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tea party purist

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#73 Oct 29, 2013
mike wrote:
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My point was, it could possibly prove fraud. There is some reason he has spent millions to keep his records sealed.
I dont think theres anything silly about discussing impeachment. He has violated the constitution and his oath of office numerous times.
The problem is all of the petty issues originate from nut-job sources. When tracking claims, they either lead back to a blog with an agenda or vaporize. Once snopes.com or factcheck.org or other source verification is refused to be accepted as a valid resource for accuracy or verification, the assumption that if Fox pundits claim it, it's gotta be true.
Sara Palin and Michelle Bachmann and those that make absurd claims damage any credibility for a cause. "Death Panels". Really?? Donald Trump and his "birther" claims. Really?? The whole method is designed to impress those *not* inclined to do some homework. It works well on those that think it is a good sound bite, and run with it. What ever happened to the "swift boaters"? A Karl Rove creation that sounded good, spewed some make believe, then dissappeared quicker than they appeared. If there was any validity to them, they would still be fighting the cause. This endless string of claims will dry up as quick as the "swift boaters" if a new better cause comes along. It's the new politics of the day, it is specifically geared to impress those that want simple, fast soloution to their woes. Low calorie politics. All it needs to do is look good on the plate, nobody is gonna dig around and see it is fake. If they do, by then, it is too late.
mike

Seattle, WA

#74 Oct 29, 2013
tea party purist wrote:
<quoted text>The problem is all of the petty issues originate from nut-job sources. When tracking claims, they either lead back to a blog with an agenda or vaporize. Once snopes.com or factcheck.org or other source verification is refused to be accepted as a valid resource for accuracy or verification, the assumption that if Fox pundits claim it, it's gotta be true.
Sara Palin and Michelle Bachmann and those that make absurd claims damage any credibility for a cause. "Death Panels". Really?? Donald Trump and his "birther" claims. Really?? The whole method is designed to impress those *not* inclined to do some homework. It works well on those that think it is a good sound bite, and run with it. What ever happened to the "swift boaters"? A Karl Rove creation that sounded good, spewed some make believe, then dissappeared quicker than they appeared. If there was any validity to them, they would still be fighting the cause. This endless string of claims will dry up as quick as the "swift boaters" if a new better cause comes along. It's the new politics of the day, it is specifically geared to impress those that want simple, fast soloution to their woes. Low calorie politics. All it needs to do is look good on the plate, nobody is gonna dig around and see it is fake. If they do, by then, it is too late.
Personally i do not consider violating the constitution a "petty issue".
The fact that he has violated it is not from some blog or tea party nutjob. Its incontrovertible. Its in his policies. Its in the laws he passes then changes without congressional approval.
Im pretty sure every major news outlet has reported on it. Its facts.
Im not sure what news you watch or what you base your opinions on, but you're certainly entitled to them.
tea party purist

United States

#75 Oct 29, 2013
mike wrote:
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Personally i do not consider violating the constitution a "petty issue".
The fact that he has violated it is not from some blog or tea party nutjob. Its incontrovertible. Its in his policies. Its in the laws he passes then changes without congressional approval.
Im pretty sure every major news outlet has reported on it. Its facts.
Im not sure what news you watch or what you base your opinions on, but you're certainly entitled to them.
My point is if the president was truly guilty of any of the accusations that have come forth so far, our process of committee hearings, impeachment and censure would take place. Or, the supreme court would get involved. That hasn't happened. Most legislators are fully aware how to get votes but not push a action to ultimately lose when tied up in hearings that could exonerate the accused and embarass the accuser. He has enough detractors that if they really thought they could make it stick, they would. They haven't and that's politics. Pure and simple. I know that since Kennedy, all administrations have had to endure detractors that hate the very fact that a election was lost and attempt to undermine the gains a victor might make. Nixon is the only one brought down. Even Clinton survived. That's nothing new. What is unprecedeted is since the invention of the internet, more b/s has been spread, without responsibility of content, since the invention of the printing press.The internet and it's credibility, or lack of, has a long way to go. I will trust the constitutionally established rules and processes to test the qualifications and accusations of the elected before I buy a internet driven referendum fueled by the latest foil hat to come down the pike.
mike

