greengirlshop

Owensboro, KY

#82 Mar 14, 2013
WHY wrote:
I think the board members like Larry Elkins, Darnell, Owens,Penner and the rest of the board members need to explain to all these families why they lost their jobs, why they cant put food on their table and why they didnt get a least a 2 weeks notice. Also, why would they build on to the hospital if the board members new the hospital was in this shape. I feel for the families. I think the board members should be held responsible for this. I think they need to step forward now and let the people know WHY? Oh but you dont hear from them now, but Elkins, Penner and all them sure were there to get their pics in the paper when the NEW addition was being built.
The employees were told face to face why their was a lay off, and you don't know what they received, but they did not leave empty handed
food for thought

Hickory, KY

#83 Mar 14, 2013
Everyone wanted healthcare...everyone is going to get it! But...and I mean a big but...it will not pay for much at all and you will be finding it hard to find doctor, hospital, pharmacy, medical supply, lab, or diagnostic service place to accept what the insurance will reimburse. So you better be getting your visa for your trip overseas for healthcare. Oh, and the cheapest premium they are offering for under this government based assistance will cost you $1000 a month or you will have to pay the penalty when you file your annual taxes. That penalty is $600 per year. Heck, take the penalty and pay out of your pocket for your own healthcare will be what the world is coming to.
Xxx

Murray, KY

#84 Mar 14, 2013
Xx
seen it

Murray, KY

#85 Mar 14, 2013
just duckie wrote:
<quoted text>
this is true, techinal training is good too, but there'll always be a need for doctors and nurses,and pharmacists, as the population ages. and the higher ups at the hospital still have a job, don't they? so education does continue to pay. out the gazoo.
True (generally - although not all those jobs require a 4 year degree) but ALL of them require more than just college. Most people can get a good paying job by doing 2 years of college and additional technical training or skills. To be fair, if our K-12 schools did their jobs - like they do in Western Europe - you could start learning a career in the 10th grade without wasting time going to college to read "catcher in the rye". I never said college has NO value - obviously the world needs doctor(at least until Obama care shuts them all down) and lawyers (no wait, not laywers..) My point was that so many people who go there because they think they should (or they want 4 years away from home to party) could better serve their wallets with a focused education and a usable degree...
Best answer I can give

United States

#86 Mar 14, 2013
I think the hospital over built because the felt the pressure from nearby hospitals who had just finished major expansions.

However, instead of building to meet the need of the community and the need to overcome competition they built for 10 -15 years out. This may have been a little ambitious and it has come back to bite them in the financial ass. However, if they can hold on they won't have to make another addition for 20 years.

They built too much for what they needed and it was a bad decision. So instead of staying up with the competiton they overdid it and you see what it has cost them. Planning for the future is one thing, but this was too much.

It's too late now and the price will cost the community. I don't know what the end will be, but more lost jobs are coming and it may be 10 years before they overcome this bad decision.

A buyout is possible and that won't be good for the community.
Bad News

Sedalia, KY

#87 Mar 14, 2013
Best answer I can give wrote:
I think the hospital over built because the felt the pressure from nearby hospitals who had just finished major expansions.

However, instead of building to meet the need of the community and the need to overcome competition they built for 10 -15 years out. This may have been a little ambitious and it has come back to bite them in the financial ass. However, if they can hold on they won't have to make another addition for 20 years.

They built too much for what they needed and it was a bad decision. So instead of staying up with the competiton they overdid it and you see what it has cost them. Planning for the future is one thing, but this was too much.

It's too late now and the price will cost the community. I don't know what the end will be, but more lost jobs are coming and it may be 10 years before they overcome this bad decision.

