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City Should Immediately Terminate Their Contract With The Chamber Of Commerce

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Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#1 Sep 26, 2011
The City Of Mountain Grove should "Immediately Terminate" it's $11,000.00 contract with the Chamber Of Commerce because the Federal Auditors uncovered wrongs doings involving The Director Of The Chamber Of Commerce Mary Armstrong. This audit has shown that the Chamber's Director is capable and did commit wrongs doings that involved businesses in the City Of Moutain Grove. Businesses in Mountain Grove are suppose to be able to have trust in their Chamber Of Commerce to do what is right for all businesses. It shouldn't be a matter of whether a business is a member of the Chamber Of Commerce or not. Fair is fair. Right is right and just because a business doesn't want to be a member of the chamber of commerce doesn't mean they should be treated by the Director of the Chamber in the manner in which is wrong and in violation of governmental policies and also just plain disrespectful. I have been informing you readers in the past that our Chamber Of Commerce is not in goods hands with current Director Mary Armstrong and now the Federal Auditors have confirmed her wrong doings. If the Federal Government can't trust to do business with her and want her debarred from their government facility, then why would we want to do business with her? Her wrong doings effect the image and integrity of Mountain Grove. What she does in this city has a direct impact on our city, it's businesses and it's people. She has lost our trust and has proven she can't be trusted to do the right things. Our contract with the Chamber involves $11,000.00 and her friends Mayor Delbert Crewse and City Administrator Rick Outersky do not require any accountability on that money. How do we know she is spending that money according to the contract? I say any money that the city gives to organizations to do bussines with us should require accountability. It's just good business and actually it is required by law. "Termination Of The Contract With The Chamber Should Be Immediate". I personally dought if the Mayor or Administrator will call for that termination because of their close friendship with Mary Armstrong. I have told you in the past that Mary Armstrong and her husband Jerry have been following our City Administrator Rick Outersky for over 30 years. Outersky was a administrator in another town and Mary Armstrong was also a Chamber Director in that town. Jerry Armsrtong was even Outersky's high school basketball coach in another town. When the Armstrongs moved to Mountain Grove, they even moved across the street from Outersky. That's how close they are to each other. When I talked to one of the businesses that Mary Armstrong was accused of wrong doings, they told me that when Armstrong removed the Housing Authority from doing business with him, the city government suddenly stopped doing business with him as well. Who at City Hall made that decision? If proves my point that the Director Of The Chamber Of Commerce Mary Armstrong has direct ties to the city administration and that the city should terminate her contract till a new Director of the Chamber comes into office. I have seen the contract and I have seen nothing in the contract that states that employees at city hall can't do the job. City Hall employee Delores Shelton has already proven she can do the job when Mary Armstrong avoided her responsability to organize the Christmas Parade and gave that responsability to Mrs. Shelton. The fact is, in the contract we paid Mary Armstrong to do it and Mrs. Shelton actually did it. Therefore we paid Armstrong to do the job and since Shelton works for the city and probably organized it on city time, we may have paid two people to do the same job that only one did. There is no dought in my mind that management at the Housing Authority, the Chamber Of Commerce and at City Hall is in serious disarray and changes are needed and needed now!
Paul Bunts

Lawson, MO

#2 Sep 26, 2011
The contract is most likely illegal and does not conform with city/state contracts. Did the city attorney even approve/look at the contract? The Chamber as I believe has been in default for years concerning their existing past contracts. My lawyer has looked at past contracts. The Chamber is suppose to turn over ANY event income. In return they are given a fee to promote certain events. As you Kevin have reported, no event funds have been received by the City.
The city council itself can be held liable for releasing public funds without due cause. Which means wheter they knew better or not, it is their job to know better. THAT IS Y THEY HAVE A LAWYER!
Another Citizen

Mountain Grove, MO

#3 Sep 26, 2011
I apprecite the effort you are putting into this scandal. However, I feel more pressure will be nessasary to make any changes to this situation. I would reccomend a petition for the removal of this Mary Armstrong, or some other official means.
try this

