to open a business in Murray about 18 years ago, and was told by some Dictator named Chip, I think was his name, that I was not allowed to open up in Murray.
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#26 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
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...but since you disagree with a few of the things I have said, of course I should move, right?
You disagree with what other people are saying, yet you tell them to move.
Dill

Tucker, GA

#27 Mar 21, 2013
godless heathen wrote:
<quoted text>Murray will never be the largest city in Western Ky., just for the simple reason of location. Paducah has the river and an interstate highway. Paducah will always be the best of this region when it comes to growth and economy.
Paducah's population is actually declining.
For Real

Murray, KY

#28 Mar 21, 2013
The Zodiac wrote:
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And that was the classic response I was looking for. "If you don't like it, move". And it's not about the type of business coming in, it's about someone wanting to make money, follow a dream of owning their own business, etc. It's also about having choices. It doesn't matter if we have 20 sub shops. It's about giving people options. And it's not like the guy is opening a porn store. It's a damn sandwich shop. It shouldn't be this hard to open a simple sub shop. By the way, how does that look to potential corporations who are looking for areas to set up or expand? Do you think they want to deal with red tape left and right? As you can see, that new industrial park is loaded with companies. How many corporations have ran away because of all the local BS? I don't blame them. But there is hope. The old guard, people like "For Real" are dying off left and right. Maybe someday this town will reach it's full potential.
Oh and if you want to see how progress can work and still keep their small town charm, look at Paducah. Small town with lots of choices. Anyone remember when the Big Burley Mart was the only thing across from the mall? Can you imagine if the current and past leaders of Murray were in charge there? The Big Burley Mart would still be there along with an empty field. To the "leaders" of Murray that ignore the will of the people and think they are the sh it and hold some real power; STOP BEING THE PROBLEM AND START BECOMING THE SOLUTION!!!
My comment about you moving was not intended to be rude. It was in response to your complaints about this town. If you truly dislike where you live and do nothing but gripe about it, instead of changing your situation, what does that say about you? What I hear you saying is that Paducah and Somerset are better than Murray. Wouldn't it make more sense for you to live in one of those places?

You've also commented that people are not being allowed to "follow their dream." Is it new, then, that people trying to start new businesses might encounter obstacles and difficulties? If you are truly outraged at this, blame reality, because that is life. Our country IS red tape left and right, whether you are trying to open a business or go to college. No one wants to deal with it, but once again, that is life.

I also hear you say that we don't double up on fast food joints here like they do in Somerset, and that people must wait in line. If our society didn't feel so entitled to instant gratification, this would not be such a problem. Sometimes I want something from McDonalds at noon. I know that I am either going to have to wait or make another choice. That "tough" decision does not impact my quality of life that much, I am happy to say.

If, as you say, the "old guard" is dying out, why is it that your bitching and moaning is not getting you your way? You told someone earlier that if they don't like McDonalds, don't eat there. Well, once again, if you don't like Murray...
Had Enough

United States

#29 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
It seems like you guys would be much happier if you just went ahead and made the move to a great big city. Some people, myself definitely included, are happy with Murray just the way it is. I know that, to you, that means that I, and others, are "stuck in the dark ages" or something equally clever. I enjoy living in a small(ish) town and raising my family here. If Murray ever got to be as large and bustling as Paducah, which is not even really a big town, I would no longer be happy here, and I know I am not alone. I've lived here all of my 30+ years, and in that time I've seen Murray grow quite a bit. No matter how much progress is made here, people are constantly screaming "More, more, more." Well, I for one am not going to go bitching and moaning because we didn't get (another) new sandwich shop. If you don't like living here, and if you're not satisfied with the progress Murray has seen, then I think you owe it to yourselves to move on to some overcrowded metropolis that better meets your high, sophisticated standards.
Amen Amen
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#30 Mar 21, 2013
For Real, where in any of my posts does it state that I hate/dislike Murray or that I don't want to live here? Find it. Also find where it states that I said Somerset and Paducah are better than Murray. What I have said is that the way Murray is run could stand to be better and we could stand to have more choices.

And yes, there is red tape in everything, but it's a little strange when this man that has been wanting to open a business here, has been in front of the same commission at least three times and this time 40% of the commissioners are a no-show??? Now that tells me four things:

1. The commissioners don't give a damn about the city of Murray
2. The commissioners don't care about their job
3. The commissioners don't care about the will of the people
4. All of the above
For Real

Murray, KY

#32 Mar 21, 2013
Zodiac, I apologize for thinking that you must hate/dislike Murray. I must have been mistaken. I mean, every single one of your posts thus far have been chock full of complaints about our fair town, but I'm sure that means nothing. And the fact that you have yet to say one positive thing about Murray? Coincidental, I'm sure. I had posted last night asking for anyone complaining to state what they did like about Murray, and no one replied to that, but I'm sure you didn't see it, or maybe thought it didn't apply to you.

Okay, I hate to be facetious, but maybe you can see my point? It seems as if every time I look at this site, someone is complaining about Murray. Can you honestly tell me that Murray has not seen substantial growth, just in the past year? For some people it is never enough. I'm really tired of hearing people whine that their community does not magically adapt to their desired lifestyle. Common sense tells us that we need to either adapt to our surroundings, or find ourselves some new surroundings. That's really all I mean when I say that those who are not happy here should live elsewhere. I don't say it to be cruel or rude. I say it because it is the logical thing to do when you have so many complaints about your town.
Drew Thompson

United States

#33 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
Zodiac, I apologize for thinking that you must hate/dislike Murray. I must have been mistaken. I mean, every single one of your posts thus far have been chock full of complaints about our fair town, but I'm sure that means nothing. And the fact that you have yet to say one positive thing about Murray? Coincidental, I'm sure. I had posted last night asking for anyone complaining to state what they did like about Murray, and no one replied to that, but I'm sure you didn't see it, or maybe thought it didn't apply to you.

