Vote for Progress. "FOUR MORE YEARS!"

Vote for Progress. "FOUR MORE YEARS!"

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Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#1 Sep 10, 2012
President Obama may not have dazzled everyone, in his first term, but he accomplished a few great things. He captured Osama Bin Laden. He regained some respect for the United States, from the rest of the world. He managed to, at least, belay what may yet be another even "Greater Depression." He also passed some form of health care reform. This is the big one. Whether the Affordable Care Act, or "Obamacare" is a good solution or not, it's something, and President Obama did it.

Both parties seem to agree that health care is a dilemma. The problem is that neither of them will touch on the real issue, which is the cost of healthcare.

They want to keep focusing on how to fund healthcare, without dealing with the issue of runaway costs. Obama approached dealing with the cost issue, by suggesting that we have a single payer system. That is how the costs have been successfully reigned in, by other nations.

The Republican Congress would not even consider a single payer option, so we ended up with the individual mandate. Basically, the Republicans got what they had wanted for years. Now they seemingly don't like that idea, either. Probably because it was President Obama that managed to get it through.

If the Republicans win the White House this election, I doubt that they will even try to repeal the ACA. Why would they? It is basically a gift to the health and insurance industries. It is something that Republicans lobbied for in the past, also. Indeed, Mitt Romney instituted an almost identical system in Massachusetts.

President Obama claims that this gift to the insurance companies, in the form of a tax, will ultimately reduce the cost of healthcare. Somehow, I doubt it, but who am I? I am just a writer.

What is clear to me is that, if we cannot reduce the cost of healthcare, then it will remain a huge drain on our GDP. How the ACA will reduce those costs, I do not completely understand.

It seems to me, that as long as healthcare is a for-profit model, there will never be an incentive to lower costs. We have allowed the free market to control health care costs, for quite a long time. It has obviously not worked to our advantage. There simply must be a single payer system. Then again, what do I know?

President Obama may not be the greatest leader ever, but despite a deadlocked and vindictive Congress, he managed to get something done about healthcare. It may not be the ultimate solution, but he accomplished it. To me, that makes him worthy of another four years.

President Obama ascribes to the theories of Keynesian economics, for sure. As do most modern economists. To say that Mitt Romney does as well, may be a little bit of a stretch. So far, his platform falls more into the realm of Austrian economic theory.

Basically what Mitt Romney plans to do, is keep what President Obama has done, but destroy the tax base, at the same time. How will he pay for the imbalance? Not by cutting defense. Not by cutting corporate welfare. He wants to fix this imbalance by reducing aid to the poor, unemployed, underemployed, and seniors, groups whose numbers will rise substantially, under his Austrian economic plan.

Mitt Romney's plan would also transfer much of the cost of Medicare back onto Seniors, by making it a voucher system. This will drain the already beleaguered savings of seniors, by allowing it to be vacuumed up by the health and insurance industries, as costs continue to rise.

It seems to me that President Obama's plans are a move forward. Mitt Romney would definitely be several steps back. Back to where? Back to the good old days? Yes. Mitt Romney would take us back to the good old days of the early 20th Century. 70 hour work weeks. No vacation. No home ownership. No healthcare. Slave wages. Industrial waste. No Social Security. No Medicare. No unemployment benefits. No thanks.

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#2 Sep 10, 2012
I have some ocean front property I would like to sell you. It has a really nice private beach with a pier.
Ward

Mountain View, AR

#3 Sep 10, 2012
I agree, we need him another 4 years. Romney is completely out of touch with real citizens.

“Flying Spaghetti Monster”

Since: Nov 11

Stone County, Arkansas

#4 Sep 11, 2012
What we need is some magic fairy dust that can be sprinkled onto the heads of all members of the House and Senate so that they all fall in love with one another and want to actually get something accomplished for a change. Fat chance of that happening.
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#5 Sep 11, 2012
No kidding, Bra. It would also be nice if we could sprinkle some fairy dust on K Street that would make all the lobbyists want to get a real job.
Bizowner

United States

#6 Sep 11, 2012
No intelligent person would want Obama to continue this crap - Speak with any business owner, Doctors, or professional and you will see that pretty much only people who want to continue drawing Wellfare want a 2nd term -
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#7 Sep 12, 2012
That's not true at all, Bizowner. If only welfare recipients voted for Obama, he would never have gotten elected. How people do you think are on welfare? According the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services, about 8% of the total population is on some form of assistance. 1.7% get more than 50% of their income from assistance. 8% hardly constitutes a large voting block.

Since: May 12

Mountain View, AR

#8 Sep 12, 2012
Bizowner wrote:
No intelligent person would want Obama to continue this crap - Speak with any business owner, Doctors, or professional and you will see that pretty much only people who want to continue drawing Wellfare want a 2nd term -
You just got to be kidding, Right? Dow Jones stocks in 2008, the last year of GWB term, 6469. Now under Obama, 13348. My retirement stocks tells me a pretty different story. By the way I worked in and around the medical field for over 30 years and I don't know of any starving doctors.
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#9 Sep 12, 2012
It's interesting as to why someone would make such an obviously silly comment like that of Bizowner. I think that the internet can allow people to immerse themselves in content that supports what they want to believe. This can cause them to develop very skewed ideas about what is mainstream. They begin to believe that their ideas are common, when they are not.

Also, I know that one of the techniques used by the TEA party people is to troll the internet, posting comments and links, and also rating things poorly or favorably to support their cause. They believe that this creates the appearance that they are in the majority, when they are obviously not.
Goober

United States

#10 Sep 12, 2012
It seems to me that if we had an one term limit on all of congress and throw ALL lobbyist in jail it would not matter what idiot is president things would get better quick!
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#11 Sep 12, 2012
I don't think it matters that much who is president anyway, Goober. You are right about term limits, and lobbyists, I think. Maybe more than one term, but not more than two, and no lifelong pension and benefits, either.
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#12 Sep 13, 2012
It looks like President Obama is pretty much a shoe in for re-election.
Just Sayin

Mountain View, AR

#13 Sep 13, 2012
In Your Wettest Dreams
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#14 Sep 13, 2012
I can't say that I am that excited about it. I think Obama is certainly better than the alternative.
sam

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#15 Sep 13, 2012
Fried Horse wrote:
I can't say that I am that excited about it. I think Obama is certainly better than the alternative.
i think you should get a life
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#16 Sep 13, 2012
lol Is that all you have to say? Well, even still, you are wrong. lol I have a great life.
sam

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#17 Sep 13, 2012
Fried Horse wrote:
lol Is that all you have to say? Well, even still, you are wrong. lol I have a great life.
you don't have much of one or you would not be on here messing with people.
OUTLAW

Mountain View, AR

#18 Sep 13, 2012
HELL NO... You voted for him, You live with him. I would not spit in his ass if his guts were on fire.
Fried Horse

Mountain View, AR

#19 Sep 13, 2012
So Sam, what are you doing here? I would think that a man of your stature would not have time for such trivial endeavors, as Topix.

Outlaw, that is not a very Christian way to be.
Just Sayin

Mountain View, AR

#20 Sep 13, 2012
Maybe not, but it holds perfect with the Muslim beliefs

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