do you support mandatory hysterectomy

do you support mandatory hysterectomy

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SINGLE

Blacksburg, SC

#1 Nov 24, 2012
I know a husband and wife that keep having babies, they get foodstamps to feed the children.

They have 3 sons and they want a daughter.

In my opinion, Congress should pass a law of "Mandatory Hyterectomy".

When a woman has had two children and getting government assistance the government shouldn't allow a woman to keep having babies!

Birth Control pills and shots may not work!

If the woman refuses to have a Hysterectomy, the woman needs to be arrested and charged with child neglect!

My mother has been to the home of the parents that I am refering to and she said that the house is always filthy.

Laundry not done, dishes not done, filthy.

If the mother is unable to keep the house then she is unable to care for children.

So, the government is feeding her children and the children live in filth.
On top of government assistance, her father has for years had to buy food, clothes and shelter for this family.

The mother has never worked.
Her husband works at the prison in Mtn.City, but he doesn't make enough to pay bills and buy groceries, clothing and everything else they need.

I don't know if he has insurance, they might have TENNCARE.
That means that the government is paying a lot of medical bills for the family.

When my mother told me the mother was having baby #4 and already can't afford to raise the 3 they have on their own it was one of those "fell out of my chair" moments.

They want a daughter. I ask my mother " how many children is she going to have trying to have a girl?".

What if she keeps having boys and keeps having babies trying to have a girl????!

The government needs to step in and force people like these parents to stop having babies!!
Nosy

Johnson City, TN

#2 Nov 24, 2012
SINGLE wrote:
I know a husband and wife that keep having babies, they get foodstamps to feed the children.
They have 3 sons and they want a daughter.
In my opinion, Congress should pass a law of "Mandatory Hyterectomy".
When a woman has had two children and getting government assistance the government shouldn't allow a woman to keep having babies!
Birth Control pills and shots may not work!
If the woman refuses to have a Hysterectomy, the woman needs to be arrested and charged with child neglect!
My mother has been to the home of the parents that I am refering to and she said that the house is always filthy.
Laundry not done, dishes not done, filthy.
If the mother is unable to keep the house then she is unable to care for children.
So, the government is feeding her children and the children live in filth.
On top of government assistance, her father has for years had to buy food, clothes and shelter for this family.
The mother has never worked.
Her husband works at the prison in Mtn.City, but he doesn't make enough to pay bills and buy groceries, clothing and everything else they need.
I don't know if he has insurance, they might have TENNCARE.
That means that the government is paying a lot of medical bills for the family.
When my mother told me the mother was having baby #4 and already can't afford to raise the 3 they have on their own it was one of those "fell out of my chair" moments.
They want a daughter. I ask my mother " how many children is she going to have trying to have a girl?".
What if she keeps having boys and keeps having babies trying to have a girl????!
The government needs to step in and force people like these parents to stop having babies!!
Are you one of those Republicans who believe in smaller government?
SINGLE

Blacksburg, SC

#3 Nov 24, 2012
Are you one of those people that believe Child Protective Services shouldn't be allowed to walk into a house and remove children that are being abused?
R YA SERIOUS

Johnson City, TN

#4 Nov 24, 2012
SINGLE wrote:
I know a husband and wife that keep having babies, they get foodstamps to feed the children.
They have 3 sons and they want a daughter.
In my opinion, Congress should pass a law of "Mandatory Hyterectomy".
When a woman has had two children and getting government assistance the government shouldn't allow a woman to keep having babies!
Birth Control pills and shots may not work!
If the woman refuses to have a Hysterectomy, the woman needs to be arrested and charged with child neglect!
My mother has been to the home of the parents that I am refering to and she said that the house is always filthy.
Laundry not done, dishes not done, filthy.
If the mother is unable to keep the house then she is unable to care for children.
So, the government is feeding her children and the children live in filth.
On top of government assistance, her father has for years had to buy food, clothes and shelter for this family.
The mother has never worked.
Her husband works at the prison in Mtn.City, but he doesn't make enough to pay bills and buy groceries, clothing and everything else they need.
I don't know if he has insurance, they might have TENNCARE.
That means that the government is paying a lot of medical bills for the family.
When my mother told me the mother was having baby #4 and already can't afford to raise the 3 they have on their own it was one of those "fell out of my chair" moments.
They want a daughter. I ask my mother " how many children is she going to have trying to have a girl?".
What if she keeps having boys and keeps having babies trying to have a girl????!
The government needs to step in and force people like these parents to stop having babies!!
I've worked in "professional cleaning, construction cleaning and, just plain old everyday cleaning. There are wealthy, prominent families that are so dog nasty that when ya walk into their "mansions" well, ya need to keep a mask over the nose, literally!As for the gov assistance, most of these folks, having big families, "have enough close family members that are working, paying loads of taxes, more than enough paid in to cover for their lazy relatives!
SINGLE