A buyout is possible and that won't be good for the community.
A buyout would be best for everyone.
Micky

Franklin, IN

#88 Mar 14, 2013
Guido Fawkes wrote:
<quoted text>
That's an intelligent, well informed comment. Based upon good information and well researched facts. Why can't there be more people like this in the world? Let's just disregard the ACA.
it's already happing in Paducah!! my wife's sister is a RN at baptists and there already cutting back on hours .. Really not hiring to many folks.. the worse is still to come..
wow

Murray, KY

#89 Mar 14, 2013
does anyone know who was let go from the hospital
Big Mess

Tucker, GA

#90 Mar 15, 2013
Once upon a time MCCH had an Administrator who foresaw a time when government programs would fail. he cut 100 positions by attrition, not by firing. These people were allowed to retire with dignity and full benefits while they're positions were simply absorbed rather than replaced. He managed to save a million dollars in the process which he put back for a rainy day.
Well, guess what, the rainy day has come and that administrator, Stuart Poston, was fired by the board and a series of spendthrift buffoons have replaced him ever since. Good job, all you redneck idiots! You wanted change. You got it, at the expense of hard working community members who've lost their jobs in this horrible economy!
I am one of them and, as a single parent I really don't know what I am going to do!
I went into health care thinking it was the most secure field out there! Now at age 40, this layoff has caused me to question everything I ever knew! What a big mess for all involved! Including our community who cannot help but suffer the consequences of your personal vendettas and extremely poor judgement!! Too bad we couldnt've kept someone in charge who had ties to the community and who genuinely cared about MCCH and its patients and employes as administrator! But, as they say let no good deed or wise decision go unpunished! Looks to me like we're all sharing theat punishment for years to come.
haha

Tucker, GA

#91 Mar 15, 2013
I love all the sudden "experts" who "know" all the details and can make educated judgements of what should or shouldn't have been done. Keep it up geniuses and we can solve all the world problems.
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United States

#92 Mar 15, 2013
haha wrote:
I love all the sudden "experts" who "know" all the details and can make educated judgements of what should or shouldn't have been done. Keep it up geniuses and we can solve all the world problems.
Hey... at least we are having some discussion about the problem... all you have to offer is a stupid comment.

Since: Feb 12

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#93 Mar 15, 2013
haha wrote:
I love all the sudden "experts" who "know" all the details and can make educated judgements of what should or shouldn't have been done. Keep it up geniuses and we can solve all the world problems.
You must be one of our genius board members !!! Ha ha !! No one is saying they're experts but apparently the people running our hospital, that should fall under that category, unfortunately they have proven themselves as undereducated, dimwits who are in over their heads and because of their "status" in the this town they were appointed on a board that should have had members aware of the financial and day to day running of a hospital. These are the same idiots that hired O'Shaunassey and he is where the hospitals down fall started. Wouldn't have taken a genius to check his background and see that he had already bankrupt other hospitals. Guess his smooth talking was all the members needed, as that's how they work as well. Glad to know Murray's elite and holier than though group of citizens are patrolling this site :)
haha

Tucker, GA

#94 Mar 15, 2013
Illinois gal wrote:
<quoted text>You must be one of our genius board members !!! Ha ha !! No one is saying they're experts but apparently the people running our hospital, that should fall under that category, unfortunately they have proven themselves as undereducated, dimwits who are in over their heads and because of their "status" in the this town they were appointed on a board that should have had members aware of the financial and day to day running of a hospital. These are the same idiots that hired O'Shaunassey and he is where the hospitals down fall started. Wouldn't have taken a genius to check his background and see that he had already bankrupt other hospitals. Guess his smooth talking was all the members needed, as that's how they work as well. Glad to know Murray's elite and holier than though group of citizens are patrolling this site :)
When u gonna apply to the board or attend a meeting to give it a go for yourself? Or is it easier to just puddle around on here?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#95 Mar 15, 2013
haha wrote:
<quoted text>When u gonna apply to the board or attend a meeting to give it a go for yourself? Or is it easier to just puddle around on here?
I worked at that place for years. No desire to have anything to do with it. My business goes to Paducah where if I need a specialist there is one on hand. Nope, didn't lose my job there, quit voluntarily several years ago. Best decision ever. What exactly makes you so knowledgable ? Perhaps you can sit on the board and make better decisions. Wouldn't take much, give it a shot lol
wow

