Swedenborgians live out their beliefs

Swedenborgians live out their beliefs

There are 16 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Mar 19, 2009, titled Swedenborgians live out their beliefs. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

In the New Church, followers -- often called Swedenborgians -- believe that the writings of the 18th-century scientist and theologian Emanuel Swedenborg reveal a deeper meaning in Scripture.

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David

Kissimmee, FL

#1 Mar 19, 2009
A cult founded in Sweden in the 1700's! Be careful. Their interpretation of Scripture mandates that the New Testament must not include anything written by Paul and some others that disagree with the theology of Swedenborg. But he had "theological discussions" with Paul and other dead theologians to help him discover his views.
Beliefs in short: there is no devil/satan, but there is a Hell. At death there is no judgment but humans turn into angels, either heavenly or evil ones based on their works.
Watch out, the guy was a brilliant scientist among other things so arguments can be very convincing but only based on his philosophies.
Capt Kranky

Rockville, MD

#2 Mar 19, 2009
Sounds like a 1700's version of Scientology. I guess there are wacko's no matter what century it is.
Todd

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Mar 19, 2009
note:
Today, the General Church boasts about 5,000 members spread across 33 churches. The Swedenborgianism Church of North America with headquarters situated in Newton (a suburb of Boston) claims 37 active churches with close to 1,500 members within the United States. To date, the General Church of New Jerusalem hold the most worshippers that any of the other churches. In Great Britain, the General Conference has close to 1,500 members.

There is also the Lord's New Church, which is mainly associated with inhabitants of South Africa. However, there are about 200 members that reside within the United States. Throughout the years, they have sustained a reputation for fighting for issues of justice. In Australia and Germany, there are also about 200 to 500 members. However, the total number of Swedenborgians is believed between 25,000 and 30,000 with members living in Asia, South America, and Africa.
Todd

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Mar 19, 2009
(re: David and Kranky's comments)
Well, crazy or not.. is that not what the romans said about Christians? oh, I know, how about that long held Wiccan belief that was run under by the "true" religion?
note:
Christianity started off as a "Cult"
cult:
n.
1.
1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5.
1. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
2. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
humm, go figure
Queholoth

Annapolis, MD

#5 Mar 19, 2009
Nowadays some of the mainline denominations are riding the "new revelation" bandwagon, like the UCC's "God is still speaking" and some Lutherans saying that approving gay clergy is a new work of the spirit.

All drinking the same Kool-aid.
Patrick Rose

Suwanee, GA

#6 Mar 19, 2009
This is a truly wonderful religion! I love what Junge asks -- "But what can be more Christian than believing in Jesus Christ as God?" Jesus commands us to come to Him. He does not say we should pray to someone else "for the sake of Thy son." Traditional Christianity lost this innocent faith in Jesus many centuries ago, in my view.
Todd

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Mar 19, 2009
Re: Queholoth

By definition all religions are cults, the popular definition of a cult happens to be

A religion NOT ACKNOWLEDGED by a STATE OR Government
The church of the New Jerusalem has “ministers” registered and recognized as such in the US army, and surprise! Sweden!(Therefore can not be, by popular definition be a cult)
Hence: cult can not be applied to the Church of the New Jerusalem being that it is recognized by the governments of several countries, including the U.S.A.

I happen to be agnostic, but before you rip into an institution over 200 years old, you may want to remove the blinders and check up on the history of things.

Not sure of the quote, but I am sure bible banger will tell me…“Remove the plate from your own eye before removing the speck from your neighbors.”
marlin

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Mar 21, 2009
Oh my, Hubbard has new FLAKE competition!
Erin

Pontiac, MI

#9 Mar 21, 2009
The New Church teaches reading the Bible,getting rid of bad habits, obeying the 10 Commandments, doing your job honestly, justly and faithfully... not a lot of coolaid there, just love God above all and your neighbor as much as yourself.
Incidentaly, I've found "wackos" in every church I've ever worshiped in, and yes, the Lord expects us to to, "do them as we would have done to us" too. Go easy on your neighbor, we're all in this together!(Thanks Todd!)
marlin

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Mar 21, 2009
My goodness!
Still a wacko cult with wacko members.
With the blinders you people wear, you
may as well have been born horses.
At least then you could pull a plow and
be useful.
Jill

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Mar 21, 2009
Many people label things they do not understand or that they fear as "wacko" or "crazy". It's an easy response that requires little mental effort.
marlin

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Mar 21, 2009
I got your mental effort swinging!
Erik Synnestvedt

United States

#13 Mar 22, 2009
If you are in the Chicago area, and would like to learn more about the New Church, please feel free to stop by the Glenview New Church at 74 Park Drive in Glenview, Illinois. We would love the opportunity to meet you and show you a good time. visit us on the web at www.glenviewnewchurch.org . Cheers.
Gerda

Grantsville, MD

#14 Mar 23, 2009
If you are in the Pittsburgh area and would like to visit our church, we are at 299 LeRoi Rd, Pittsburgh PA 15208. We'd love to welcome you to our church. We have a school, too! Check us out at http://pittsburghnewchurch.org/ and http://www.pittsburghnewchurchschool.org/inde... .
We'd love to meet you.
Erin

Pontiac, MI

#15 Mar 23, 2009
reply to Marlin:
What do you believe?
Tanya South Africa

Durban, South Africa

#16 Mar 23, 2009
One of the most amazing teachings of the New Church is that the Lord's Church is everywhere. It is not just reserved for those who follow a particular faith. Anyone who lives a good life and tries to do the best that he or she can do according to his or her religion is a member of the Lord's Church and will one day find a home in heaven. The joy of actually belonging to a New Church society or group is that you get to worship and share ideas with like minded people.

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