Bonnots Mill, MO

#4 Sep 26, 2011
Why not turn it into atty gen office and have them investigate since they aren't doing what is recommended.
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#5 Sep 26, 2011
Alderman Kay Rogers and Alderman Vic Richards did "NOT" vote infavor of renewing the Chambers contract during a council meeting a few months ago. According to the News Journal at the time, these two alderman tried to explain their reasoning. They are the only two Alderman out of eight that came to me to reveiw what evidence I had on the Chamber and the Housing Authority. They are also the only two alderman that could clearly see that the writting of the contract was not professional and needed to be rewritten more professional and with more interest of the city in mind. They could clearly see that the contract looked like it was amatteurly written. When it came time to vote. They both voted against the contract and tried to explain why. While trying to explain, the Mayor didn't want to hear it and made little smart ass comments and was sarcastic towards the two Alderman because he knew they knew what I knew and they were voting against his friend. Neither he nor the rest of the alderman wanted to hear what those two alderman had to say and both knew they would be voted down. It didn't matter to them. They wanted it on record that they did not vote infavor of the renewal and that is how it will go down on record. These two alderman were correct, while the others now have egg on their faces for not doing their jobs correctly and at least lisening to what other alderman have to say. Those other alderman and the mayor have got their clique pretty tight at city hall and because of that their decision making is in question. Two alderman aren't going to get the changes we need done by themselves. We need new alderman that truly want the job and want to do a good job. As I said before, the four Veteran Alderman coming up for re-election this April are Kemper, Holman, Bartlett and Jones and none of these people should be re-elected. These people may be nice people, however they have shown very poor management and it appears their interest in doing a thorough job is gone.
Paul Bunts

Lawson, MO

#6 Sep 26, 2011
You can discuss this all day, but the facts remain. The contract does not conform with state/federal law regarding public funds. It really doen't matter if the council approved it or not. They are expected to know better. REPORT THEM TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR LIVE WITH IT!
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#8 Sep 27, 2011
There is another reason that I'm bringing the fact out that the city should terminate the contract with the Chamber, besides the fact that we should because the Director isn't trust worthy. I know we can't terminate the Chamber Contract. The reason I have brought this to the attention of the public is to prove my point that the Mayor and city administrator knew that the contract they wrote up between the City Of Mountain Grove and The Chamber Of Commerce is "Extremely Poorly Written" and is soley designed to protect the Director and the Chamber against any problems. It Does Not look after the best interest of the City Of Mountain Grove in any capacity. This contract was written for the benefit of the Chamber only. This contract looks like a child wrote it. We have a City Attorney. How could this contract be written so poorly? Did our City Administrator even give the contract to the city attorney to reveiw? There wasn't even accountabilty in the contract requiring the Chamber to prove how they are spending the $11,000.00 we give them each year. Without accountability how do we know if the Chamber and its Director only spent $5,000.00 of the $11,000.00 on the things we required them to do and if so, where did the other $6,000.00 go. Did it go into someone's pocket or what? Acountability would have answered that question. Mayor Delbert Crewse and City Administrator Rick Outersky knew very well that that contract was poorly written. I have been saying it. I have written about it in Facebook and Topix and two Alderman tried to tell them at a council meeting. A meeting I attended. Neither the Mayor or the Administrator wanted to hear it. They closed us down on the issue and convinced 6 of the 8 Alderman to vote in favor of the contract. Now we have a contract that has come back to bite us in the ass. We can't terminate the contract because of the way the contract is written, if we do terminate the contract we will still have to pay the Chamber the $11,000.00 and possibly face a lawsuit by the Chamber. Oh, our Mayor and City Administrator did look out for their friend at the Chamber and now the citizens of Mountain Grove have to suffer with it. Now we have to stomach a Chamber Of Commerce Director that the Federal Government doesn't even trust to do business with. I'm telling the public here and now that what I have told you all about the Chamber and its director is true and has been proven true. This current Chamber Of Commerce is not under good management and does not look out for the best interest of the people of Mountain Grove and the town. That Chamber is being run by a person who's only interest seems to be " You Scratch By Back And I'll Scratch Yours". The Federal Audit has proven that and I've been saying that all along. In another post soon to come I'm going to put the puzzle together for you on how the tight clique operates at the Chamber and how the "Scratch My Back And I'll Scratch Your Back" group is in place. When I'm done explaining this you will see exactly how the Chamber Of Commerce Director Mary Armstrong has built her empire to make sure she is not fired from the Chamber and looked after at City Hall by her friends the Mayor and City Administrator. When I show you the full puzzle you will then see the clear picture. Our Chamber is all about Money and Power, Money and Power, Money and Power. It's not being run properly and in the best interest of the people of Mountain Grove, our town and our businesses. It is being run exactly like City Hall. Just like their own little Country Club. I have proven "mismanagement" at the Housing Authority. I have proven "Mismanagement" at the Chamber Of Commerce and I have said in the past that there is "Extreme Mismanagement" at City Hall and I feel with all the information I have obtained that that will be proven also. This type of Clique, Country Club way of running our local town's government must stop. They have had many years to build it up to the mess. Now we must fix it!
Merry Heart