Seattle, WA

#76 Oct 29, 2013
tea party purist wrote:
<quoted text>My point is if the president was truly guilty of any of the accusations that have come forth so far, our process of committee hearings, impeachment and censure would take place. Or, the supreme court would get involved. That hasn't happened. Most legislators are fully aware how to get votes but not push a action to ultimately lose when tied up in hearings that could exonerate the accused and embarass the accuser. He has enough detractors that if they really thought they could make it stick, they would. They haven't and that's politics. Pure and simple. I know that since Kennedy, all administrations have had to endure detractors that hate the very fact that a election was lost and attempt to undermine the gains a victor might make. Nixon is the only one brought down. Even Clinton survived. That's nothing new. What is unprecedeted is since the invention of the internet, more b/s has been spread, without responsibility of content, since the invention of the printing press.The internet and it's credibility, or lack of, has a long way to go. I will trust the constitutionally established rules and processes to test the qualifications and accusations of the elected before I buy a internet driven referendum fueled by the latest foil hat to come down the pike.
Ok, I'm not going to go down a road of rhetoric with you. I can only assume political self interest and cowardice is the reason impeachment proceedings have not been started. But facts are still facts.
Once a law is passed, and signed by the president, it is the law of the land. Every citizen is at that point, required to follow that law. A president does not have the authority to choose parts of the law to change or to enforce. Even if its named after him. That is a violation of the constitution. Period.
Lisa

Mountain Home, AR

#78 Oct 30, 2013
Evidently, the Obama regime is out of control in using tyrannical means to fight the political opponents of the Democrat liberal regime of Obama including spying on GOP politicians and Congressmen such as Ted Cruz and the tea party members and the donors to the conservatives that were scared away. President Richard Nixon had to resign when it was discovered that he listened to Democrat politicians in Washington. Yet, the liberal media, liberal Democrat Congressmen and GOP RINOs led by John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and NY Rep. Peter King support the collection of Ted Cruz daily phone calls, daily e-mails and going after his supporters and donors like Stalin and Putin are going after the opponents of the regime and cleansing the opposition using the IRS henchmen. America fell down a steep slope of lies by the Obama regime and his liberal media that is used as cover up for Obama’s effort to destroy the GOP, tea party and their donors and take control of the House in the next elections. Obama is using the liberal media led by the NY Times to incite the GOP RINOs against the Tea party in effort to distract them from the corruption of the regime and his tyrannical means to fight its conservative opposition.
tea party purist

United States

#79 Oct 30, 2013
Lisa wrote:
Evidently, the Obama regime is out of control in using tyrannical means to fight the political opponents of the Democrat liberal regime of Obama including spying on GOP politicians and Congressmen such as Ted Cruz and the tea party members and the donors to the conservatives that were scared away. President Richard Nixon had to resign when it was discovered that he listened to Democrat politicians in Washington. Yet, the liberal media, liberal Democrat Congressmen and GOP RINOs led by John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and NY Rep. Peter King support the collection of Ted Cruz daily phone calls, daily e-mails and going after his supporters and donors like Stalin and Putin are going after the opponents of the regime and cleansing the opposition using the IRS henchmen. America fell down a steep slope of lies by the Obama regime and his liberal mpedia that is used as cover up for Obama’s effort to destroy the GOP, tea party and their donors and take control of the House in the next elections. Obama is using the liberal media led by the NY Times to incite the GOP RINOs against the Tea party in effort to distract them from the corruption of the regime and his tyrannical means to fight its conservative opposition.
Oh, so that's what happened. Spying on Cruz. Really? Calling his republican partners rino's because they see a nut causing more political damage than can be repaired, is a pretty big distortion of events. That is a example of the fracturing of a party from within. Repubs can blame themselves for not being on the same page. The demo's get to take advantage of that fracture. The tea-party can be blamed for the repub's woes. Nixon resigned for lying (under oath) about covering up knowlege of a crime some nut-job supporters of his commited when trying to gain info on his political enemies. His own recorded tapes sent that meglomaniac down and exposed his crazy idea he was ordained to be, and remain, the head cheese.
It remains to be seen if the fracturing and subsequent blame game simply wounds the strength of the conservatives or if moderates within can stop the divisions from within in order to survive. Large blocks of voters are running from that party in the meantime. Blacks, hispanics, women, young people are all massive blocks of voters on the fence, most seem to be falling on the liberal side. Rather than doing things that could win over these voters, calling them 47 %ers is directly the responsibility of the repubs. Like throwing the baby out with the bath water. They make choices that continue to drive voters away. People get tired of the old white guy spin, and the old white guys can't do anything but spin.
tea party purist

United States

#80 Oct 30, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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States have tried to deal with illegal aliens only to be called racist & shut down by Federal courts .
Can you imagine what would happen if anyone, even just Blacks tried to dethrone 0blubba ?
No need to imagine, the old guard, along with the new guard repubs have tried to dethrone their opponent for six+ years now. As a result, they have managed to split their own forces into factions and likely ensured democratic dominance for the near future. As long as the states continue to make bad law, the feds will send it back. Blame bad law.

Since: Mar 12

Mountain Home, AR

#82 Oct 17, 2014
It's funny they arrest Perry in texas for abuse of power and just look at the abuse of power the Obama regime has done. What a joke we are living in a banana republic.

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