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The Outsider

Bangkok, Thailand

#1 Feb 9, 2013
Why doesn't Ivy Tech have any serious money in this so-called school?

They are a state funded school, they aren't really creating any new jobs since the teachers and admin are already on the payroll and the rooms and classes utilized at the library don't seem to be utilized enough to warrant a so-called 500 person enrollment.

On the outside, it makes perfect sense to have a post high-school education program locally, but not so much sense when the community and govt have well over 90 percent of the cost associated with said school.

The mayor and his crew are struggling with giving a tax abatement to a store that might create two full-time jobs and a dozen or so part-time jobs. But these are new jobs that require new people and not the "reshuffling" of current employees from Lafayette.
old man

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Feb 9, 2013
Finally someone else sees this!!!
I agree

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Feb 10, 2013
The paper said it is going to have 12 full time and 20 part time that is 32 people that could use a job from frankfort. What is wrong with this picture. Must be someone in high places not wanting them for their personal gain.
Al Czervik

West Lafayette, IN

#4 Feb 10, 2013
I agree wrote:
The paper said it is going to have 12 full time and 20 part time that is 32 people that could use a job from frankfort. What is wrong with this picture. Must be someone in high places not wanting them for their personal gain.
Will 32 people even fit in that building at the same time ?
Hmmm

Chicago, IL

#5 Feb 10, 2013
Al Czervik wrote:
<quoted text> Will 32 people even fit in that building at the same time ?
Seriously??? An intelligent conversation and all you have is that?

Think its time to head up to the meeting and ask some pointed and intelligent questions. It's too bad i'll get shut down at the worst and some BS response as the best.

I bet the paper doesn't even quote people asking good questions about it

Looking forward to someone breaking the media barrier and getting the truth out
handful

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Feb 11, 2013
everyone gets their opinoin,it makes us a great country, the other side is this, the people who step foward for office an ridicule and lead in the public forum will make decisions and make things happen. People who hide behind blank comments will always be thought of as cowards who put nothing at stake.This country was not inspired by cowards. But thats only my opinion.
Sooooo

Michigantown, IN

#7 Feb 11, 2013
What's your name coward?
kids games

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Feb 11, 2013
Sooooo wrote:
What's your name coward?
what a cowards way out!
Al Czervik

West Lafayette, IN

#9 Feb 11, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously??? An intelligent conversation and all you have is that?
Think its time to head up to the meeting and ask some pointed and intelligent questions. It's too bad i'll get shut down at the worst and some BS response as the best.
I bet the paper doesn't even quote people asking good questions about it
Looking forward to someone breaking the media barrier and getting the truth out
It's was a joke num nuts , and as far as a intelligent conversation your NOT going to find it on Topix
Wow

Michigantown, IN

#10 Feb 11, 2013
kids games wrote:
<quoted text>what a cowards way out!
and yours is???

If you want to make the comment and believe it, then live it.

Otherwise....

Sounds like KB comment.
kids games

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Feb 12, 2013
my motives are not negetive, my motives are not to complain about the people who are trying to move this town forward. I don't agree with every decision that is made. On the other hand your motives are quite clear. I just do not understand people who are negetive. After two years on here the good thing is that less than the fingers I have on one hand is their numbers. That is alot of wasted time and thought. At the heart people follow leaders not complainers. KEEP COMPLAINING
Sooooo

Michigantown, IN

#12 Feb 12, 2013
It is ok to complain about the person who voiced a legitimate complaint above, but because he or she didn't put their name out there, you feel the need to call them a coward.

So, your logic used is if you voice your opinion, you are a coward.

As stated above, welcome to the club.
Ivy

Fishers, IN

#13 Feb 12, 2013
What people seem to forget is Ivy Tech has offered classes in Frankfort before. They were held at the library - and very few people took them, so they stopped. Seems like we're wasting a lot of money to get Ivy Tech here, but will people actually enroll? If history repeats itself, they won't.
Tired of all the Crooks

Frankfort, IN

#14 Feb 12, 2013
I believe that they are spending a lot of money in an attempt to bolster the downtown area. The goal is to get more people on the square.
Soo

Tampa, FL

#15 Feb 13, 2013
Tired of all the Crooks wrote:
I believe that they are spending a lot of money in an attempt to bolster the downtown area. The goal is to get more people on the square.
So now we are on the hook for potential 2 mil more...