Cameron, MO

#9 Sep 27, 2011
Kevin Dietz wrote:
Alderman Kay Rogers and Alderman Vic Richards did "NOT" vote infavor of renewing the Chambers contract during a council meeting a few months ago. According to the News Journal at the time, these two alderman tried to explain their reasoning. They are the only two Alderman out of eight that came to me to reveiw what evidence I had on the Chamber and the Housing Authority. They are also the only two alderman that could clearly see that the writting of the contract was not professional and needed to be rewritten more professional and with more interest of the city in mind. They could clearly see that the contract looked like it was amatteurly written. When it came time to vote. They both voted against the contract and tried to explain why. While trying to explain, the Mayor didn't want to hear it and made little smart ass comments and was sarcastic towards the two Alderman because he knew they knew what I knew and they were voting against his friend. Neither he nor the rest of the alderman wanted to hear what those two alderman had to say and both knew they would be voted down. It didn't matter to them. They wanted it on record that they did not vote infavor of the renewal and that is how it will go down on record. These two alderman were correct, while the others now have egg on their faces for not doing their jobs correctly and at least lisening to what other alderman have to say. Those other alderman and the mayor have got their clique pretty tight at city hall and because of that their decision making is in question. Two alderman aren't going to get the changes we need done by themselves. We need new alderman that truly want the job and want to do a good job. As I said before, the four Veteran Alderman coming up for re-election this April are Kemper, Holman, Bartlett and Jones and none of these people should be re-elected. These people may be nice people, however they have shown very poor management and it appears their interest in doing a thorough job is gone.
These are the two aldermen in your "hip pocket" and neither can make a decision on their own. What a joke they are listening to your hatred.
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#10 Sep 27, 2011
Merry Heart wrote:
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These are the two aldermen in your "hip pocket" and neither can make a decision on their own. What a joke they are listening to your hatred.
What your saying is that the 6 alderman that lisened to the Mayor and City Administrator were correct in voting yes in favor of a childish contract that didn't look after the best interest of the people of Mountain Grove and there were supposedly 2 alderman that agreed with me and voted aganist the contract because they wanted to vote in a more inteligent manner and wanted to discuss the contract throughly before making a decision. Those 6 alderman voted in favor a contract that looks like it was written by a child and now that contract has come to bite the citizens of Mountain Grove on the ass. Just as I thought it would or could happen. The other 2 alderman voted against it because they were concerned for the interest of Mountain Grove and its people. You say I'm speaking of "hatred". There is no hatred in what information I am giving to the public. It is all proven facts! I see no hatred in wanting the best for this city and weeding out those that have done nothing but mismanage our town. Mismanagement that has been proven. How do you explain all this mismanage? Why do you concider it hatred because I expose it? I have been bashed on topix by people that hate me, or are upset that I'm exposing them and etc. and how many times did you get on them for speaking hatred against me? I can answer that! Not Once !
john