United States

#96 Mar 15, 2013
gaye wrote:
my husband and i both work full time jobs and raise our children and put food on the table. neither of our jobs offer health care and our children have a medical card while we both have nothing. on the rare occasion we need to see a doctor we pay out of pocket and buy meds out of pocket. there is no way we can afford even the lowest health insurace. it is near the same as we pay for our monthly mortgage payment. so what makes us such bad ppeople that we should just die before we receive care? we live within our means and pay our monthly bills. we do not have luxury vehicles or credit cards nor do our children walk around with smart phones or us for that matter. we have no choice but to go without health insurance!! does that make me of less worth than someone that does?
For you and your husband you should look into the angels clinic if you need medical care. They would be glad to help you.
reality

Murray, KY

#97 Mar 15, 2013
There is not a single fact ever posted on this speculative forum. Its true what they say about opinions and axxholes. Listen, they damn astronomers say Pluto isn't a planet anymore, when i grew up we were taught that it was the cutest, littlest, coldest planet. Well screw that, it doesn't exist!! Our planet is constantly evolving, healthcare is only relevant now. A hundred years ago, women had babies in a shack, or in the back of a wagon. We are pampered souls, appreciative of the fashions of our society. have we lost the true meaning of life? Do we not simply breathe so that others may breathe with us? What do you pray for at church? Do you pray that you get everything?? Do you pray that we all endure a little less suffering?? Do you ever pray that things won't change every ten seconds and people won't lie to us!! I trust nobody. I think vegetables are the most honest living organisms, they just get eaten and help you poop. Everything else wants something in return!! Have none of you heard Metallica?? Its soothing and it answers so much!!
wow

Murray, KY

#98 Mar 16, 2013
was any of the ER nurses or x ray tech let go?
Trumpmister

Benton, KY

#99 Mar 16, 2013
seen it wrote:
<quoted text>
True (generally - although not all those jobs require a 4 year degree) but ALL of them require more than just college. Most people can get a good paying job by doing 2 years of college and additional technical training or skills. To be fair, if our K-12 schools did their jobs - like they do in Western Europe - you could start learning a career in the 10th grade without wasting time going to college to read "catcher in the rye". I never said college has NO value - obviously the world needs doctor(at least until Obama care shuts them all down) and lawyers (no wait, not laywers..) My point was that so many people who go there because they think they should (or they want 4 years away from home to party) could better serve their wallets with a focused education and a usable degree...
You are absolutely correct regarding your point about the education system in Europe. However; I can only speak to the German education system and how they’re light years ahead of the United States. We are doomed if we don’t get our K-12 education standards in order coupled with real teacher annual certifications and evaluations. It’s nice to sit around the dinner table and ask your kids what they want to be when they grow up but in reality that’s not the case. We should and must have highly skilled and diverse career counselors at the middle and high school level. It’s not what the student might want to be when they grow up its identifying and analyzing current employment data that gives young students a potential idea regarding obtainable career paths for the future. Sure I would love to work as an “underwater basket weaver” but is their any future in it for me and my family when it comes to placing food on the table and a roof over our heads?

There’s much accountability to be passed around but it starts at home coupled with responsible education standards that must be enforced.
greengirlshop

Owensboro, KY

#100 Mar 16, 2013
Micky wrote:
<quoted text> it's already happing in Paducah!! my wife's sister is a RN at baptists and there already cutting back on hours .. Really not hiring to many folks.. the worse is still to come..
and my sister is a nurse in Paducah and is sent home at least one day a week- that's 24 hours off each paycheck. Plus her insurance is over twice the price of MCCH
Agreed

United States

#101 Mar 16, 2013
She needs to expand her resume then. I work the opposite direction close to Clarksville and there is no such thing as low census. Its not the same everywhere, thank goodness. Our insurance is priced very well too. Tell her to look around. I feel sorry for her because I'm sure, if she is like me, she depends on her salary.

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