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Spew

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Jan 18, 2009
 
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1.$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2.$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.h...

3.$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.h...

4.$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/0...

5.$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/0...

6.$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/0...

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/0...

8.$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt...

9.$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/0...

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have acrime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US ..

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/1...

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/de...

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm> ;

14.'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

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However,
Spew, these people perform labor that our own will not do, and they earn and spend and "grow" our economy. Even though they usually pay withholding taxes that help support our SS system, they will never collect SS themselves.
These facts and others offset some/most of the scary stats you have cut and pasted for us.

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#129
Jan 18, 2009
 
elle1 said: However,
Spew, these people perform labor that our own will not do, and they earn and spend and "grow" our economy. Even though they usually pay withholding taxes that help support our SS system, they will never collect SS themselves.
These facts and others offset some/most of the scary stats you have cut and pasted for us.

Also, people conveniently overlook the fact that some our undesirables will cross borders illegally to escape the clutches of the law. They will have to support themselves there, so how will they do it?

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Bill wrote:
Why can't you people understand that food stamp are to supplement a family income and give them more buying power for food stuff. A single person can only get up to a maxium of $70.00 a month in food stampa benefits. a couple with no kids can have very little income and get food stamps.
Food stamps are strongly supported by farmers and retail merchants. Once again without food stamps Mt City could not support three grocercy stores.
If you have been asleep for last eight years we ended welfare as it used to exist. There is a life time limit on the amount of time you can be on public assitsance. Food stamps are not considered to be public assitance. Food stamps are funded through the Dept of Agricultural. THey are not considered to be a welfare program.
Agent and MSG Sergant i dispute your allegeantaions that there is still wide spread fraud in the food stamps program. When we had the monolopy money there was fraud mainly among alcholics and drug addicts trading food stamps for cash to buy drugs.
If you want to complain about food stamps call the Dept of Agricultural where they are based. While you are at it why dont you complain about subsidies that go to large corporate farms for crop set aside and other progranms.
I think it says something about you people that you will get on here and whine about a program to improve nutrtion of children and famlies while you dont say anything aboput huge corproation rip off from the government.
Over the thrity years that i have worked in social services i have seen more documented fraud from people who have adequate funds lieing about their sitution to get something for free. If you are really poor you dont have all the energy to scheme on how to committ fraud.


I don't think AC or I "whined" about the program, I certainly don't. I do hate the cheaters taking food away from people who really need it. After all the Topic is "food stamp fraud"
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elle1 wrote:
However,
Spew, these people perform labor that our own will not do, and they earn and spend and "grow" our economy. Even though they usually pay withholding taxes that help support our SS system, they will never collect SS themselves.
These facts and others offset some/most of the scary stats you have cut and pasted for us.
Prove it then with FACTS!!! That's stupid. They are breaking the law and we are paying for them and you condone that? You friggin idiot!!! You deserve to starve!!!!
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<quoted text>Prove it then with FACTS!!! That's stupid. They are breaking the law and we are paying for them and you condone that? You friggin idiot!!! You deserve to starve!!!!
You hittin the bottle early?

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#133
Jan 18, 2009
 
Thank you MSGT. Everything I've said should indicate that I think the program is a necessary one, and should be utilized by those it can help to better themselves, but not abused to support their own bad habits. The decision to use or not to use it is a personal one.
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You hittin the bottle early?
SHUT UP BILL You angelic non-sinning judgmental jerk!!!