Plattsburg, MO

#12 Sep 27, 2011
have they got rid of mary out of the chamber or housing?
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#13 Sep 27, 2011
john wrote:
have they got rid of mary out of the chamber or housing?
She will be removed from the Housing Authority Board as soon as The Federal Enforcement process is completed. Removing her from the Chamber will be up to the Chamber Of Commerce Board Of Directors. DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP WITH THOSE GUYS ! These are members that were carefully placed into position. For Example: In the Federal Audit you will read where Armstrong tried to better a bid for vehicles for one company over another company. The company she tried to get a better deal for was Wehr Motors. Jim Wehr is a member of the Board Of Directors of the Chamber Of Commerce. The Chamber Company vehicle is also a vehicle that came from Wehr Motors. In another violation Armstrong removed a business relationship with one gas station to give the business to another gas station just because that gas station wasn't a chamber member. The company that got the business is the Country Mart Supermarket. The manager at the Country Mart is Ray Allen. Ray Allen is also the Vice President of the Board Of Directors at the Chamber Of Commerce and the very person that writes Mary Armstrong's paychecks. Armstrong has been following our City Administrator for over 30 years and followed him to Mountain Grove. The administrator and Armstrong are very close friends and have been for all those years. The administrator has a Bluegrass Band and the Mandolin/Vocals player in the band is the owner of Sears, Gary Sutherland. The administrator also gave that man a city job. Gary Sutherland is also a member of the Chamber Of Commerce Board Of Directors. City Government Vehicles get serviced at Super Lube. We've seen the Chamber's vehicle there at times and Housing Authority Vehicles at times. The owner of Super Lube is Jason Vandiver. Jason Vandiver is also a member of the Board Of Directors of the Chamber Of Commerce. I could go on and on about other board members, however do I need to go any further or do you get my point now? Carefully positioning your board members could be a great big plus if you want to try to keep your job if you get in a tight spot !! And to think we the taxpayers give the Chamber $11,000.00 per year and they put it in the hands of Mary Armstrong with no accountability required by the city. It's just "Unbelievable"! THE WEB JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER !
Merry Heart

Cameron, MO

#14 Sep 27, 2011
Kevin Dietz wrote:
<quoted text> She will be removed from the Housing Authority Board as soon as The Federal Enforcement process is completed. Removing her from the Chamber will be up to the Chamber Of Commerce Board Of Directors. DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP WITH THOSE GUYS ! These are members that were carefully placed into position. For Example: In the Federal Audit you will read where Armstrong tried to better a bid for vehicles for one company over another company. The company she tried to get a better deal for was Wehr Motors. Jim Wehr is a member of the Board Of Directors of the Chamber Of Commerce. The Chamber Company vehicle is also a vehicle that came from Wehr Motors. In another violation Armstrong removed a business relationship with one gas station to give the business to another gas station just because that gas station wasn't a chamber member. The company that got the business is the Country Mart Supermarket. The manager at the Country Mart is Ray Allen. Ray Allen is also the Vice President of the Board Of Directors at the Chamber Of Commerce and the very person that writes Mary Armstrong's paychecks. Armstrong has been following our City Administrator for over 30 years and followed him to Mountain Grove. The administrator and Armstrong are very close friends and have been for all those years. The administrator has a Bluegrass Band and the Mandolin/Vocals player in the band is the owner of Sears, Gary Sutherland. The administrator also gave that man a city job. Gary Sutherland is also a member of the Chamber Of Commerce Board Of Directors. City Government Vehicles get serviced at Super Lube. We've seen the Chamber's vehicle there at times and Housing Authority Vehicles at times. The owner of Super Lube is Jason Vandiver. Jason Vandiver is also a member of the Board Of Directors of the Chamber Of Commerce. I could go on and on about other board members, however do I need to go any further or do you get my point now? Carefully positioning your board members could be a great big plus if you want to try to keep your job if you get in a tight spot !! And to think we the taxpayers give the Chamber $11,000.00 per year and they put it in the hands of Mary Armstrong with no accountability required by the city. It's just "Unbelievable"! THE WEB JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER !
Thankful for these GOOD MEN who serve on the Chamber board. They have more sense in their little finger than you have in your whole body Kevin. I don't hear the constant bashing of anyone out of their mouths. By the way I don't approve of some of Mary's actions but you have gone so far overboard with your hatred of her that I would have to say I think a heck of a lot more of her than you.
question

Cameron, MO

#15 Sep 27, 2011
Merry Heart wrote:
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Thankful for these GOOD MEN who serve on the Chamber board. They have more sense in their little finger than you have in your whole body Kevin. I don't hear the constant bashing of anyone out of their mouths. By the way I don't approve of some of Mary's actions but you have gone so far overboard with your hatred of her that I would have to say I think a heck of a lot more of her than you.
To Merry----your name wouldn't happen to be spelled wrong now would it?could it possibly be spelled Mary ???????
John

