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Independent

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Jan 9, 2013
 
derpy wrote:
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Painfully obvious-
I guess I am just confused by someone who endorses more control on "assault weapons" using the same argument as most gun advocates.
If a criminal really wants something, there is nothing to be done to stop them.
So I guess I would ask on what grounds would you seek to limit the possession of "assault weapons" for law abiding citizens.
I own a couple of guns myself and would gladly use one if I thought it necessary. That really has little to do with owning a gun that can kill dozens of people in a few seconds. As I've said numerous times, it's about where we draw the line. People who want no lines drawn are not operating in a reality based world. Is it OK to own a surface to air missile or a bazooka? Hell no. Those are weapons of war. 99% of the public would agree with that. Those that do not have opinions that are of no consequence in the public debate. So that's my question; where do we draw the line?

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Jan 9, 2013
 
Independent wrote:
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I own a couple of guns myself and would gladly use one if I thought it necessary. That really has little to do with owning a gun that can kill dozens of people in a few seconds. As I've said numerous times, it's about where we draw the line. People who want no lines drawn are not operating in a reality based world. Is it OK to own a surface to air missile or a bazooka? Hell no. Those are weapons of war. 99% of the public would agree with that. Those that do not have opinions that are of no consequence in the public debate. So that's my question; where do we draw the line?
But there are only two possible choices:
1) Leave things the way they are
or
2) Take all of everybody's guns.

Those, unfortunately, are the only two possible outcomes, and if you love 'Merica and freedom and babies and puppies you will pick the first one, and everybody else is a God-hating atheist, gay agenda pushing Satanic, Sharia law implementing, anti-American, communist, nazi.
Independent

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Jan 9, 2013
 
Anonymous Keyboard Tapper wrote:
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But there are only two possible choices:
1) Leave things the way they are
or
2) Take all of everybody's guns.
Those, unfortunately, are the only two possible outcomes, and if you love 'Merica and freedom and babies and puppies you will pick the first one, and everybody else is a God-hating atheist, gay agenda pushing Satanic, Sharia law implementing, anti-American, communist, nazi.
So it would seem.
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Jan 9, 2013
 
Independent wrote:
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I own a couple of guns myself and would gladly use one if I thought it necessary. That really has little to do with owning a gun that can kill dozens of people in a few seconds. As I've said numerous times, it's about where we draw the line. People who want no lines drawn are not operating in a reality based world. Is it OK to own a surface to air missile or a bazooka? Hell no. Those are weapons of war. 99% of the public would agree with that. Those that do not have opinions that are of no consequence in the public debate. So that's my question; where do we draw the line?
You side stepped my question- On what grounds would you seek to limit the acquisition of "assault weapons" IE a mossberg 500 with a pistol grip. Which in effect is the same question you pose, where do we draw the line?- I did not infer you did not own guns, or wanted to ban them. No sane person has said they need a surface to air missile.

In the other thread you agree that the most widely used definition of an "assault weapon" is cosmetic features- Telescoping stocks, pistol grips and what not. And the "civilian weapon" counter part is just as destructive, but has a wood stock. This seems like an impotent spot to draw a line as they only keep law abiding citizens from having them.

If you're saying the line should be drawn below a a missle, mine, sarin gas, unicorns with lasers, I go "no shit" But when the line is being drawn at a pistol grip and barrel shrouds on a shotgun I go "why?"
Nickel and Dime

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Jan 10, 2013
 
derpy wrote:
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You side stepped my question- On what grounds would you seek to limit the acquisition of "assault weapons" IE a mossberg 500 with a pistol grip. Which in effect is the same question you pose, where do we draw the line?- I did not infer you did not own guns, or wanted to ban them. No sane person has said they need a surface to air missile.
In the other thread you agree that the most widely used definition of an "assault weapon" is cosmetic features- Telescoping stocks, pistol grips and what not. And the "civilian weapon" counter part is just as destructive, but has a wood stock. This seems like an impotent spot to draw a line as they only keep law abiding citizens from having them.
If you're saying the line should be drawn below a a missle, mine, sarin gas, unicorns with lasers, I go "no shit" But when the line is being drawn at a pistol grip and barrel shrouds on a shotgun I go "why?"
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Dam those impotent spots. They can be tricky.
Independent

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Jan 10, 2013
 
derpy wrote:
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You side stepped my question- On what grounds would you seek to limit the acquisition of "assault weapons" IE a mossberg 500 with a pistol grip. Which in effect is the same question you pose, where do we draw the line?- I did not infer you did not own guns, or wanted to ban them. No sane person has said they need a surface to air missile.
In the other thread you agree that the most widely used definition of an "assault weapon" is cosmetic features- Telescoping stocks, pistol grips and what not. And the "civilian weapon" counter part is just as destructive, but has a wood stock. This seems like an impotent spot to draw a line as they only keep law abiding citizens from having them.
If you're saying the line should be drawn below a a missle, mine, sarin gas, unicorns with lasers, I go "no shit" But when the line is being drawn at a pistol grip and barrel shrouds on a shotgun I go "why?"
By no means am I an authority on guns. Nor am I leading the charge to ban this gun or that. I do take issue with those who say they have the right to own whatever weapon they like, and we have some of those crazies right here on this forum. Do you honestly think there are no individuals who would purchase a surface to air missile launcher if it was legal? Of course there are. They would only be limited by their wallet.

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#73
Jan 10, 2013
 
“He who is willing to surrender his freedom for security deserves nether!”
Benjamin Franklin

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#74
Jan 10, 2013
 
Ever wonder why people were so much smarter 200+yrs ago?
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Jan 10, 2013
 
And there you have it.

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