Blacksburg, SC

#5 Nov 24, 2012
So you two think it's just fine for people on welfare to keep having babies??

So you two think it's just fine for people that can't keep their house clean to keep having babies??

You two and people that think like you you are the reason why there are children going hungry, wearing filthy ragged clothes, not getting good good in school, I mean, it's like this, if parents can't keep the dishes washed, laundry washed and the trash took out they ARE NOT able to help their kids with their home work.
They have no chance of going to college unless the GOVERNMENT pays for it!

If there's anyone wondering why the economy of this country has been flushed down the toilet..... read the above posts.
SINGLE

Blacksburg, SC

#6 Nov 24, 2012
Grades^^^^
R YA SERIOUS

Johnson City, TN

#7 Nov 24, 2012
SINGLE wrote:
So you two think it's just fine for people on welfare to keep having babies??
So you two think it's just fine for people that can't keep their house clean to keep having babies??
You two and people that think like you you are the reason why there are children going hungry, wearing filthy ragged clothes, not getting good good in school, I mean, it's like this, if parents can't keep the dishes washed, laundry washed and the trash took out they ARE NOT able to help their kids with their home work.
They have no chance of going to college unless the GOVERNMENT pays for it!
If there's anyone wondering why the economy of this country has been flushed down the toilet..... read the above posts.
Nope! I just think that if ya take a good look around, in every flippin "country", there are the nasty, lazy good for nothings, having baby after baby, "AND WE ALL", I MEAN "ALL" LIVE ON BROTHER! Take a good long study of our census all over the world.....Even in any kind of filth, we're living, and OVER populated ALL OVER THE WORLD! And, people are living longer than EVER! Lord have mercy, the world is just full of "nasty", not gonna get rid of nasty, lazy peeps, UNDERSTAND?
hum

Jonesborough, TN

#8 Nov 24, 2012
OK if he works at the Prison they are not on Full welfare. May get Food Stamps to make up for INcome but can't be getting AFDC.And the kids may have TN care but most the time if your employer offers insurance adults cant get TN care. However not saying that if they aren't taking care of the kids they have now then no don't have anymore. I think women who have kid after kid and end up having their children taken by social services should not get to keep having kids.
tax payer

United States

#9 Nov 24, 2012
Food stamps is welfare and when someone has 3 chuldren they can't feed without help from the government they don't need to be having another child for the tax payers to have to feed.

Even if the parents don't have Tenncare 4 children can rack up a lot of medical bills for the tax payers to have to pay.

The mother DOES have Tenncare while she is pregnant to cover her medical bills including the bill at the hospital that delivers the baby and the mother gets to keep Tenncare for a certain amount of time after the baby is born.

If women will not stop having children when they can't feed them without government food stamps, yes, the government needs to put a stop to it.

Forced hysterectomy is the only way to stop it.

While the mother is still in the hospital after delivery the doctors should be able to give her a hyterectomy and if she will not allow it then give her a shot that will knock her out and take out her uterus so she can't keep having children that she can't feed.