Plattsburg, MO

#16 Sep 28, 2011
I am not defending Mary, but after all she is employed by the Chamber. Her job is to promote CHAMBER MEMBERS ONLY. As is common knowledge, board members are hand picked.(the board election is a joke) So why would she support non-members?
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#17 Sep 28, 2011
Merry Heart wrote:
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Thankful for these GOOD MEN who serve on the Chamber board. They have more sense in their little finger than you have in your whole body Kevin. I don't hear the constant bashing of anyone out of their mouths. By the way I don't approve of some of Mary's actions but you have gone so far overboard with your hatred of her that I would have to say I think a heck of a lot more of her than you.
Frankly I don't care what you think of me. I'm not exposing the wrong doings from City Hall, the Housing Authority and The Chamber because I want to win a popularity contest. I'm not so stupid that I don't know that I'm going to upset people. Your problem is you think I care. I don't! I'm going to expose these people and it should have been done years ago.I'm not showing hatred. I'm showing facts and when a person brings out facts that doesn't make a person look good, then some people like yourself interpret it as hatred. These things that Armstrong has done directly effect our community and the people that live here and therefore the people of Mountain Grove have a right to know what's going on. I'm not going overboard with this. As soon as I stop finding the wrong doings and finish untangeling her web, and try to get things corrected then may be things will calm down. In the meantime, as long as I keep finding the wrong doings, I'm going to expose them. You need to learn the difference between hatred and exposing. Once you learn that, you may get a different opinion. People have bashed me on topix for the last two years and have shown outright hatred towards me. How many of those people did you post to and tell them that you didn't agree with the hatred that they had shown towards me. I can answer that. NOT ONCE! I can clearly see that you are a onesided person and that's your choice, however fair is fair! By the way. Read carefully what you wrote to me. Do I sense some hatred in your post towards me. Do I sense some hypocrisy?
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#18 Sep 28, 2011
John wrote:
I am not defending Mary, but after all she is employed by the Chamber. Her job is to promote CHAMBER MEMBERS ONLY. As is common knowledge, board members are hand picked.(the board election is a joke) So why would she support non-members?
Mary Armstrong is the Director of the Chamber Of Commerce and she was the Vice Chairperson of the Housing Authority Board. Using her power as a Housing Authority Board Member to punish non-members of the Chamber by removing Housing Authority business away from them and giving it to Chamber Of Commerce members is a HUGE VIOLATION according to federal laws and it is an absolute and total Conflict Of Interest. When Mary Armstrong is representing the Housing Authority as a board member, she should put her role as Chamber Of Commerce Director aside and nothing she does as a Housing Board member should reflect her role as the Chamber Director. When she mixed the two roles together and started using one role to benefit her other role, she crossed the line and it became illegal. Myself and the Federal Government aren't saying she has to support non-members of the Chamber. She can do that all she wants "Outside Of Housing Authority Business" and she knew it. Power and greed got the best of the situation. That's the easiest way to explain it. She has lost the trust that many of the people and businesses of Mountain Grove had with her and it doesn't end there. The web just gets Bigger and Bigger !
same ole crap

Plattsburg, MO

#19 Sep 28, 2011
Speak for yourself,Mr. Dietz!! The web gets bigger just like your twisted words and lies!

good day
Mary 4 City Council

Mount Vernon, MO

#20 Sep 28, 2011
Mary is th ebest thing that has happened to the businesses of the grove....she has brought more new and bigger business to the grove than anyone. i vote mary for the city council president.
Kevin Dietz

Gower, MO

#21 Sep 28, 2011
same ole crap wrote:
Speak for yourself,Mr. Dietz!! The web gets bigger just like your twisted words and lies!
good day
I understand that those that do wrong together, stick together. It's admiralble of you. You say twisted words and lies! Tell me and prove to me of one thing I said that is a lie. I have proven everything I have said and I will prove more soon.
Mary 4 City Council

Mount Vernon, MO

#22 Sep 28, 2011
mr diets.....if the grove is soooooooo bad in your eyes, then move out and go back to where you come from....it that EASY!!!

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