All because of a flood plain issue that most property owners know about investigating anytime they are near a water source like a creek, river, pond, or lake.

Thanks again.

Oh yea, can you share some of Daemons tax abatement's with the new grocery store? Oh, that's right, we want people to transfer into our county thru Ivy Tech, all the while draw their paychecks out of county so no extra revenue there. But we can deny a new store with up to 12 full-time and 20 part time along with a new building.

Classic case of "seriously???"
Tired of all the Crooks

Frankfort, IN

#16 Feb 14, 2013
Is there anyplace that one can go and just have an open conversation without the name calling and backstabbing. I find it interesting that some people on here are calling others cowards but they are on here using an alias as well. I believe that the bible says that we are all created equall. Granted some may be more educated or in the know more then others, but seriously what really makes one better then another, I believe that we all put are pants on the same way. If Frankfort is really ever going to get better, the tax payers are going to have to join together and run some of the crooks, liers, theives and hillbilly hypocrites out of the positions that they now hold. I know that when we vote anymore, we are essentially just voting for the lesser of the two evils or what we believe to be the lesser of the two evils. We are going to have to get good honest people in office before things will slowly start turning around. Just my opinion, that and 50 cents will get you a coffee at McDonalds.
I know who you are

Michigantown, IN

#17 Feb 14, 2013
Welcome back Martin
Confused

Frankfort, IN

#18 Feb 16, 2013
Soo wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we are on the hook for potential 2 mil more...
All because of a flood plain issue that most property owners know about investigating anytime they are near a water source like a creek, river, pond, or lake.
Thanks again.
Oh yea, can you share some of Daemons tax abatement's with the new grocery store? Oh, that's right, we want people to transfer into our county thru Ivy Tech, all the while draw their paychecks out of county so no extra revenue there. But we can deny a new store with up to 12 full-time and 20 part time along with a new building.
Classic case of "seriously???"
Revenue is earned in more forms than county payroll. Faculty and students will need breakfast, lunch, dinner, fuel, supplies etc. So many of these forum comments are not constructive and lack vision. Hateful, mean, personal attacks are not effective and makes good comments lack credibility. Keep it honest and fair not personal!
Richard McCoy Jr

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Feb 16, 2013
Confused wrote:
<quoted text>
Revenue is earned in more forms than county payroll. Faculty and students will need breakfast, lunch, dinner, fuel, supplies etc. So many of these forum comments are not constructive and lack vision. Hateful, mean, personal attacks are not effective and makes good comments lack credibility. Keep it honest and fair not personal!
Keeping it honest...

Downtown Muncie reported no economic gain for downtown businesses when Ivy Tech opened its branch. "But by many accounts, downtown businesses never saw a boom because of Ivy Tech students." - Muncie Star Press

Fuel - Using the thought students will not have to travel to Lafayette for classes, there will be less fuel consumed. Thus less state tax revenue collected which is returned back to the county and allocated to the respective taxing entities.

Supplies - Sure more paper, pens and highlighters might be purchased from Walmart.

Keeping it honest, fair and not personal...
Looking Up

Frankfort, IN

#20 Feb 16, 2013
Richard McCoy Jr wrote:
<quoted text>
Keeping it honest...
Downtown Muncie reported no economic gain for downtown businesses when Ivy Tech opened its branch. "But by many accounts, downtown businesses never saw a boom because of Ivy Tech students." - Muncie Star Press
Fuel - Using the thought students will not have to travel to Lafayette for classes, there will be less fuel consumed. Thus less state tax revenue collected which is returned back to the county and allocated to the respective taxing entities.
Supplies - Sure more paper, pens and highlighters might be purchased from Walmart.
Keeping it honest, fair and not personal...
Mr McCoy (from Indy)
Thank you for a respectful reply. I researched the Muncie Ivy Tech location as well and found multiple positive comments as well as some negative. I wonder if your research above only focused on business or the community as a whole? I can see a positive impact on a more educated community. Also, it is my understanding Clinton County will draw from Tipton and surrounding communities as well as our own.

I don't have a problem with fuel consumption going down and I think this could also mean we will purchase more fuel in our community than Lafayette now?

I realize there are two sides to every coin. Ivy Tech is a risk but a measured one. Frankfort needs to focus on growth in manufacturing, service, retail, and education. Most of our community leaders are good. Let's focus on the majority and not the minority and grow this community one step at a time.

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