Plus government has to pay for an apartment for the mother and children most of the time.
dude

Johnson City, TN

#10 Nov 24, 2012
tax payer wrote:
Food stamps is welfare and when someone has 3 chuldren they can't feed without help from the government they don't need to be having another child for the tax payers to have to feed.
Even if the parents don't have Tenncare 4 children can rack up a lot of medical bills for the tax payers to have to pay.
The mother DOES have Tenncare while she is pregnant to cover her medical bills including the bill at the hospital that delivers the baby and the mother gets to keep Tenncare for a certain amount of time after the baby is born.
If women will not stop having children when they can't feed them without government food stamps, yes, the government needs to put a stop to it.
Forced hysterectomy is the only way to stop it.
While the mother is still in the hospital after delivery the doctors should be able to give her a hyterectomy and if she will not allow it then give her a shot that will knock her out and take out her uterus so she can't keep having children that she can't feed.
Plus government has to pay for an apartment for the mother and children most of the time.
Uh, let's have forced vasectomies instead....cheaper operation, less chances of life threatening complications, and no more babies!

Since: Oct 11

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#11 Nov 25, 2012
SINGLE wrote:
I know a husband and wife that keep having babies, they get foodstamps to feed the children.
They have 3 sons and they want a daughter.
In my opinion, Congress should pass a law of "Mandatory Hyterectomy".
When a woman has had two children and getting government assistance the government shouldn't allow a woman to keep having babies!
Birth Control pills and shots may not work!
If the woman refuses to have a Hysterectomy, the woman needs to be arrested and charged with child neglect!
My mother has been to the home of the parents that I am refering to and she said that the house is always filthy.
Laundry not done, dishes not done, filthy.
If the mother is unable to keep the house then she is unable to care for children.
So, the government is feeding her children and the children live in filth.
On top of government assistance, her father has for years had to buy food, clothes and shelter for this family.
The mother has never worked.
Her husband works at the prison in Mtn.City, but he doesn't make enough to pay bills and buy groceries, clothing and everything else they need.
I don't know if he has insurance, they might have TENNCARE.
That means that the government is paying a lot of medical bills for the family.
When my mother told me the mother was having baby #4 and already can't afford to raise the 3 they have on their own it was one of those "fell out of my chair" moments.
They want a daughter. I ask my mother " how many children is she going to have trying to have a girl?".
What if she keeps having boys and keeps having babies trying to have a girl????!
The government needs to step in and force people like these parents to stop having babies!!
You are one of the most ignorant Posters that I've ever seen on Topix and that's saying alot, as well as one of the most cruel and sadistic! You not only want to forcible sterilize the Woman...I notice you didn't say one word about a vasectomy for the Man...but you want to rip out her uterus, fallopian tubes, and ovaries just to sterilize her! Talk about "OVERKILL"!
And BTW, Einstein, the Gov't. tried that "forcible sterilizaton" in either North or South Carolina about 50 years ago, and we're still paying off the millions of dollars to every Woman it was done to, or to her Heirs. You NAZIS better think twice about what you're asking for to be done to supposedly save you alittle money...SUPPOSEDLY...because if everything you want done, were done...your Grandchildren's Grandchildren will be paying off the Lawsuits and Financial Settlements, long after you're dead, buried, and forgotten about!
To make it even worse, I'll bet you're one of those "Pro-Lifers", too. Kill the Mother, but save that clump of cells that you call a "Baby", at all costs! You People are the worst screwed-up, in your thinking, that there's ever been in modern times, literally, not since Hitler's NAZI Party and what they did to the Jews, among other Nationalities and Religions. The German Jews weren't their only Victims!
tax payer

United States

#12 Nov 25, 2012
There is no way for government to keep up with how many babies men have.

The women are the ones that are on record, I mean, the mother is the one having the baby so she can't deny it, there's this thing called "paper work" that filled out at the hospital for proof that the mother is the mother and a Birth Certificate with the mothers name on it.

The father can skip town and noone but the mother knows who the father is, if the mother never reports the father as being the father the government has no idea how many children that father has without DNA testing.

Hysterectomys would cost the Government a lot of money but in the long run it is cheaper, if women keep having baby after baby that the Government is feeding it never stops.

