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#1 Feb 13, 2012
5 “Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
To do something because someone says ‘it works’ or ‘feels right’ can often be the worst possible reason for doing it; especially if the act flies so clearly in the face of scripture. There is an obvious problem with celebrate recovery’s new latter day healing approach; it is not Biblical doctrine. If it was necessary, the historic Christian church was flawed. If CR is correct, then Rick Warren is a prophet and according to his own words you and “everyone needs recovery”. CR distorts the use of scriptures and also incorporates the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous; both of these heresies are exactly what we are warned about in God’s word. Just because the name Jesus is stamped all over this new syncretism, that wrongful branding will never make it of The Lord. Doctrine cannot be 95% good and 5% arsenic, or it would be the theological equivalent of rat poison! This means that the use the 12 steps alone pollutes everything, making it un-holy and not-fit for any Godly purpose. The Bible in its entirety is completely true and pure, celebrate recovery is spiritually poison. All the nice, warm experiences of all involved and the best intentions cannot change that truth. Those taking part in this new breed of Christianity (christianos)- meaning “follower of Christ”- need to be warned of the false teachings and these misguiding lies:
This celebrate recovery, a man made burden of works/steps is not of The Lord, nowhere in The Bible does Jesus teach such a thing. Their foundation supersedes Gods anointing Holy Spirit power and the teaching of the Bible with psychology and works. The CR faction, via their works, will always fail to accomplish what The Holy Spirit alone achieves. Everything that CR tries to accomplish is found wanting compared to the natural byproduct of The Holy Spirit alone.“The fruit of the Spirit” is caused exclusively from His anointing, a gift from God and seen only in true believers in Jesus. This true anointing cannot be worked for nor achieved by any form of works, steps, principals or anything else. Therefore, spiritual growth happens because of Gods will and power, according to His grace and purpose, not the CR works/steps, lest any man should boast. This is the difference between those pretending to be a Christian and trying to act spiritual via “works and steps” or actually being a Christian and having His anointing displaying Gods “grace and power”;
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control.
The list of the fruit of the Spirit describes an emotionally balanced, psychologically stable person. Because the Holy Spirit produces this naturally, why would anyone turn to worldly psychology and CR?;
Warren’s CR program views the 12 Steps as generally compatible with Scripture yet seeks out verses that appear to biblically reinforce each step. In doing so, however, scriptural interpretations are forced upon concepts that either have no direct relationship to the Bible or that pervert the true interpretation of the scripture intended to support the particular step. CR’s attempt to use some of “the Sermon on the Mount” known as the Beatitudes as biblical principles for overcoming habitual sins, for example, is a serious distortion of the Word of God. Search as you may, you’ll find no commentaries that even hint at such a use of the Beatitudes. Why? Simply because the Beatitudes all have to do with seeking the “Millennial” Kingdom of God and His blessings regarding the future tense and absolutely nothing to do with solving an individual’s so-called addictions.
“So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
In His Grip!
Brian D. Kercheval
#5 Mar 8, 2012
#6 Mar 19, 2012
Stick a sock in it, Bible Thumper.
#7 Mar 19, 2012
Thank you very much for your accurate and truthful observation. Your comment is welcome and I consider it an honor to be noted as one who quotes the Bible.
My Lord Jesus did frequently, that's where I got it from.
In His Grip!
Brian D. Kercheval
#9 Jun 18, 2012
Whose steps are you following? Pick one!
a) Wilson and Smith
b) Baker and Warren
c) Jesus: To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in HIS STEPS. 1Pe 2:21
Everyone has a choice. Now is a good time to make the right one.
Below is an excerpt from "Recovery Awareness"
Because of first hand witness regarding the influence and relevance of recovery syncretism, my intention is to convey accurate Biblical truth and perspective through an economy of non-inclusive overviews and thoughts. My sole objective is to point to Jesus and His teachings as stated in the Bible while encouraging each reader to study God's word with the guidance from the Holy Spirit. Many of the writings posted are from well-studied authors that sustain my highest recommendation.
#10 Mar 26, 2017
I am sorry you feel that way but I have a question for you? Have you ever experienced addiction? CR has nothing but Scripture to back it up. Many people that are in their addiction do not want to read the Word of God because of shame and guilt. I do not understand why you are saying he is a prophet...does that make people like John Piper or Billy Graham prophets too? The Word of God is definitely all we need but for people who are stuck in their addiction they won't even know where to begin.
#11 Mar 26, 2017
Also, I want to a church that basically had the same view as you did. And I often left there with the wrong view of the Lord because I wasn't healed by just reading Scripture. Before you attempt to remove the sawdust out of ones eye have you yet to remove your log in your eye? What have you done to help an addict other than condemn a ministry that has helped bring people back to their Creator?
#12 Aug 4, 2017
Jerry Thomas "Why do we have to make a choice? I found GOD in AA. I am only sober because of HIS GRACE! My path to HIM was thru AA."
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