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Someone is on an ego trip.
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Jan 20, 2009
 
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<quoted text>I guess your ok with the bank bail outs because your money is at risk if they fold , talk about wellfare your cash is protected and you bitch about a few dollars that is giving to folks that make minnimum wage , how dare you be so judge mental , probly have more then you can use take every tax break you can get vote against the minnium wage and set in your upfront pew and judge every one else by the cloths they were , if this depression keeps up you may be on your knees for some assistance and as far as taking second job you wont quilify for the hard work or to old , so live mighty , you may be in their world soon , what would you do if it happened to you, every one deserves food to eat and to be treated with respect even you , and dont give me this piouse bs i worked hard for it so I deserve it , their are a hell of a lot of people that work hard and have nothing , and besides their wont be those second jobs , the train is leaving the station and you wont be on it
I have 1 old car that takes me to work,I do work overtime when I get the chance.I can't afford all the medicine I need because I have to pay a deductable and I had to cancel a needed test.Beer is too expensive so I drink water.I now need help but was rejected.I thank God for a few churches which provides food. It really pisses me that people get handouts when they probly have some quack docter to sign a statement to verify their so-called disability when I see them doing things that I am not even able to do.I do resent having to pay for "pleasures"for lazy-ass bums when I can't afford them myself.I have to buy soap, deodorant, and food with my "pleasure"money.

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<quoted text>I have 1 old car that takes me to work,I do work overtime when I get the chance.I can't afford all the medicine I need because I have to pay a deductable and I had to cancel a needed test.Beer is too expensive so I drink water.I now need help but was rejected.I thank God for a few churches which provides food. It really pisses me that people get handouts when they probly have some quack docter to sign a statement to verify their so-called disability when I see them doing things that I am not even able to do.I do resent having to pay for "pleasures"for lazy-ass bums when I can't afford them myself.I have to buy soap, deodorant, and food with my "pleasure"money.
I commend you for trying to be self reliant. I have seen the things you talk about too. Unfortantly we as citizens can't do a lot about the legal loopholes, crooked doctors and lawyers that seem to be able to get help for those that are really able to earn it themselves. I am all for the people that can't work due to disablities, and I am all for helping those that need temporary help to get on their feet. I am sorry you were rejected. It almost seems that sometimes the system embraces cheats. Good luck and God Bless.
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To receive food stamp benefits you have to submit a pay stub or last W2 Statment you need to document hte house hold proof of each dependent SS humbers.
You don't just go in and apply and walk away with a card. There may be less than 1% abuse of food stamp program . It is much lower than any other program. Why dont you all find something else to whine about?

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Jan 20, 2009
 
Bill wrote:
To receive food stamp benefits you have to submit a pay stub or last W2 Statment you need to document hte house hold proof of each dependent SS humbers.
You don't just go in and apply and walk away with a card. There may be less than 1% abuse of food stamp program . It is much lower than any other program. Why dont you all find something else to whine about?
I don't know who you are talking about whining but even less than 1% is unacceptable. The goal is 0% and again, this post is about food stamp fraud, not the "less than 1% food stamp fraud". I'm not saying that the govenment or it's workers are handing out stamps to anyone. Pehaps social workers do get it right 99% of the time, but we still should work to make that 100%. It's commendable though if the real rate is that high. But I would venture to bet that the less than 1% rate is calculated on the ones that are caught or the mistakes made and caught. How about the ones that present false information in order to get the food stamps? You may catch some but not all. What I'm talking about, and I guess many others here are talking about, is the illegal filing for food stamps and their resale and misuse or more simply fraud.