1 Hysterectomy vs. Baby after baby that the Government provides food,clothes,shelter and pays medical bills for until the children are 18 years old, 1 Hysterectomy is a lot cheaper than 18 years of food,clothing,shelter and medical care.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#13 Nov 25, 2012
tax payer wrote:
There is no way for government to keep up with how many babies men have.
The women are the ones that are on record, I mean, the mother is the one having the baby so she can't deny it, there's this thing called "paper work" that filled out at the hospital for proof that the mother is the mother and a Birth Certificate with the mothers name on it.
The father can skip town and noone but the mother knows who the father is, if the mother never reports the father as being the father the government has no idea how many children that father has without DNA testing.
Hysterectomys would cost the Government a lot of money but in the long run it is cheaper, if women keep having baby after baby that the Government is feeding it never stops.
1 Hysterectomy vs. Baby after baby that the Government provides food,clothes,shelter and pays medical bills for until the children are 18 years old, 1 Hysterectomy is a lot cheaper than 18 years of food,clothing,shelter and medical care.
Well, I see that I'm going to have to draw you a map for you to understand anything I'm saying. First of all, why would you have to know how may Babies a Man has fathered, to give him a forced vasectomy to make sure he doesn't have anymore?
Second of all, why would you want to force a Woman to have a Hysterectomy, with all the Health problems that causes, instead of just burning her Tubes...let me guess, you don't have a clue what that is, right?
Third of all, it's a Moot Point because the Supreme Court has ruled forced sterilization unconstitutional and the Millions of Dollars that I referring to, were Court-Awarded Damage Settlements.
Also, didn't the Prison that is in your area, used to be called, "Brushy Mountain"? Are you seriously trying to tell us that a State Correctional Officer's job doesn't include Medical Ins. for his Family? As well as a pretty good hourly wage, if he's been there any length of time. So, all in all, I'm wondering if your Post is even meant to be taken seriously!
tax payer

United States

#14 Nov 25, 2012
Really Sassy wrote:
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Well, I see that I'm going to have to draw you a map for you to understand anything I'm saying. First of all, why would you have to know how may Babies a Man has fathered, to give him a forced vasectomy to make sure he doesn't have anymore?
Second of all, why would you want to force a Woman to have a Hysterectomy, with all the Health problems that causes, instead of just burning her Tubes...let me guess, you don't have a clue what that is, right?
let me spell this out to you.
I already explained it but you don't get it.
The Government shouldn't force men to have a vasectomy unless they have children that they can't provide for, ok here goes, the government have no way of knowing who the men are that are getiing women pregnant and then running off and not providing for the children without a DNA test.
A DNA test can't be done if the father can't be found or if the mother doesn't even know who the father is, like women that have sex with several different men and the mother has no clue which one is the father, are you getting it so far??

Now, the government can keep count of how many children women have from Birth Certificates, hospital records, if they are on welfare the government knows how mant children the mother has and how many children are getting government assistance such as TENNCARE or foodstamps or government housing.

The women is the one in the hospital delivering the baby, while the women is in the hospital for delivery, the doctor should be allowed to do a hyterectomy if the women is on welfare and has delivered beby #2.

I didn't say that mandatory hyterectomy was legal, I agree that congress shpuld pass a law that women with 2 children and on welfare shouldn't be allowed to keep having children that she can't provide for.

As far as the prison pay wage, it's probably around $10 hr.

$10 at 40 hrs a week DOES NOT pay all the house payment, medical bills, food for 4 children and 2 adults, clothes, a car payment, car insurance, electric bill, water bill, cable bill, phone bill and all the other things that people have to have.

If the father has medical insurance from work the monthly premium would take a hugh amount of his pay check, plus co pays for every doctor visit.

So $10 hr. For a family of 5 or more is on the poverty scale.
They will have to be on some kind of government assistance, if only food stamps, a family of. 5 or more would be receiving around $800 in food stamps a month.

If people wouldn't keep having children that they can't feed the tax payers wouldn't have to feed them via food stamps that's payed for by working tax payers.
If women can't be responsible and take birth control or get her tubes tied then the government should force her to.