Okay, I hate to be facetious, but maybe you can see my point? It seems as if every time I look at this site, someone is complaining about Murray. Can you honestly tell me that Murray has not seen substantial growth, just in the past year? For some people it is never enough. I'm really tired of hearing people whine that their community does not magically adapt to their desired lifestyle. Common sense tells us that we need to either adapt to our surroundings, or find ourselves some new surroundings. That's really all I mean when I say that those who are not happy here should live elsewhere. I don't say it to be cruel or rude. I say it because it is the logical thing to do when you have so many complaints about your town.
You seem to have nothing good to say about Topix. Why do you expect the site to be more positive to suit you? Common sense tells us we need to adapt or fine new surroundings. Perhaps you should try Facebook.
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#34 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
Zodiac, I apologize for thinking that you must hate/dislike Murray. I must have been mistaken. I mean, every single one of your posts thus far have been chock full of complaints about our fair town, but I'm sure that means nothing. And the fact that you have yet to say one positive thing about Murray? Coincidental, I'm sure. I had posted last night asking for anyone complaining to state what they did like about Murray, and no one replied to that, but I'm sure you didn't see it, or maybe thought it didn't apply to you.
Okay, I hate to be facetious, but maybe you can see my point? It seems as if every time I look at this site, someone is complaining about Murray. Can you honestly tell me that Murray has not seen substantial growth, just in the past year? For some people it is never enough. I'm really tired of hearing people whine that their community does not magically adapt to their desired lifestyle. Common sense tells us that we need to either adapt to our surroundings, or find ourselves some new surroundings. That's really all I mean when I say that those who are not happy here should live elsewhere. I don't say it to be cruel or rude. I say it because it is the logical thing to do when you have so many complaints about your town.
Because this thread is not a love-fest about Murray. If you start a thread about the positive things about Murray, I will be sure to post accordingly. Now if you are truly tired of people complaining about their community, then turn a deaf ear. And Murray has has growth. It can be better, more streamlined and better laid-out. Not everything has to be on 12th street, as someone mentioned. Why not build on or near KY 80? The 121 bypass has had fairly good success, so why not have more options than 12th and 121? Hell, there is plenty of land between Circus Skate and KY 80 and it remains 12th street. Now, let's talk about being the only town around here without a bypass.
For Real

Murray, KY

#35 Mar 21, 2013
The Zodiac wrote:
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Because this thread is not a love-fest about Murray. If you start a thread about the positive things about Murray, I will be sure to post accordingly. Now if you are truly tired of people complaining about their community, then turn a deaf ear. And Murray has has growth. It can be better, more streamlined and better laid-out. Not everything has to be on 12th street, as someone mentioned. Why not build on or near KY 80? The 121 bypass has had fairly good success, so why not have more options than 12th and 121? Hell, there is plenty of land between Circus Skate and KY 80 and it remains 12th street. Now, let's talk about being the only town around here without a bypass.
Okay, so you want to say what you want to say about Murray, and as long as I agree with you, I can post, too. But if I don't share your view, I need to keep my mouth shut. That's mature. Maybe that has something to do with how the first five posts on this thread look like they were all written by the same person. Whatever. Complain all you like, and keep doing nothing about it aside from posting it on Topix. See where that gets you.

Meanwhile, I, and people like me who actually like living here, will continue to enjoy this town and all it has to offer. Like I said before, some folks are never satisfied. They want more and more change, then they get it, and, still, they are not satisfied. That problem lies with you, and people like you, not our town.
For Real

Murray, KY

#36 Mar 21, 2013
Drew Thompson wrote:
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You seem to have nothing good to say about Topix. Why do you expect the site to be more positive to suit you? Common sense tells us we need to adapt or fine new surroundings. Perhaps you should try Facebook.
Common sense? And what would you know about that? Oh, maybe you know where I can "fine" some.

I didn't say anything good or bad about Topix. You dreamt that, genius.
Drew Thompson

United States

#37 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
<quoted text>Common sense? And what would you know about that? Oh, maybe you know where I can "fine" some.

I didn't say anything good or bad about Topix. You dreamt that, genius.
You complained that everything posted about Murray is negative. Alzheimer's?
For Real

Murray, KY

#38 Mar 21, 2013
Drew Thompson wrote:
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You complained that everything posted about Murray is negative. Alzheimer's?
Totally not what I said, but okay. Why don't you find my post and read it again. Then make more stupid comments to me. Can't wait!!!
Drew Thompson

United States

#39 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
<quoted text>Totally not what I said, but okay. Why don't you find my post and read it again. Then make more stupid comments to me. Can't wait!!!
U mad
The Zodiac

Owensboro, KY

#40 Mar 21, 2013
For Real wrote:
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Like I said before, some folks are never satisfied. They want more and more change, then they get it, and, still, they are not satisfied. That problem lies with you, and people like you, not our town.
Lithium much?

Now where is that love-fest thread...
For Real

Murray, KY

#41 Mar 21, 2013
Drew Thompson wrote:
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U mad
U special?

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