I said that people should be more involved and that we need a system set up in such a manner that it can be overseen not only by the government but by private citizens too. The latest finanical crisis should awaken America to the fact that we can't afford to turn our heads or not care where and how our money is spent. We are all responsible to see that our tax dollars are put to the very best use possible. Finding and reporting fraud, waste and abuse are the building blocks of responsible citizenship and in the case of food stamps will help to ensure that the ones that really need the assistance will hopefully get even more than they do now by eliminating fraud!
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I don't know who you are talking about whining but even less than 1% is unacceptable. The goal is 0% and again, this post is about food stamp fraud, not the "less than 1% food stamp fraud". I'm not saying that the govenment or it's workers are handing out stamps to anyone. Pehaps social workers do get it right 99% of the time, but we still should work to make that 100%. It's commendable though if the real rate is that high. But I would venture to bet that the less than 1% rate is calculated on the ones that are caught or the mistakes made and caught. How about the ones that present false information in order to get the food stamps? You may catch some but not all. What I'm talking about, and I guess many others here are talking about, is the illegal filing for food stamps and their resale and misuse or more simply fraud.
I said that people should be more involved and that we need a system set up in such a manner that it can be overseen not only by the government but by private citizens too. The latest finanical crisis should awaken America to the fact that we can't afford to turn our heads or not care where and how our money is spent. We are all responsible to see that our tax dollars are put to the very best use possible. Finding and reporting fraud, waste and abuse are the building blocks of responsible citizenship and in the case of food stamps will help to ensure that the ones that really need the assistance will hopefully get even more than they do now by eliminating fraud!
I see people all the time staNDING ALONG STREETS WITH SIGNS WILL WORK FOR FOOD. How many have you stopped and offered work to?
Most of the people who get food assitance are working people. You want them to crawl in on their bellies and kiss your feet and beg you for food?
The whole idea is not welfare it is food assistance it benfits retail merchants and farmers. It has wide support with the Chamber of Commerrce.
Many people just want to feel like they can Lord it over other people.
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I see people all the time staNDING ALONG STREETS WITH SIGNS WILL WORK FOR FOOD. How many have you stopped and offered work to?
Most of the people who get food assitance are working people. You want them to crawl in on their bellies and kiss your feet and beg you for food?
The whole idea is not welfare it is food assistance it benfits retail merchants and farmers. It has wide support with the Chamber of Commerrce.
Many people just want to feel like they can Lord it over other people.
You must be one of the dumbest idiots on this site!!

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Bill wrote:
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I see people all the time staNDING ALONG STREETS WITH SIGNS WILL WORK FOR FOOD. How many have you stopped and offered work to?
Most of the people who get food assitance are working people. You want them to crawl in on their bellies and kiss your feet and beg you for food?
The whole idea is not welfare it is food assistance it benfits retail merchants and farmers. It has wide support with the Chamber of Commerrce.
Many people just want to feel like they can Lord it over other people.
Will you ever get the point? I am not against assistance to those in need. I am for catching the crooks that steal from those in need. Geez.

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Bill wrote:
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I see people all the time staNDING ALONG STREETS WITH SIGNS WILL WORK FOR FOOD. How many have you stopped and offered work to?
Most of the people who get food assitance are working people. You want them to crawl in on their bellies and kiss your feet and beg you for food?
The whole idea is not welfare it is food assistance it benfits retail merchants and farmers. It has wide support with the Chamber of Commerrce.
Many people just want to feel like they can Lord it over other people.
By seemingly ignoring the point, and insulting people who are looking for fraud, it's as if you are taking a stance for the people cheating the system!
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Jan 20, 2009
 
RetiredMSCT,
We all need a little relaxed, feel-good time, and I would bet that today's events didn't fill the bill for you.
Would a good tv movie with a cup of cocoa allow you to relax and forget about potential fraud for a couple of hours?

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Jan 20, 2009
 
HOWEVER wrote:
RetiredMSCT,
We all need a little relaxed, feel-good time, and I would bet that today's events didn't fill the bill for you.
Would a good tv movie with a cup of cocoa allow you to relax and forget about potential fraud for a couple of hours?
Then you would loose your bet. Obama mentioned the fact that we all need to take an active part in our government. I have my time for relaxing, but thanks for being concerned.
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Jan 21, 2009
 
Bill wrote:
To receive food stamp benefits you have to submit a pay stub or last W2 Statment you need to document hte house hold proof of each dependent SS humbers.
You don't just go in and apply and walk away with a card. There may be less than 1% abuse of food stamp program . It is much lower than any other program. Why dont you all find something else to whine about?
You must be one of those people I am helping to support since YOU know so much.I HAVE applied and gotton an appointment and was rejected because I make too much and I have access to insurance where I work and my bills count only for a certain percent.If people don't work,try,or put out a garden, they should not eat unless they are children or truly disabled.

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