As far as government forcing a women to get her tubes tied instead of a hyterectomy, tubes being tied can be reversed, a hyterectomy can't.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#15 Nov 25, 2012
You have it all figured out, don't you, "Chief Backwoods Know Nothing". Now , I'm going to cut you some slack and allow you to look into all the "FACTS" you expressed and change your statement, before I pick it apart point by point.
And frankly, I need some time to decide whether you or your post is even worth correcting or, if I should mark it up to the rantings of a Hillbilly Hotshot, who does well to figure out what a spoon or fork is to be used for. But forget trying to tell him which is for which, even when you feel sorry for him when you see him trying to eat soup with a fork and can't understand why he's never able get any of it to his mouth. So, he just gives up and drinks it out of the bowl...and thinks he's the Genius of the Year for figuring that out!

I would suggest Googling the difference between "tying" a Woman's tubes and "burning" them. It's NOT a new Procedure!
I would also suggest Googling the actual pay and benefits for a TN. Correctional Officer. The Starting Pay almost 20 years ago , was about what you say this Officer makes now...I doubt that highly!
But, do your Homework and get back to me, OK?

If you don't, I'll have to Snip and Clip you. I know a Urologist that did it to himself. So, how difficult could it be?:)
tax payer

United States

#16 Nov 25, 2012
He? I'm a female. A female that has not and will not bring children into this world that I can't provide for without government assistance.

I know people that work at the prison and how much they are paid.
So go ahead and tell us all how much their pay rate is according to what their job is and how often they get a raise and the amount of the raise.

No, the prison in Mtn.City,Tn. was never Brushy Mtn.
tax payer

United States

#17 Nov 25, 2012
Burning of tubes is not 100%.

A vasectomy is not 100%.

My ex husband had a vasectomy and the doctor told him that is was not 100% no chance what so ever of being able to get a woman pregnant.

Only a hyterectomy can prevent pregnancy.
tax payer

United States

#18 Nov 25, 2012
And a vesectomy can be reversed.
Justnuthergeezer

Johnson City, TN

#19 Nov 25, 2012
SINGLE wrote:
I know a husband and wife that keep having babies, they get foodstamps to feed the children.
They have 3 sons and they want a daughter.
In my opinion, Congress should pass a law of "Mandatory Hyterectomy".
When a woman has had two children and getting government assistance the government shouldn't allow a woman to keep having babies!
Birth Control pills and shots may not work!
If the woman refuses to have a Hysterectomy, the woman needs to be arrested and charged with child neglect!
My mother has been to the home of the parents that I am refering to and she said that the house is always filthy.
Laundry not done, dishes not done, filthy.
If the mother is unable to keep the house then she is unable to care for children.
So, the government is feeding her children and the children live in filth.
On top of government assistance, her father has for years had to buy food, clothes and shelter for this family.
The mother has never worked.
Her husband works at the prison in Mtn.City, but he doesn't make enough to pay bills and buy groceries, clothing and everything else they need.
I don't know if he has insurance, they might have TENNCARE.
That means that the government is paying a lot of medical bills for the family.
When my mother told me the mother was having baby #4 and already can't afford to raise the 3 they have on their own it was one of those "fell out of my chair" moments.
They want a daughter. I ask my mother " how many children is she going to have trying to have a girl?".
What if she keeps having boys and keeps having babies trying to have a girl????!
The government needs to step in and force people like these parents to stop having babies!!
Actually they have this system in place already. It is in Communist China. The governmenmt determines how many children you will be allowed to have. Oh, wait......have you run that by Ron Ramsey and the Republican controlled Tennessee congress? They may beg to differ. After all. then they could have difficulty calling President Obama a "socialist."

Since: Oct 11

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#20 Nov 26, 2012
tax payer wrote:
He? I'm a female. A female that has not and will not bring children into this world that I can't provide for without government assistance.
I know people that work at the prison and how much they are paid.
So go ahead and tell us all how much their pay rate is according to what their job is and how often they get a raise and the amount of the raise.
No, the prison in Mtn.City,Tn. was never Brushy Mtn.
Is it a State-run Prison or a CCA-run Prison?

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