Bellingham approves red-light cameras

Bellingham approves red-light cameras

There are 8 comments on the KOMO-TV Seattle story from Nov 24, 2010, titled Bellingham approves red-light cameras. In it, KOMO-TV Seattle reports that:

After deciding to forego a previously scheduled public hearing, the Bellingham City Council voted 6-1 on Monday to install red-light cameras at five intersections and speed-monitoring cameras in two school zones, including one in the block where a toddler was killed Sept.

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DukeofWanaque

Bellingham, WA

#1 Nov 24, 2010
Too bad - rush for money. The citizens of Bellingham deserve the right to be heard. When the elite elected decide that the public really do no like this they will not hold hearings. This will become as our current federal government - they will become the problem rather than the solution. Too bad really...
Bruce Deile

Baring, WA

#2 Nov 27, 2010
Listen to Melissa Brulotte testimony during Nov. 22 City Council meeting during public comment. Melissa described her two year old daughter, Anna, being run over and killed while they were crossing the street in a school zone with flashing lights.

You can pull the video up online by going to Bellingham City Council website.

Brulotte described how the teenager who ran over her daughter made a decision to speed knowing the chances of getting a ticket would be slim. But wouldn't have had she known there would be a 100% chance of being fined through traffic cameras (had they been there).
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#3 Nov 28, 2010
Melissa Brulotte speaks at 58 minutes in the Nov. 22 City Council video.

Her description of the accident is graphic. Hard to imagine retelling it two months after it occurred without breaking down publicly. There are different stages of grief though; sometimes emotions are expressed while at other times emotions might be suppressed or there is a mode of acceptance regarding the horrific trauma involved.

I was laughing at a relatives funeral years ago, telling family members they would have wanted us to laugh and not cry; weeks later I broke down in tears overcome with grief.
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#4 Nov 28, 2010
From KOMO link above:

...."Seattle program shows cameras decreasing most violations

Seattle began with a pilot program using four red-light cameras and two speed cameras, according to Seattle Police Strategic Advisor Mike Quinn.

Quinn said that the year-long pilot program resulted in a significant reduction in traffic violations and accidents, so the city bought an additional 24 cameras to be placed at 19 intersections."

That is the logical concusion to be made even though those in opposition claim it doesn't.
When people know they will most likely be fined for disregarding the speed limit in a school zone they will change their behavior. When they think chances are on their side (without the cameras and speeding violatins less enforced), they'll take advantage and ignore the law.
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#5 Nov 28, 2010
Also, years ago (2006?), at the Colorado Springs City Council meetings, a man began showing up carrying a rifle when speaking during public comment. It was legal then for him to do so. His point: that as a pedestrian he was tired of drivers threatening to run him over in crosswalks so he was using the open carry law to serve as a warning. The City Council passed a law banning firearms in City Hall soon after.

But it was an interesting statement. The foolish and drastic measures pedestrians might resort to given the increasingly dangerous intersections amongst WMD's, aka automobiles.
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#6 Nov 28, 2010
Finally, WTA requires pass holders to run their bus pass through the machine when boarding. This is a machine that tracks information. Sine the pass has a number, and that number is connected to your name when you buy the pass (and show identification--drivers license, social security papers if a disability pass, etc.), that means bus riders movements are being tracked.

Since that is the greatest fear expressed by the libertarian's regarding the traffic cameras--of Big Brother totalitarianism/fascism tracking people's movements through spoying on license plate numbers with the camera's--why hasn't that been opposed?

With the cameras it simply a matter of what if, with the bus it's a matter of fact.
Bruce Deile

Bellingham, WA

#7 Dec 1, 2010
At the last Whatcom County Council meeting, Nov. 23, during public comment I referred to there being 14 people speaking in opposition to the cameras as "appalling". Should explain I meant the juxtaposition of there being 14 opposed while a woman (Melissa Brulotte) lost her toddler due to a lack of enforcement of cars speeding through school zones is what was appalling (and her not receiving public support at the meeting). Not that people's opinions which differ than mine on this matter is appalling. Because actually, there is much to understand about the opposing position in that the U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world thus there is need to be concerned of increasing totalitarianism. And Tim Eyman's point about how the matter should have gone to a vote is not that objectionable. Maybe it should have.
mike

Houston, TX

#8 Jun 2, 2011
Its worth noting the girl who was killed was ran over after the car that hit her was rear ended. Its insane to ignore the huge increase in this exact type of collision at red light camera intersections. If anything red light cameras will increase the number of pedestrian hits as much as they reduce less dangerous (25mph average) right angle collisions.

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